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Teams with 3+ Centers (Potential Trade Partners) 

Post#1 » by Aaron Brooks » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:49 am

After being letdown by seeing Jordan Hill not bulk up over the summer, I've decided to take a look at teams with a glut of centers that we can perhaps obtain.

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Nets
Brook Lopez
Johan Petro
Brian Zoubek (Rookie)

Knicks
Earl Barron (FA)
Eddy Curry
Jerome Jordan (Rookie)
Ronny Turiaf

76ers
Francisco Elson (FA)
Spencer Hawes
Jason Smith

Raptors
Solomon Alibi (Rookie)
Rasho Nesterovic (FA)
Patrick O'Bryant (FA)

Bulls
Joakim Noah
Omer Asik
Brad Miller (FA)

Pistons
Kwame Brown (FA)
Ben Wallace
Greg Monroe (Rookie)

Pacers
Jeff Foster
Roy Hibbert
Solomon Jones

Bucks
Andrew Bogut
Kurt Thomas (FA)
Primo Brezec

Hawks
Al Horford
Zaza Pachulia
Jason Collins (FA)
Randolph Morris (FA)

Bobcats
Tyson Chandler
DeSagna Diop
Alexis Ajinca
Nazr Mohammed
Theo Ratliff (FA)

Heat
Jamal Magloire (FA)
Joel Anthony (FA)
Dexter Pittman (Rookie)

Magic
Dwight Howard
Marcin Gortat
Adonal Foyle
Daniel Orton (Rookie)

Grizzlies
Marc Gasol
Hasheem Thabeet
Hamed Haddadi
Steven Hunter (FA)

Hornets
Emeka Okafor
Sean Marks (FA)
Aaron Gray (FA)

Spurs
Tim Duncan
Antonio McDyess
Ian Mahinmi (FA)
Ryan Richards (Rights)
Tiago Splitter (Rookie)

Warriors
Andris Biedrins
Chris Hunter (FA)
Dan Gadzuric

Suns
Robin Lopez
Jarron Collins (FA)
Channing Frye
Dwayne Jones

Kings
Demarcus Cousins (Rookie)
Samuel Dalembert
Hassan Whiteside (Rookie)

Timberwolves
Darko Milicic
Al Jefferson
Ryan Hollins
Nikola Pekovic (Rookie)

Thunder
Nick Collison
Cole Aldrich (Rookie)
Nenad Kristic
Byron Mullens
Etan Thomas (FA)

Trailblazers
Greg Oden
Marcus Camby
Joel Pryzbilla

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Re: Teams with 3+ Centers (Potential Trade Partners) 

Post#2 » by Aaron Brooks » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:49 am

I think we should take a look at Joel Pryzbilla, Etan Thomas, Nick Collison, Dalembert, Hasheem Thabeet, Hamed Haddadi, Brad Miller, Rasho Nesterovic, Francisco Elson, Ronny Turiaf
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Post#3 » by zapatasblood » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:55 am

Aaron Brooks wrote:I think we should take a look at Joel Pryzbilla, Etan Thomas, Nick Collison, Dalembert, Hasheem Thabeet, Hamed Haddadi, Brad Miller, Rasho Nesterovic, Francisco Elson, Ronny Turiaf

I think we should take a look at Joel Pryzbilla, Etan Thomas, Nick Collison, Dalembert, Hasheem Thabeet, Hamed Haddadi, Brad Miller
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Post#4 » by rocketsballin » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:59 am

i dunno about thomas, isnt he on the decline?
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Post#5 » by zapatasblood » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:05 am

It depends on how much he makes and how may years are left. If it is just one maybe two then i think it would be something worth looking at. It would not take anything to get him other then matching the money
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Post#6 » by M4P » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:38 am

Jerome Jordan, Hamed Haddadi, Pittman, and O'Bryant seem like realistic options that I like. I'm doubting Miami moves Pittman though.

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Post#7 » by kam_soluusar » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:16 am

I say we try for Bogut. But then again, that might just be that Aussie Bias that I have.

Whilst I'm at it, Patrick Mills is a FA this season, let's get him here to play Backup, (Although I think he would be a perfect fit for the Miami Heat. And I do mean a Perfect fit!
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Post#8 » by x- » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:29 am

No to any of those scrubs. Hill & Hayes are just fine. If Yao goes down the team won't win it all anyway. No reason to give up assets for a center. Let the young guys play.
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Post#9 » by rocketsballin » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:55 am

its not to replace yao in case he goes down. if he gets hurt again then we have to build around another super star, resign yao for asmaller contract as a backup center tho. but right now we need a backup center who can protect the paint. since yao's gonna get his minutes back slowly, someone has to man the paint. and w/ brooks, martin, and scola starting we need help on defense, yao in particular, which is why i dont mind leaving scola.
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Post#10 » by Moreyball » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:37 pm

Brad Miller, Marcin Gortat, Tyson Chandler, Emeka Okafor
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Post#11 » by TMU » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:01 pm

kam_soluusar wrote:I say we try for Bogut. But then again, that might just be that Aussie Bias that I have.

Whilst I'm at it, Patrick Mills is a FA this season, let's get him here to play Backup, (Although I think he would be a perfect fit for the Miami Heat. And I do mean a Perfect fit!


I won't be opposed to the idea of bringing Bogut to Houston, but I think his stock is at an all-time high. The Rockets will have to give up a lot to get him.

