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Post#21 » by mattfish » Fri Jul 9, 2010 5:35 pm

^ great summary madmax. the clips made all the right moves, it's unrealistic to believe that we could have signed one of the big free agents, and a lot of free agents aren't worth the inflated contracts they signed. I think we're setting up the team to be ready for the new CBA, so while these teams are struggling with balancing their salaries, the Clips will have the opportunity to snatch up some good young players in a couple years.
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Re: Foye and Gomes? Really??? 

Post#22 » by Det the Threat » Fri Jul 9, 2010 6:23 pm

Good post madmax. :thumbsup:

The only big free agent that would've made sense for us was Lebron and we all knew it would be a miracle for us to sign him.

Given how much those 2nd and 3rd tier guys are being paid right now, signing Foye and Gomes to those contracts looks pretty solid to me, even if those aren't the sexiest signings.

Though, i fear that Gomes is the guy we signed as our starting sf, cause what else is out there?
Matt Barnes might fit, but he could get the same kind of money from some of those contending teams and most likely will join one of those.
Kyle Korver is a great shooter, but the Bulls seem to go hard after him and i wouldn't want him as our starting small forward.

So we're probably better off to sign another solid FA or two(probably Sofo to back up both pf and c) to fill out our roster and to keep our financial flexibility, cause A) I expect quite some solid players being available during the season because of teams not being able to win enough and B) it's not all that bad heading into next years FA with some flexibility thanks to the new CBA and with EJ being up for a new contract.


BTW: I think this offseason is a dream for the players association, because all those owners crying about losing money will be shown all those contracts they've just handed out this summer during negotiations....
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Re: Foye and Gomes? Really??? 

Post#23 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Fri Jul 9, 2010 6:52 pm

mkwest wrote:Miller is on the Heat.

We still have somewhere between 10-12M to spend. So we do have options. I would like to see us make another signing or two in addition to Sofo and Warren, but it has to make sense. So far, it appears that the goal for Olshey is to add decent players on decent contracts. I'd rather do that than overpay like a lot of these teams are doing. I hope we're on the phone exploring trade options to teams willing to part with a SF for little in return. :D


I totally agree, I'm happy that we didn't over pay for some player that didn't deserve it. I do like the Foye signing but I'm not sure I like Gomes as our starting SF. Hopefully we can still sign someone else or make a trade.
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Post#24 » by bleedblue3303 » Fri Jul 9, 2010 7:56 pm

what is wrong with this team. They can't get out of their own way. Instead of trying to build something special. We sign two medicore players and take up cap space int he hopes to get bounced out of the first round of the playoffs. it makes no sense.
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Post#25 » by dillz » Fri Jul 9, 2010 8:35 pm

Raptors fan here

I think you guys have a solid squad, don't be so down. Yeah Gomes may have to start at SF for half a season or full season, but hey, Aminu will be a stud at SF and will get some decent minutes off the bat. Kaman is a monster, and Griffin will be a beast! I like the Clippers future.
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Post#26 » by DunknDave » Fri Jul 9, 2010 11:26 pm

Both of these signings were good for us. Gomes and Foye will provide veteran backup depth, they're not over paid. Gomes probably starts by default, at least Aminu gets to "ease" into the NBA game. Foye probably backs up Baron and EJ, especially early in the season. As has been said, we're probably a starting caliber SF away to contend for a playoff spot. Making the playoffs, or at least competing for a spot this year would be great experience for our young core. Looking at what's left of the FA SF's, maybe R Jefferson on a 3yr deal at about $7 mil wouldn't be bad. I'd like someone young, so let's see what happens with Childress. Maybe Atlanta keeps him and may want to ship out Marvin Williams who's only 24. Our best chance at a starting SF will probably be by some team who wants to dump salary. Keeping the cap space and starting Gomes will allow us to be in play for someone like that.
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Post#27 » by The J Rocka » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:03 am

Wolves fan here, you guys are getting some class-act characters. Very good people and have positive attitudes. You guys will grow to like them. FYI don't expect Gomes to get you a lot of rebounds or assists, just scoring. Good luck.
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Post#28 » by mj_shoefanatic » Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:40 am

kombayn wrote:So I think back-up PG & starting SF is where we need to fill out the positions.


