Dalembert

zapatasblood · Post #1 » by **zapatasblood** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:24 pm

I think the Rockets should try and work a three way deal with our favorite trade partners the Kings. I have no ideas really but do any of you have any?

Aaron Brooks · Post #2 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:26 pm

I can see a Dalembert deal happening around the trade deadline, Sac will start him for half a season while Cousins gets accustomed to the NBA game, no point in them trading him during the summer.

College Boy · Post #3 » by **College Boy** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:11 pm

The kings have a very impressive big man rotation with Landry, Thompson, Cousins, and Dalembert. I'm thinking Whiteside will be like a DeAndre Jordan type guy, so I'm not going to count him quite yet.

zapatasblood · Post #4 » by **zapatasblood** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:44 pm

College Boy wrote:The kings have a very impressive big man rotation with Landry, Thompson, Cousins, and Dalembert. I'm thinking Whiteside will be like a DeAndre Jordan type guy, so I'm not going to count him quite yet.

And that is why I think we could do something to get a Dalembert. The Kings are a young team with and even younger talented front court and Dalembert will go to waste. We just need to find the third team that can help us out in this process.

College Boy · Post #5 » by **College Boy** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:49 pm

Yeah I'm really not sure why they decided to acquire him with so many promising bigs, and especially at his price. Is he an expiring?

rocketsballin · Post #6 » by **rocketsballin** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:53 pm

he'd be the best backup center. i always try to draft him in nba2k. he's a prototype, he needs to be on a good playoff team at the very least

rocketsballin · Post #7 » by **rocketsballin** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:54 pm

College Boy wrote:Yeah I'm really not sure why they decided to acquire him with so many promising bigs, and especially at his price. Is he an expiring?

ya he's a free agent in 2011, $12.2M this season

zapatasblood · Post #8 » by **zapatasblood** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:55 pm

Yes he is and Kings are a promising team that needs help in the backcourt.

zapatasblood · Post #9 » by **zapatasblood** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:14 pm

Houston gets
Dalembert

Kings
Hamilton
2nd pick from the Rockets
3.1 TPE from the Rockets

Pistons
Jeffries
F. Garica
David Anderson
2nd second round pick that the Rockets got from the Clippers

Rendezvous · Post #10 » by **Rendezvous** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:06 am

roxfashoballin wrote:
College Boy wrote:Yeah I'm really not sure why they decided to acquire him with so many promising bigs, and especially at his price. Is he an expiring?

ya he's a free agent in 2011, $12.2M this season

You forgot the trade kicker. I think his salary this year is around 15 million.

rocketsballin · Post #11 » by **rocketsballin** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:19 am

well then 3 way trade it is

. morey best gets to steppin on this

Aaron Brooks · Post #12 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:21 am

Why would the Kings want Hamilton?

zapatasblood · Post #13 » by **zapatasblood** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:39 am

Aaron Brooks wrote:Why would the Kings want Hamilton?

They have a weak backcourt and a big frontcourt. They need some one that can spread the floor and shoot a mid range shot. Hamilton works well with bigs and screens and would give them a good option and plays good defense. If you look at their roster you can see that it is very young and nobody knows how to win in the NBA other then Landry. Hamilton would of course give them veteran presents and veteran leadership.

Aaron Brooks · Post #14 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:40 am

Hamilton is 32, by the time the Kings are contenders, he'll be on his last legs (if he isn't already) why take on his toxic contract now? Veteran leadership can be had for a much cheaper price. They need a PG that can play off of Evans more, because while Evans can play the point, they don't want him chasing around PGs on defense especially with the emergence of fast PGs (Brooks, Lawson, Rose, Paul, Collison, Westbrook, Parker, etc)

zapatasblood · Post #15 » by **zapatasblood** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:06 am

True on them not being contenders but don't count them out of making the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed. 32 is not the age were basketball athletes are on their last legs. He has 4 years of being a good player in the NBA. His game is not based off athleticism but rather motion and screens. Would you consider Kobe being on his last legs, he may be 31 but he has played 3 more years. Dirk is the same age. Evans is a point guard and is still as kid so keeping up with those type of players is not a challenge for him now. Long, athletic, and fast is what Evens is and why he was drafted to play the 1. If they are in need of a PG why haven't I seen their team looking into the PGs out there. I have only seen them looking shooting guards, small forwards, and combo guards. Hamilton contract is not toxic only 2 years left and last year is not fully guaranteed.

