Time to turn the Summer around

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Time to turn the Summer around 

Post#1 » by HolyToledo » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:58 am

now that Boozer is gone (not a big loss in my mind), Korver is gone (small loss) and Matthews should be allowed to go to portland or traded to a rich team like the Knicks or Nets bc he is NOT worth that type of money..

Jazz have 2 POSSIBLE moves:
(1) Play with what they got and let AK-47 expire and basically play for 2011-2012 season; or
(2) Make a gambling type trade taking on future salary while filling holes. I do this trade even though their contracts are expensive. GSW for sale and trying to get rid of big long term contracts likely do this.

AK-47, Kosta and 2 future lottery protected #1 picks for Biedrens and Monta Ellis

Jazz lineup:
PG Williams Price (Ellis plays some PG as well)
SG Ellis Brewer (sign him) Hayward
C Biedrens Memo Fess (sign him if reasonable)
PF Millsap Memo Augustine Evans
SF Miles Brewer Hayward

This is actually a better team than last year but will miss one of the players that left the team..NOT Boozer or Korver BUT AK-47 but Haywards development could ease that pain
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Re: Time to turn the Summer around 

Post#2 » by Gothapotamus » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:00 am

I would do it for the Memphis Pick... I like it all around though. Pretty solid. Keeps a very solid rotation. Not a great shooting lineup, is my only gripe.
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Re: Time to turn the Summer around 

Post#3 » by HolyToledo » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:07 am

Gothapotamus wrote:I would do it for the Memphis Pick... I like it all around though. Pretty solid. Keeps a very solid rotation. Not a great shooting lineup, is my only gripe.


To help shooting maybe go after Roger mason instead of Brewer but outside would be below average but Biedrens shot blocking and Memos shooting off the bench plus ellis ability to create his own shot makes the Jazz a tough out in the playoffs
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Re: Time to turn the Summer around 

Post#4 » by StocktonShorts » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:10 am

No way the Jazz trade for Ellis. He just doesn't fit the Jazz's system at all and he'd overlap way too much with Deron. I can't see either one of them being very happy playing together.

On top of all that I don't think Ellis is a winning player. He gets his but I don't think he contributes much to a team's overall success.
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Re: Time to turn the Summer around 

Post#5 » by HolyToledo » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:17 am

I see your point but I dont think the Jazz can get Biedrens without taking on Ellis. Offensively would not be a problem as DWILL always has the ball. Defensively Ellis is to short to guard some taller guard but DWILL can switch over to them.

Its a definite gamble but I dont like the alternative of waiting for 2011-2012 to put a team togther or otherwise patchwork a team together by adding fillers to the bench and over-paying for matthews.
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Re: Time to turn the Summer around 

Post#6 » by CAE15 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:26 am

30+ million in the starting backcourt? HELL NO. Jazz don't run a bunch of ISO crap Mont IMO would be a very poor fit for the Jazz.
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Re: Time to turn the Summer around 

Post#7 » by Jig-Saw Puzzle » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:52 am

Ellis is NOT a Jazz type player. He also has a nightmare of a contract.
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Re: Time to turn the Summer around 

Post#8 » by CarrKeefe » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:25 am

State of the Jazz:
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Re: Time to turn the Summer around 

Post#9 » by maccca32 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:57 am

We the Jazz FO have 7 days to sign player/s to fill Matthews' position.

If they havent signed anyone within the next week they cant take the risk and have to match the offer sheet from Portland. Lets see what happens.

FA so far..

2/8.5M Randy Foye
3/12M Jordan Farmer
4/15M Chris Duhon
4/16M Steve Blake

2/2.5M Luther Head
3/10M Tony Allen
3/11M Dorrell Wright
3/12M Anthony Morrow
3/15M Kyle Korver
3/19M JJ Reddick
5/34M Wes Matthews

Does that look right to you?

This is who is left.
Michael Finley
Larry Hughes
Ronald Murray
Raja Bell
Rasual Butler
Shannon Brown
Ronnie Brewer
Quentin Richardson
Jerry Stackhouse
Eddie House
Tracy McGrady
Allen Iverson
Keith Bogans
Roger Mason

However I wouldnt want most those guys on my team let alone starting at the 2 for 25 mins a game. Brewer is the obvious choice as a starter. I guess I wouldnt mind Butler or House off the bench for the minimum as a 9th or 10th man.

3/8.5M? [Salary $2.60M 10-11]

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Re: Time to turn the Summer around 

Post#10 » by Neon Black » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:45 am

I forgot about McGrady! I genuinely hope the Jazz are at least talking to him. I think he'd love to play for a contender and with Williams and Millsap. I imagine right now would be the time to get him at the best value.

I also like House coming off the bench. Gives us some outside shooting back after losing KK.

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