Diaw, Chandler to Raps; Jose, Evans out (Holly update pg 40)

[Strategist1]

The look on Larry Browns face when Jose is beaten on the first posession will be priceless

Gerrald Wallace, Stephen Jackson, and Larry Brown's reaction will be.

Except Wallace and Tyrus are great shot blockers and that would make it better, and Nazr Mohammed is a decent presence in the paint.

I do agree... Charlotte was one of the top defensive teams last year and they needed a playmaker. Jose could very well be a fit there.

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out there. Charlotte also needed a shooter, and Jose fits that criteria too.

If Jose slacks on d though, he'll hear it from his teamates in Stephen J and G.Wallace unlike his experience here. It might motivate him...

[chuckerz]

Does Diaw play SF or PF??? Didn't see a lot of the Bobcats games, but i'm pretty sure he plays PF with Gerald Wallace at SF. So if he does play PF, it'll be:

PF: Diaw/Amir/Davis(would suck that he doesn't get any playing time)

or

SF: Diaw/Derozan(he can probably shift to the SG and SF)/Weems

I like this trade if it means that Hedo is gone, but he would probably put up some monster numbers playing with Steve Nash. I think Diaw is the same as Hedo minus the jump shot so it won't be so bad. Not to mention that Diaw nearly shot 50% from the field last year.

[N1QUE24]

Can anyone care to tell me why using Banks, Evans expirings is better than using the TPE? Since the TPE only lasts for 1 year.. shouldnt we look to get rid of that first? And the expirings are much more valuable assets, no?

/clueless

[Vorticity]

I'm going to miss Jose. Damn.

As a person, for sure. Great guy, loved Toronto.

But between JJ and Jose, Jose had to go.

This.
we're going to be way more though and athletic this year.

[Undefeated]

Here's the thing. Jack had a career year last year, and he was about on par with Calderon having a bad year. Jack is a great guy, but on the court he's the very definition of mediocrity. He's never made the playoffs as a starting PG and I don't think he ever will. He makes too many bad turnovers and takes too many bad shots, and has too many bad games in general. A starting PG like that will bring the rest of the team down to his level, mediocrity.

Agreed. I have tons of respect for Jarrett as a leader, but I don't think Jarrett is going to be able to run the offense as efficient as Jose was able to do. With the players we have in DeMar, Sonny, Amir, Diaw and Kleiza, they'll be dependent on their PG to create for them. Jose developed some pretty damn good chemistry with Sonny and specifically Amir, playing the pick-n’-roll. The problem with Jarrett is that, he gets frustrated too easily which will cause the Raptors to go down with him. I remember someone from the organization said that Jarrett would often have tantrums which really caused the chemistry to wear down. Jose plays the game clam and cool, so everything goes smoothly. Jarrett goes out of control because of this reason.

[rapsrealm]

Since we're only 1 million from the tax threshold isn't it possible that Colangelo can use the TPE in a draft day deal where the expiring contracts of Chandler, Banks would offset the incoming player?

[[SJJ]]

Hmm, im just hoping our key players get minutes

Bargs 34/Chandler 14/Alabi
Amir 30/Diaw 15/Davis 3
Kleiza 26/Weems 22
Derozan 30/Barbosa10
Jack 33/Barbosa15

Im just hoping that Amir,Derozan,Weems all get around 25 minutes or over

Im hoping Ed Davis gets at least 10 minutes a game somehow too

There it is. Ed Davis at 3 mins? Garbage. Diaw getting only 15 mins? Yeah right. We need to cut some of the fat off of this team and we need a PG.

This... This is what is bothering me - PT allocation.

[bboyskinnylegs]

Can anyone care to tell me why using Banks, Evans expirings is better than using the TPE? Since the TPE only lasts for 1 year.. shouldnt we look to get rid of that first? And the expirings are much more valuable assets, no?

/clueless

because we don't add more salary that way

[Undefeated]

If Jose slacks on d though, he'll hear it from his teamates in Stephen J and G.Wallace unlike his experience here. It might motivate him...

Jose should be able to play some decent D. Back in 06-07 and 07-08, the Raptors were pretty damn decent defensively with Jose at the helm. Jose should be fine in Charlotte.

[Tenacious_C]

http://tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=327363

[kem416]

This is a great day ... and I love Calderon.
We sure up our D and get younger, save money, and filled with promise for the future.

Sounds good to me!