Okay with that said I am throwing things out there because Dalembert is someone we need, Kings need some like Hamilton, and Detroit needs to shed salary. If there is something else out there that can make the money work then I would like to know

Aaron Brooks · Post #16 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:16 am

zapatasblood wrote:True on them not being contenders but don't count them out of making the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed. 32 is not the age were basketball athletes are on their last legs. He has 4 years of being a good player in the NBA. His game is not based off athleticism but rather motion and screens. Would you consider Kobe being on his last legs, he may be 31 but he has played 3 more years. Dirk is the same age. Evans is a point guard and is still as kid so keeping up with those type of players is not a challenge for him now. Long, athletic, and fast is what Evens is and why he was drafted to play the 1. If they are in need of a PG why haven't I seen their team looking into the PGs out there. I have only seen them looking shooting guards, small forwards, and combo guards. Hamilton contract is not toxic only 2 years left and last year is not fully guaranteed.

Okay with that said I am throwing things out there because Dalembert is someone we need, Kings need some like Hamilton, and Detroit needs to shed salary. If there is something else out there that can make the money work then I would like to know

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Kings fans discussing the type of guards they need, most of them named are PGs that can shoot, then theres the occasional SG mentioned because Evans needs a backup, They are set at the 3 with Donte Greene And Omri Casspi, The played him at the 1 because Martin was the SG for half the year and Udrih is inconsistent.

zapatasblood · Post #17 » by **zapatasblood** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:34 am

I see names at the need for PG, SF, and SG but that is the fans talking not the front office. Front office is looking into and talk to players like T-Mac and Randy Foyle but nothing about Steve Blake, Derrick Fisher, Kyle Lowry (the best PG in free agency), and Jordan Farmar.

M4P · Post #18 » by **M4P** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:45 am

zapatasblood wrote:I see names at the need for PG, SF, and SG but that is the fans talking not the front office. Front office is looking into and talk to players like T-Mac and Randy Foyle but nothing about Steve Blake, Derrick Fisher, Kyle Lowry (the best PG in free agency), and Jordan Farmar.

Blake, Fisher, and Farmar are all signed or going to be signed. Hamilton's last year may be unguaranteed but $9M of it is.

The Kings may have drafted Evans to be a PG, but everyone here can see that he's going to be more successful at the 2.

zapatasblood · Post #19 » by **zapatasblood** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:54 am

Yeah but before they are sign but I never saw their names associated with Kings. Some of them reached an agreement two weeks into free agency so they the Kings had plenty of chances to talk to them.

Kings are nowhere never going over the cap and had the money to sign a max player if any wanted to play for them. They did need Dalembert but they thought that Favors and Cousins would both be of the board so they trade for him. Hamilton will not hurt their cap and put them into the LT.

Once again are their any other ideas out with a third team? I would like to know.

M4P · Post #20 » by **M4P** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:02 am

zapatasblood wrote:Yeah but before they are sign but I never saw their names associated with Kings. Some of them reached an agreement two weeks into free agency so they the Kings had plenty of chances to talk to them.
Kings are nowhere never going over the cap and had the money to sign a max player if any wanted to play for them. They did need Dalembert but they thought that Favors and Cousins would both be of the board so they trade for him. Hamilton will not hurt their cap and put them into the LT.

That still doesn't change the fact that the Kings aren't going to be able to sign them. What are you trying to say here..? That they aren't available? That's what I just said.

Once again are their any other ideas out with a third team? I would like to know.

No maybe not, but just because you want something to happen doesn't mean other fanbases want it as well. The Kings look like they're ready to roll with Udrih at the 1 and Evans at the 2 - I doubt that they'd be willing to sacrifice the development of Evans for Rip. They're pretty much set at the 2 and are most likely looking for an upgrade at the 1.