Interesting thought nonetheless.
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Post#12 » by x- » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:32 pm

roxfashoballin wrote:its not to replace yao in case he goes down. if he gets hurt again then we have to build around another super star, resign yao for asmaller contract as a backup center tho. but right now we need a backup center who can protect the paint. since yao's gonna get his minutes back slowly, someone has to man the paint. and w/ brooks, martin, and scola starting we need help on defense, yao in particular, which is why i dont mind leaving scola.


If Morey trades away his assets to aquire a backup center to Yao he won't have enough assets/flexability left to go after another superstar.

Teams don't trade away high quality centers like Bogut and even if they were to trade them you'd have give up a lot in return, which makes no sense if Yao is healthy.

Other backup centers like Brad Miller or Tyson Chandler are marginal upgrades over Hill and Hayes at best, so it'd be pretty stupid to give up valuable assets/flexability for that.

Also if you aquire another big and play him instead of young guys like Hill or Patterson, their value will go down, which is another reason to stay put and use the guys you have.
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Re: Teams with 3+ Centers (Potential Trade Partners) 

Post#13 » by PocketRockets » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:18 pm

Hill CANNOT play big mins at the 5. I don't know what you guys saw last year that would make you think he could. He can barely play backup at the 4. If we were real playoff contenders last year and teams actually played hard against us, you would see Hill get swallowed up by the playoff teams.

Also if Adelman only wants to play Yao 25 mins a game, Hill can buy us maybe 10 mins at the 5 when we run small. That leaves another 13 mins or so for Hayes? I agree we should sign another big just to help take some of the load off having to play hill and hayes so much. Especially when Yao is hurt or something. Sign only. We don't need to trade for anyone.
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Re: Teams with 3+ Centers (Potential Trade Partners) 

Post#14 » by zapatasblood » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:15 pm

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roxfashoballin wrote:its not to replace yao in case he goes down. if he gets hurt again then we have to build around another super star, resign yao for asmaller contract as a backup center tho. but right now we need a backup center who can protect the paint. since yao's gonna get his minutes back slowly, someone has to man the paint. and w/ brooks, martin, and scola starting we need help on defense, yao in particular, which is why i dont mind leaving scola.


If Morey trades away his assets to aquire a backup center to Yao he won't have enough assets/flexability left to go after another superstar.

Teams don't trade away high quality centers like Bogut and even if they were to trade them you'd have give up a lot in return, which makes no sense if Yao is healthy.

Other backup centers like Brad Miller or Tyson Chandler are marginal upgrades over Hill and Hayes at best, so it'd be pretty stupid to give up valuable assets/flexability for that.

Also if you aquire another big and play him instead of young guys like Hill or Patterson, their value will go down, which is another reason to stay put and use the guys you have.


A back up center would help this team a lot. The back up centers that we are interested in do not require us to give up a lot to bring them in and would also become a asset themselves but that depends if they are expiring. As I have heard from others Hill as been abused in the post by other bigs and at one point back down by a guard in the summer league. That is someone not ready to take solid minutes at the 5. Hayes is good but he is just to small to play big minutes at the 5 next year. Maybe the young one lose some minutes but when Yao comes back he will not be average over 25 minutes for at least the first two months and I don't think they will start Yao on back to back games.
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Post#15 » by jove9 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:16 pm

Man, centers suck in the league. Most of those guys are scrubs.

Why not try to scam Al Jefferson out of Minnesota? If anyone can do it, Morey can.
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Post#16 » by MaxRider » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:45 pm

jove9 wrote:Man, centers suck in the league. Most of those guys are scrubs.

Why not try to scam Al Jefferson out of Minnesota? If anyone can do it, Morey can.

he's on the market, but Morey not interested
he mentioned looking for rim protector
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Chandler (he tried but failed to get him) and Okafor (not sure if it's possible, maybe if we are trade them Battier)
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Post#17 » by MaxRider » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:23 pm

Chandler traded to Toronto
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Post#18 » by rocketsballin » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:09 pm

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roxfashoballin wrote:its not to replace yao in case he goes down. if he gets hurt again then we have to build around another super star, resign yao for asmaller contract as a backup center tho. but right now we need a backup center who can protect the paint. since yao's gonna get his minutes back slowly, someone has to man the paint. and w/ brooks, martin, and scola starting we need help on defense, yao in particular, which is why i dont mind leaving scola.


If Morey trades away his assets to aquire a backup center to Yao he won't have enough assets/flexability left to go after another superstar.

Teams don't trade away high quality centers like Bogut and even if they were to trade them you'd have give up a lot in return, which makes no sense if Yao is healthy.

Other backup centers like Brad Miller or Tyson Chandler are marginal upgrades over Hill and Hayes at best, so it'd be pretty stupid to give up valuable assets/flexability for that.

Also if you aquire another big and play him instead of young guys like Hill or Patterson, their value will go down, which is another reason to stay put and use the guys you have.


this is our last year to build a contender with yao as a 1/2 option, and might be shane's last season to be an elite defender. we should be in a win now mode, and since yao's gonna take some time to get back to 30mpg, we need someone who can man the paint when he's on the bench. yao also needs help on defense, with scola starting, one reason i dont mind going to another team.

if yao gets hurt again then we can give our young players more playing time and develop them, but till that happens we should be playing for a championship
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Post#19 » by wadero » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:33 pm

I say go after Thabeet it a low risk option throw them a 2nd with the option of it becoming a 1st and have him go see Hakeem for the Summer.
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Post#20 » by MaxRider » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:56 pm

wadero wrote:I say go after Thabeet it a low risk option throw them a 2nd with the option of it becoming a 1st and have him go see Hakeem for the Summer.

he's not going to see playing time under adelman

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