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The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages

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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#41 » by Esohny » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:09 pm

garbagnani wrote:
Esohny wrote:
garbagnani wrote:Cleveland might give TPE for Al jeff straight up. Depends if they plan to rebuild or not. No rebuilding team will give TPE for Al Jeff without Rubio or flynn. If Al jeff had no injury history Minny could likely get TPE + a high draft pick for big Al. but he is damaged goods now..


al jeff + rubio for TPE and Torontos 2011 pick (almost guarenteed to be top 5, maybe even #1)[/b].


Yes, I'm sure they would...


i assuem you think this is bad value?[/quote]

Define "bad." Do you think there would be any way for us to also unload Kevin Love and Wes Johnson in the trade? Maybe you've got a vet on a long term contract we could have?

Awww, raspberries! You just traded Turkoglu (he would have been PERFECT).
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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#42 » by Krapinsky » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:13 pm

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garbagnani wrote:Cleveland might give TPE for Al jeff straight up. Depends if they plan to rebuild or not. No rebuilding team will give TPE for Al Jeff without Rubio or flynn. If Al jeff had no injury history Minny could likely get TPE + a high draft pick for big Al. but he is damaged goods now..




Define "bad." Do you think there would be any way for us to also unload Kevin Love and Wes Johnson in the trade? Maybe you've got a vet on a long term contract we could have?

Awww, raspberries! You just traded Turkoglu (he would have been PERFECT).
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Just ignore him. I tend to think the Raptors couldn't afford to take on Al Jefferson and Ruibio's cap hold with all the trades they just made. Would you guys really pay all that lux money for that? The only way it seems you would pay all that lux money is if you thought you were getting a really good deal, right?
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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#43 » by Esohny » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:18 pm

Krapinsky, quit trying to turn the guy against me. I'm just trying to unload some of our dead weight in a trade that the Raptors could stomach. I just don't know why they would have any incentive to trade for any of our players.
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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#44 » by garbagnani » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:19 pm

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Just ignore him. I tend to think the Raptors couldn't afford to take on Al Jefferson and Ruibio's cap hold with all the trades they just made. Would you guys really pay all that lux money for that? The only way it seems you would pay all that lux money is if you thought you were getting a really good deal, right?


well i know that Colangelo really covets elite pg's. THey are hard to find. I would think he would consider this for that reason (as well as fact rubio might actually stay in toronto and not flee like most american stars tend to).
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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#45 » by garbagnani » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:19 pm

Esohny wrote:Krapinsky, quit trying to turn the guy against me. I'm just trying to unload some of our dead weight in a trade that the Raptors could stomach. I just don't know why they would have any incentive to trade for any of our players.


lol. fair enough.
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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#46 » by vandyman22 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:38 pm

It appears that Minny just offered Al and Sessions to Dallas for Dampier's contract and JJ Barea. Dallas rejected the offer but reports are saying that the talks have heated back up.

My guess would be that Minny and Dallas eventually get a deal done. Minny want's Dampier's contract and Dallas doesn't want to let it go to waste. If I were Dallas I'd pull the trigger.... Jefferson and Sessions for cap relief and JJ Barea is nothing short of a "Gasol" type trade IMO.

Since Minny has Darko now a trade for massive cap relief makes sense. And God knows Dallas could use a low post scorer. I'd be surprised if a trade doesn't go down between the two teams.
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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#47 » by Neon Black » Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:55 am

Apparently the Jazz have pulled to the lead for Jefferson, probably with Boozer's TPE and future picks.

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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#48 » by Cammo101 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:19 am

Krapinsky wrote:As I posted in other threads, here is a way the OP's scenario could play out.

Step 1: Jefferson to Cavs for TPE. (Wolves fans furious!!)

Step 2 and 3: Simultaneous trades. Trade TPE for Okafor/Stoyakovic. Trade Flynn + Love + Capspace for Chris Paul.

Step 4: Trade Rubio to the highest bidder

Result:

Chris Paul/Sessions
Webster/Brewer/Ellington
Wes Johnson/Hayward
Michael Beasley/Emeka Okafor
Darko Milicic/Nikola Pekovic

+ whatever we get for Rubio!!!!

All of a sudden we're a top 4 team in the West with TONS of room to grow.

:rockon:


A) Paul would never be okay with being traded to Minny. No offense.