You took the words right out of my mouth.
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Post#29 » by White Buddha » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:50 pm

Has anyone stock dropped as fast as Randy Foye's in one year? Last year he was the missing piece to the Wizards getting over the hump. Was the biggest prize in a trade for a lottery pick. Just one year later, a few Clipper fans are against siging him to a small contract as a back-up. Yikes.
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Post#30 » by jgustav1 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:54 am

Clipper fans may be skeptical about signing players from bad teams like the TWolves given the recent bust signings of similar guys like Ricky Davis. Davis shot over 40% on 3's before joining the Clippers on a really poor Miami Heat team that won 15 games and they may have the same concerns about Gomes and Foye. I like Foye's deal a little better than Gomes since it is shorter and Bledsoe may be ready to take over his minutes after it expires.
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Post#31 » by bbsee1 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:07 am

After 10 years, I'm hanging up my clipper jersey and becoming just a general nba fan. Time to go back to ballboy status.


At least wait and see how Blake Griffin plays in the NBA before hanging it up. This guy has superstar potential and can be a franchise-changing type of player. If you need a reminder, just go to youtube and watch Blake Griffin highlights. If he's not, then hang it up.
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Post#32 » by PlinkingPanda » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:23 am

bbsee1 wrote:
After 10 years, I'm hanging up my clipper jersey and becoming just a general nba fan. Time to go back to ballboy status.


At least wait and see how Blake Griffin plays in the NBA before hanging it up. This guy has superstar potential and can be a franchise-changing type of player. If you need a reminder, just go to youtube and watch Blake Griffin highlights. If he's not, then hang it up.


I find it to be ridiculous to not wait till at least mid-season. This is a practically a new team outside of the Dunleavy era. Only 5 players remain from last year's team, and it's the core that's staying intact.

But whatever. Carry on.
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Post#33 » by Sofia » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:05 am

Yeah that's real disappointing. 4life?
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Post#34 » by JJ LoDuca » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:17 am

Pandam00nium wrote:
bbsee1 wrote:
After 10 years, I'm hanging up my clipper jersey and becoming just a general nba fan. Time to go back to ballboy status.


At least wait and see how Blake Griffin plays in the NBA before hanging it up. This guy has superstar potential and can be a franchise-changing type of player. If you need a reminder, just go to youtube and watch Blake Griffin highlights. If he's not, then hang it up.


I find it to be ridiculous to not wait till at least mid-season. This is a practically a new team outside of the Dunleavy era. Only 5 players remain from last year's team, and it's the core that's staying intact.

But whatever. Carry on.


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Post#35 » by supfoo » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:06 pm

i've been thinking about this and after reading all the posts here, i don't think it's all that bad long-term. the front office knows that this team isn't likely to compete for a championship right now, so they're signing young but somewhat experienced players to use as trading chips over the next few seasons. if luck would have it, one of them might turn out to be a dependable rotation player or better.

i know the clippers are constantly rebuilding, etc... but this seems like the safe and conservative approach. they struck out on james and johnson, so now they're going with a 3 to 5 year plan instead of futilely trying to win now. i like these moves given how all the pieces have fallen this off-season. it's hard to give a complete analysis because none of us truly know what other options the clippers had (was prince/deng/iguodala available? and for what price?). clippers still have a significant amount of cap space to work with as well.
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Post#36 » by illastrate » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:55 pm

clips1386 wrote:Yeah that's real disappointing. 4life?


I definitely understand 4life's frustations, as I'm sure most of you do. There's been many times when I thought about hanging up my jersey as a Clipper fan, but in the end I just couldn't do it. I've come to the realization that this is my ill fate(at least until DTS passes). It's emotionally and mentally straining, but rooting for his team is one of the things I enjoy most in life.
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Post#37 » by kombayn » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:34 pm

I don't mind the moves, the Clippers need solid bench players that put up points. As long as their patient, then they'll be looking good in a couple years after they lock-up Eric Gordon & Blake Griffin to long-term deals.
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Post#38 » by funkatron101 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:08 pm

You still have Craigers, right? LA TimberClips.
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Post#39 » by PlinkingPanda » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:57 pm

funkatron101 wrote:You still have Craigers, right? LA TimberClips.


negative. No word on resigning him yet.

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