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I dont know why he left Cleveland....i mean shoot, he had mo williams...........
Side Note: Kobe has Gasol, Odom, Artest, Bynum
Side Note: Kobe has Gasol, Odom, Artest, Bynum
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I agree with you on LeBron. But eff you and the entire state of Alabama!!! Sure I'm joking, but really eff the tide.
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Roll Tide Baaby wrote:I dont know why he left Cleveland....i mean shoot, he had mo williams...........
Side Note: Kobe has Gasol, Odom, Artest, Bynum
Welcome back McGrady2Head. Where have you been?
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Roll Tide Baaby wrote:I dont know why he left Cleveland....i mean shoot, he had mo williams...........
Side Note: Kobe has Gasol, Odom, Artest, Bynum
because he's the next pippen and not jordan
so he has to reunion with the next jordan (wade)
they also got their next grant in bosh
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kam_soluusar wrote:
Garnett did it. He would never had got a ring in Minnesota, LeBron is doing the same.
I think it's pretty unfair to Garnett to equate him with Lebron.
Garnett gave his all to Minny for a long time. He spent 12 years with them. And please, Garnett didn't make a one hour special of his "decision".
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Harmless wrote:I think it's pretty unfair to Garnett to equate him with Lebron.
Garnett gave his all to Minny for a long time. He spent 12 years with them. And please, Garnett didn't make a one hour special of his "decision".
LeBron gave his all to Cleveland for 7. If it ain't workin why stick around for five more years?
Also his special became the third most watched program this year. So evidently a lot of people wanted to see it. I bet the first guy to have a press conference was viewed as an arrogant prick too. Just because he was the first to do it doesn't male it wrong.
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Ribalding wrote:moofs wrote:Grow it - 80s
Tune it - 90s
Milk it - 00s
Times ain't changed, things just got more entrenched.
Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for your headliner, hailing from Chicago...Noam Chomsky!!
"Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."
Ouch.
It feels like I was just called a Jazz fan.
Really gotta learn to watch that, someday.
Morey 2020.
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Wasn't meant to be a slight. Chomsky may be irrelevant, but he's entertaining.
Like us, really.
Like us, really.
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No prob, I didn't take offense to it anyway - was more like "whoops, did I go hyper-libertarian/cynic/conspiracytheorynut in public again?"
...And Duiz always used the guy as his avatar.
...And Duiz always used the guy as his avatar.

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College Boy wrote:Things did obviously get messy, but that was unavoidable. No matter who he chose, people's feelings were going to get hurt.
"The Decision" was actually very avoidable. Yes Cavs fans were going to be dissapointed regardless but to do that to them live on national tv is a big douche bag move. It's like breaking up with your gf but not telling her beforehand and announcing it live on tv that your choosing someone else.
I don't blame Lebron for leaving but the WAY he did it was horrible. At least have some courtesy for the fans who supported you for 7 years
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The way you describe it, Transistor, is a lot like every single episode of Jerry Springer.
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Once again, LeBron did not break up with Cleveland on National TV. He was a free agent ALREADY. The only way this could have been embarrassing to Cleveland is if he did this during the season.
It's a douche bag move if you do something on your own accord to spite your affiliated organization. LeBron had NO affiliated organization. Now what Dan Gilbert, T-Mac, or Kobe did was a douche bag move.
After careful consideration, I can concede that airing your "decision" during an hour special CAN reasonably be conceived as self-serving. But embarrassing or disloyal to Cleveland, no such thing.
It's a douche bag move if you do something on your own accord to spite your affiliated organization. LeBron had NO affiliated organization. Now what Dan Gilbert, T-Mac, or Kobe did was a douche bag move.
After careful consideration, I can concede that airing your "decision" during an hour special CAN reasonably be conceived as self-serving. But embarrassing or disloyal to Cleveland, no such thing.
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Ur right college, Lebron did try to recruit bosh to Cle but fail so at least he was trying to stay in Cle. The cavs and Gilbert just couldn't make it happen so they're at fault as much as lebron is for leaving on national tv.
The decision was thrown together by his PR people and lebron was conned into doing it. He's very much a kid in his own right. A rookie to the media business. He needs to surround himself with some veteran people and not his friends or people he parties with. When you don't separate business with pleasure....things like "the decision" happen.
The decision was thrown together by his PR people and lebron was conned into doing it. He's very much a kid in his own right. A rookie to the media business. He needs to surround himself with some veteran people and not his friends or people he parties with. When you don't separate business with pleasure....things like "the decision" happen.
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PocketRockets wrote:Ur right college, Lebron did try to recruit bosh to Cle but fail so at least he was trying to stay in Cle. The cavs and Gilbert just couldn't make it happen so they're at fault as much as lebron is for leaving on national tv.
The decision was thrown together by his PR people and lebron was conned into doing it. He's very much a kid in his own right. A rookie to the media business. He needs to surround himself with some veteran people and not his friends or people he parties with. When you don't separate business with pleasure....things like "the decision" happen.
But I still can't hate on his decision making though. "The Decision" became the 3rd most watched program of 2010. If that many people care about what you have to say, why not give them what they want? Let's be honest, the only reason people complain about it is because he didn't pick their team. I guarantee if he would have picked us you wouldn't find one bad word about him anywhere near here.
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