B) That roster is nowhere near top 4 in the West.
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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#49 » by sunsfever68 » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:20 am

Would T wolves fans like Channing Frye and Hakim Warrick for Al Jefferson?
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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#50 » by Worm Guts » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:20 am

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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#51 » by Saltine » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:22 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id ... type=story

The Utah Jazz have quickly moved into the lead to acquire Al Jefferson and were actively trying Monday night to complete a deal with Minnesota, according to NBA front-office sources.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Jazz and Timberwolves are engaged in serious discussions on a deal that would slot Jefferson's contract into the $14 million trade exception that Utah created earlier this week in its sign-and-trade deal with Carlos Boozer.

It was not immediately known what Minnesota would receive in return, but Utah can complete such a deal without sending back any players to the Wolves.

Sources have consistently said that the Wolves' main aim in shopping Jefferson in recent weeks is securing multiple future first-round picks and taking back no salary if possible.

The Dallas Mavericks were widely believed to be the most serious suitor for Jefferson in recent days, but the sides have been unable to agree on the terms of a deal.
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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#52 » by Devilzsidewalk » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:30 am

Cammo101 wrote:
A) Paul would never be okay with being traded to Minny. No offense.



what choice would he have in the matter
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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#53 » by Krapinsky » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:43 am

Cammo101 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:As I posted in other threads, here is a way the OP's scenario could play out.

Step 1: Jefferson to Cavs for TPE. (Wolves fans furious!!)

Step 2 and 3: Simultaneous trades. Trade TPE for Okafor/Stoyakovic. Trade Flynn + Love + Capspace for Chris Paul.

Step 4: Trade Rubio to the highest bidder

Result:

Chris Paul/Sessions
Webster/Brewer/Ellington
Wes Johnson/Hayward
Michael Beasley/Emeka Okafor
Darko Milicic/Nikola Pekovic

+ whatever we get for Rubio!!!!

All of a sudden we're a top 4 team in the West with TONS of room to grow.

:rockon:


A) Paul would never be okay with being traded to Minny. No offense.

B) That roster is nowhere near top 4 in the West.


Thanks for TROLLING. Had you been in on the conversation and not a TROLL to this forum, you would have realized that it was a false example of how I thought we could use a TPE. However, you being a TROLL and not a regular poster on this forum probably prevented you from realizing that. Furthermore, in your TROLLING, one thing you did not gather while TROLLING over this post and the depth chart therein is that additionally we would also be able to add a significant piece in a Rubio trade. This piece is not reflected in the depth chart above, and thus had you not been merely TROLLING you could have just used your imagination in the endless possibilities of what a Rubio trade could bring. Hence, the top 4 in the West reference.
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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#54 » by 4ho5ive » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:12 am

sunsfever68 wrote:Would T wolves fans like Channing Frye and Hakim Warrick for Al Jefferson?


2 guys that are older and who combined could barely match Jefferson's production in a year he spent recovering from an injury. Sign me up.
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Re: The likely Jefferson trade outcome...and its advantages 

Post#55 » by 4ho5ive » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:15 am

Krapinsky wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:As I posted in other threads, here is a way the OP's scenario could play out.

Step 1: Jefferson to Cavs for TPE. (Wolves fans furious!!)

Step 2 and 3: Simultaneous trades. Trade TPE for Okafor/Stoyakovic. Trade Flynn + Love + Capspace for Chris Paul.

Step 4: Trade Rubio to the highest bidder

Result:

Chris Paul/Sessions
Webster/Brewer/Ellington
Wes Johnson/Hayward
Michael Beasley/Emeka Okafor
Darko Milicic/Nikola Pekovic

+ whatever we get for Rubio!!!!

All of a sudden we're a top 4 team in the West with TONS of room to grow.

:rockon:


A) Paul would never be okay with being traded to Minny. No offense.

B) That roster is nowhere near top 4 in the West.


Thanks for TROLLING. Had you been in on the conversation and not a TROLL to this forum, you would have realized that it was a false example of how I thought we could use a TPE. However, you being a TROLL and not a regular poster on this forum probably prevented you from realizing that. Furthermore, in your TROLLING, one thing you did not gather while TROLLING over this post and the depth chart therein is that additionally we would also be able to add a significant piece in a Rubio trade. This piece is not reflected in the depth chart above, and thus had you not been merely TROLLING you could have just used your imagination in the endless possibilities of what a Rubio trade could bring. Hence, the top 4 in the West reference.


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