Al Jefferson to Jazz for 2 1st round picks and a TPE

[Wingman]

1. Jonny Flynn over Steph Curry (or any of the other superior PGs in the draft class)

2. Babbit and Gomes for Martell Webster

3. Passing on all the centers in this year's draft because he's all in on Darko.

4. Drafting Flynn and Rubio and somehow thinking that they can be a functional backcourt.

5. passing on the number 10 pick for Flynn after he had a full year to realize his mistake

6. Trading Ty Lawson for a future 1st that ends up becoming (along with Gomes) Martell Webster

7. Spending a year lowering Jefferson's value, then dumping him for first rounders

1 and 4 contradict each other, Ricky wouldn't be able to play with Curry or Jennings either. Plus the fact that Curry wanted no part in coming to Minnesota. 3 and 7 are terrible takes, Jefferson lowered his own value by playing like garbage and getting that DUI that everybody seems to have forgotten. I keep hearing "model citizen" but DUI is worse than most NBA players with bad raps have on their records in my humble opinion. To blame Kahn is ridiculous. Point 6: we traded the 18th pick, a pick where the reasonable pick had to be a point guard, for the 16th pick in the next draft. That leaves 5 and 2, I wouldn't have done either personally, but I feel both are debatable and certainly aren't enough to call for Kahns head.

[CRACKSMATIC]

good pick-up by the Jazz... they needed to replace the scoring they lose with Boozer and Korver

[amb1ent]

i haven't read the first 10 pages, so i'm gonna just assume several twolves fans appeared to reassure everybody that david khan does in fact have a plan, and this is part of it.

although how much value can you realistically get for a rich man's zach randolph?

[mefromthefuture]

i haven't read the first 10 pages, so i'm gonna just assume several twolves fans appeared to reassure everybody that david khan does in fact have a plan, and this is part of it.

although how much value can you realistically get for a rich man's zach randolph?

And the rest filled with a bunch of people saying ha ha Kahn stupid ha ha and then when called out they have nothing but garbage no facts. Really a bunch of followers doing the "cool thing" and rip em because Bill Simmons and whatever that fool's name is from yahoo does.

And no I don't know what Kahn's plan is but this team is better then they were a year ago.

[iverigma]

Koufos was included in thre package. according to this twitter.

LOL turned out David Kahn does make some sense - his goal is to assemble a all-white front line with Love, Darko, that european rookie and Koufos. Man then he shouldn't have picked up Beasley.

[JR Rider]

1). Flynn at draft time was linked strongly with Sacremento at the 4th pick. Blaming Khan for taking a point guard ranked higher on most mock draft sites going into the draft is ridiculous.

LOL. Mock drafts are based on what GMs are thinking/what the conventional wisdom is, they are not an inarguable evaluation of talent. I guess by this argument, you think it was ok for Dumars to pick Darko, since so many mocks had him there?

2). I like this trade for Minnesota, Gomes was garbage and Babbit will be another rookie. Webster is still only 24 and showed huge strides before injuring himself two years ago and being buried on a deep portland bench.

Gomes is what Webster is: a mediocre role player.

3). Correction, hes all in on Darko and Pekovic. Which centres did he pass up? Cousins at 4? Yes that may come back to bite him but Wesley Johnson i also a stud. who else, our next pick was 16 and there was no centre to rech for there nearly as good as Darko or Pekovic.

He passed up all the centers in a center heavy draft except for Paulo Prestes. Whiteside, Alabi, Cousins, Aldrich, etc. etc.

Pekovic is too short and gravity-bound to be a full-time NBA center.

I would rather have Whiteside than Darko. At least with Whiteside there's hope. Instead the Wolves have Lazar Hayward, who will probably get 5 mpg.

5). Im fairly certain this trade rumour got shot down.

I'm fairly certain David Kahn publicly verified this trade rumor. Perhaps he was just lying though.

6). He didnt trade Ty Lawson. He traded the 18th pick o denver who had minnesota draft Ty Lawson for them. What would we do with Ty Lawson anyway? we allready drafted an undersized point guard in Flynn? Why the hll would we keep him?

Exactly, the Flynn pick led to a whole bunch of awful decisions down the road, just like Kahn going all in on Darko is leading to a whole bunch of awful decisions.

7). He didnt spend a year lowering his value. He actually spent most of the year saying Jefferson was a future piece. Then he realised Jefferson is useless at the centre position and Love is going to be better power forward so had to trade him. m I happy with ou return? No. Did Jefferson have to go, yes.

When you make it abundantly clear that you don't value a player, don't want to keep him, even go so far as to not consider him an NBA starter (according to the wolves' front office, Darko was the team's only NBA caliber starter last year), you are lowering the player's value.

some people are not worth arguing with. this is a prime example.

[ahonui06]

I believe that Beasley will fit nicely with Kevin Love and they will turn into a good backcourt for Minnesota as long as Rambis doesn't insist on running the triangle offense.

[kombayn]

Luke Ridnour is close to a deal with the Wolves as well. I'm kind of confused by what is going on in Minnesota. Right now they just have a bunch of bench players on their team except Kevin Love and I would say Michael Beasley.

Minnesota Roster:
PG - L. Ridnour/J. Flynn/R. Sessions
SG - M. Webster/W. Ellington
SF - C. Brewer/W. Johnson/L. Hayward
PF - K. Love/M. Beasley/N. Pekovic
C - D. Milicic/R. Hollins/S. Stiemsma

They would all be under contract with the Wolves. I mean I can't really tell what they're doing at the moment. The goal has to be 25+ wins this season, 30+ to be called an actual success of a season, 40+ would be over-achieving looking at this roster right now. I'm not confident about the Clippers either being better than 30 wins.