[tke_mark]

Hmm, im just hoping our key players get minutes

Bargs 34/Chandler 14/Alabi
Amir 30/Diaw 15/Davis 3
Kleiza 26/Weems 22
Derozan 30/Barbosa10
Jack 33/Barbosa15

Im just hoping that Amir,Derozan,Weems all get around 25 minutes or over

Im hoping Ed Davis gets at least 10 minutes a game somehow too

There it is. Ed Davis at 3 mins? Garbage. Diaw getting only 15 mins? Yeah right. We need to cut some of the fat off of this team and we need a PG.

I don't like that breakdown.

I would expect Chandler to start at C and Bargs to play the 4 with Amir being the first big off the bench.

[barrist]

stackmack

Updated Raptors/Bobcats/Phx trade: Source says expiring contract of Reggie Evans going to Charlotte w/ Calderon -- http://bit.ly/coQqte

[dagger]

If there is a further trade coming down the line it won't be Collison/Okafor. Some of you need to look at the downstream salaries and luxury tax considerations involved.

If you want one that can happen, make sure Banks the guy who goes to Charlotte, not Evans, then send Chandler and Evans to Denver for K-Mart (injured) and Lawson. No downstream tax issues there as K-Mart is a final year contract.

Jeez, that would be fantastic. Love Lawson.

Wont happen. Denver is in win now mode.

Sure it can. All of this has been reported by media.

1. Denver is desperate for bigs

2. K-Mart is coming off major surgery and may miss part of the season

3. Birdman also had surgery

4. Nene is their only healthy big (I say that with trepidation given his health record) and they would like to move him to the 4 and are offering Lawson to get a 5.

5. Chandler plus Evans for K-Mart plus Lawson is a legal trade, with no downstream tax implications for either team since all but Lawson are expiring contracts.

[mtcan]

Hmm, im just hoping our key players get minutes

Bargs 34/Chandler 14/Alabi
Amir 30/Diaw 15/Davis 3
Kleiza 26/Weems 22
Derozan 30/Barbosa10
Jack 33/Barbosa15

Im just hoping that Amir,Derozan,Weems all get around 25 minutes or over

Im hoping Ed Davis gets at least 10 minutes a game somehow too

I think it's:
Chandler 20/Amir 20/Bargs 8/Alabi (street clothes)
Bargs 27/Davis 10/Diaw 11
Weems 25/Kleiza 10/Diaw 13
DeRozan 32/Barbosa 10/Weems 6/Beli (street clothes)
Jack 35/Barbosa 13

[basketball royalty]

Can anyone care to tell me why using Banks, Evans expirings is better than using the TPE? Since the TPE only lasts for 1 year.. shouldnt we look to get rid of that first? And the expirings are much more valuable assets, no?

/clueless

For me its because we still have the TPE to make a move. This roster as is seems like a muddled mess to me.

[basketball royalty]

Hmm, im just hoping our key players get minutes

Bargs 34/Chandler 14/Alabi
Amir 30/Diaw 15/Davis 3
Kleiza 26/Weems 22
Derozan 30/Barbosa10
Jack 33/Barbosa15

Im just hoping that Amir,Derozan,Weems all get around 25 minutes or over

Im hoping Ed Davis gets at least 10 minutes a game somehow too

There it is. Ed Davis at 3 mins? Garbage. Diaw getting only 15 mins? Yeah right. We need to cut some of the fat off of this team and we need a PG.

I don't like that breakdown.

I would expect Chandler to start at C and Bargs to play the 4 with Amir being the first big off the bench.

Any way you break it down there are not enough minutes for our young guys to develop now. Especially the bigs.

[Laaazer]

BC trades Turk and Calderon probably our 2 worst defensive players and marginal offensive players and we bring in a true real C in Chandler. Wow. If infact true, very impressive.

[Rapsobsessed7]

stackmack

Updated Raptors/Bobcats/Phx trade: Source says expiring contract of Reggie Evans going to Charlotte w/ Calderon -- http://bit.ly/coQqte

and who was right? thank you.

[bonjovi0308]

If there is a further trade coming down the line it won't be Collison/Okafor. Some of you need to look at the downstream salaries and luxury tax considerations involved.

If you want one that can happen, make sure Banks the guy who goes to Charlotte, not Evans, then send Chandler and Evans to Denver for K-Mart (injured) and Lawson. No downstream tax issues there as K-Mart is a final year contract.

Why would Denver do that though? Is KMart got a season ending injury already? If not they would be losing two contributing players to their lineup.

They need bigs