[mefromthefuture]

Luke Ridnour is close to a deal with the Wolves as well. I'm kind of confused by what is going on in Minnesota. Right now they just have a bunch of bench players on their team except Kevin Love and I would say Michael Beasley.

Minnesota Roster:
PG - L. Ridnour/J. Flynn/R. Sessions
SG - M. Webster/W. Ellington
SF - C. Brewer/W. Johnson/L. Hayward
PF - K. Love/M. Beasley/N. Pekovic
C - D. Milicic/R. Hollins/S. Stiemsma

They would all be under contract with the Wolves. I mean I can't really tell what they're doing at the moment. The goal has to be 25+ wins this season, 30+ to be called an actual success of a season, 40+ would be over-achieving looking at this roster right now. I'm not confident about the Clippers either being better than 30 wins.

Wes Johnson will be good and start, Pekovic will be the back up center

And I think we want to keep our pick from the clippers next season.

[DByrne86]

Gasol also shot 50.8% in FGs with the Grizz, and is shooting 55.8% with the Lakers. I think you will see a similar jump in efficiency with Jefferson, as well as a greater commitment to defense. The Jazz are as well set up as any team in the West outside the Lakers.

Except the Jazz had a better player than Jefferson at PF last year and didn't win the West.

Why the F are you hating so hard dude? The Jazz could have walked away from this offseason with nothing, instead they grab an immensely talented big body. That should be applauded and you know it.

[So Gutta]

It depends on what the Wolves turn the TPE into now. Perhaps they can get Iggy at the trade deadline if the Iggy/Turner combo doesn't work out?

C: Darko/Pekovic
PF: Beasley/Love
SF: Johnson/Beasley
SG: Iggy/Webster
PG: Flynn/Ridnour

looks pretty solid to me.

You think that lineup looks solid? Wow. You're setting the bar pretty low. That looks like one of the worst lineups in the league to me.

[kombayn]

Luke Ridnour is close to a deal with the Wolves as well. I'm kind of confused by what is going on in Minnesota. Right now they just have a bunch of bench players on their team except Kevin Love and I would say Michael Beasley.

Minnesota Roster:
PG - L. Ridnour/J. Flynn/R. Sessions
SG - M. Webster/W. Ellington
SF - C. Brewer/W. Johnson/L. Hayward
PF - K. Love/M. Beasley/N. Pekovic
C - D. Milicic/R. Hollins/S. Stiemsma

They would all be under contract with the Wolves. I mean I can't really tell what they're doing at the moment. The goal has to be 25+ wins this season, 30+ to be called an actual success of a season, 40+ would be over-achieving looking at this roster right now. I'm not confident about the Clippers either being better than 30 wins.

Wes Johnson will be good and start, Pekovic will be the back up center

And I think we want to keep our pick from the clippers next season.

Los Angeles Clippers receive Minnesota's 2010 first-round pick (top 10 protected through 2011 and unprotected after). (Marko Jaric trade 081205)

Actually we have your pick. Thanks.

[mefromthefuture]

Luke Ridnour is close to a deal with the Wolves as well. I'm kind of confused by what is going on in Minnesota. Right now they just have a bunch of bench players on their team except Kevin Love and I would say Michael Beasley.

Minnesota Roster:
PG - L. Ridnour/J. Flynn/R. Sessions
SG - M. Webster/W. Ellington
SF - C. Brewer/W. Johnson/L. Hayward
PF - K. Love/M. Beasley/N. Pekovic
C - D. Milicic/R. Hollins/S. Stiemsma

They would all be under contract with the Wolves. I mean I can't really tell what they're doing at the moment. The goal has to be 25+ wins this season, 30+ to be called an actual success of a season, 40+ would be over-achieving looking at this roster right now. I'm not confident about the Clippers either being better than 30 wins.

Wes Johnson will be good and start, Pekovic will be the back up center

And I think we want to keep our pick from the clippers next season.

Los Angeles Clippers receive Minnesota's 2010 first-round pick (top 10 protected through 2011 and unprotected after). (Marko Jaric trade 081205)

Actually we have your pick. Thanks.

Actually I said that.

But for one more year it's protected.

With 15 mil in cap room for next year, Rubio hopefully and one more lottery pick it should at least be a higher lottery pick in 2012.

[Jase]

Sap had to be pissed.

[Chili Fries]

I'm sure somebody has said this but...the Wolves pass on Cousins when they are just going to trade Jefferson and have their two new acquisitions, Johnson and Beasely play the same position. Don't make sense to me.

[Mamba Venom]

So Minny fans after this what did you guys get for Garnett?

[The J Rocka]

So Minny fans after this what did you guys get for Garnett?

2 future first rnd picks, TPE, and Michael Beasley. Drafted Wayne Ellington, and traded Gomes for Webster. That's how I look at it anyways.

[AQuintus]

So Minny fans after this what did you guys get for Garnett?

A better deal than the Lakers got for Caron Butler.

[DrEvil1996]

So Minny fans after this what did you guys get for Garnett?

What did the Cavs get for Lebron and the Raptors get for Bosh?

They got the same or less for players just as good or better than KG (and who were still in their prime).

[DanoMac]

DJ Jazzy Jeff.