Did LeBron have an obligation to stay?

WadeInTheWater · Post #21 » by **WadeInTheWater** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:34 am

Guys i respect the hell out of cleveland and don't worry you WILL taste success soon but please try to understand that the man owed you NOTHING, read that back NOTHING. 7 years is a long time in Basketball and he endured alot and just wants a fresh start, is that a crime?

rjgraca · Post #22 » by **rjgraca** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:45 am

^Another post by a Miami fan better posted on the Miami Board. Posts like this don't help. Lebron didn't endure much of anything. The way he's handled himself over the last coupled years with the grand disrespect of Northeast Ohio and CAV fans on National T.V. is enduring bad things.

Post #23 » by **B Mac** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:11 am

WadeInTheWater wrote:Guys i respect the hell out of cleveland and don't worry you WILL taste success soon but please try to understand that the man owed you NOTHING, read that back NOTHING. 7 years is a long time in Basketball and he endured alot and just wants a fresh start, is that a crime?

Wow. You really dont get it.

Manny Phresh · Post #24 » by **Manny Phresh** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:14 am

I could understand if our organization cared nothing about winning, didn't care nothing LeBron wanted. And they were steady losing. Then I couldn't even be mad at the man... Hell, I woulda been the first one to say get the hell outta Cleveland while you still could. But that's not the case. The FO basically made every move he wanted. Dan Gilbert basically did everything and anything LeBron wanted. You act like LeQuit was pained to stay here. To be honest... He will never have it as good as he had it here. AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT $H!T TO THE BANK. The thing you guys don't understand. WE ARE NOT SAYING HE IS OBLIGATED TO STAY HERE. He wasn't although he blew smoke up our behinds about loving Cleveland, and wanting to stay and most of all WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP FOR CLEVELAND. He said he's all about winning... But why did he quit during the Boston series? All the fans of Cleveland ask is that he give us the best effort night in and night out. Had he did that, manage to still lose, and then quietly make known immediately that he's moving on, THEN I CAN'T EVEN GET MAD AT THE MAN. But NO! He handled this so poorly and KARMA will catch up with him and when it does, he's gonna look back to July 8, 2010, 9pm as the turning point of what was once his Fairy tale life. Don't come in here saying what makes us look bad. Nothing can pale in comparison to what LeQuitter has done in the past couple months.

Post #25 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:17 am

B Mac wrote:
WadeInTheWater wrote:Guys i respect the hell out of cleveland and don't worry you WILL taste success soon but please try to understand that the man owed you NOTHING, read that back NOTHING. 7 years is a long time in Basketball and he endured alot and just wants a fresh start, is that a crime?

Wow. You really dont get it.

Don't get it, can't read, can't understand the poll. It seems obvious, but it must be more ambiguous than I thought.

Post #26 » by **INKtastic** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:19 am

he gave himself an obligation to stay

"I have a goal and its a huge goal and that's to bring an NBA championship to Cleveland and I won't stop until I get it.” - LeBron James March 31, 2010

pistons · Post #27 » by **pistons** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:14 am

So from what I can gather , most Cavs fans are upset not as much about the fact that James left , but the manner in which he did it . . . But while in hindsight , taking the low key route may have been a better strategy just from a PR standpoint , I don't see what was inherently wrong with what he did. He capitalized on an incessant buzz about his decision to make some extra money . . Would it have been nicer to Cleveland and Dan Gilbert if he had let them know beforehand . . sure , , but it would have been a terrible business move , because Gilbert would have for sure leaked LeBron's destination thereby minimizing how much money he could have made from the event. I feel like if things had gone the other way and LBJ had picked Cleveland , but done it in the same manner , then no Cleveland fans would be upset , which is quite hypocritical. I mean when Grant Hill left my Pistons in 2000 for ORL , DET fans were disappointed of course , but they were very appreciative of what he had done for the team in his tenure , and I think LBJ has done even more for CLE than Hill ever did for DET. Not trying to come on your board and start anything , but I just felt like either I'm missing some extra information to explain why Cleveland feels so disrespected , or something , so could someone fill me in , or further explain the issues.

Knicksfan20 · Post #28 » by **Knicksfan20** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:59 pm

If Babybronbron didnt go to MIA to join the Wonder Twins, would you guys still hate him? I cant blame him for leaving Cleveland, but i can blame him for copping out and "taking his talents to south beach"

What a cowardly thing to do, i know Cleveland hates Lebron now, but if he went somewhere other then MIA would you hate him as much?

***Watch the language please***

-B Mac

JasonDaPsycho · Post #29 » by **JasonDaPsycho** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:02 pm

You know, it's his legacy he's ruining so it's really not "where Bron Bron goes to" that's the question.
It's just how ugly he handled the situation.

Furrski · Post #30 » by **Furrski** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:18 pm

Just in case you have'nt been following the situation closely, its the way he decided to leave, not the team he went to. If what came out of his mouth that night was "I'm taking my talents to Golden State", we'd be just as mad, yes. But I guess if it was NY we'd be just slightly more pissed, yes

gflem · Post #31 » by **gflem** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:45 pm

At this point the horse has been dead for over a week. Its time to stop beating it. Maybe we should just point some of these posters to some of the other threads and nicely ask them to read the thousand or so posts dedicated to this topic, rather than asking us to clue them in why we are pissed.
Its getting to he point where its like asking your prof for the answers to a test because you dont feel like reading all the material. I for one am done with trying to explain the obvious to these posters. I am starting to feel like these type of questions will be popping up well into this coming basketbll season if we keep answering them.

EddieJonesFan · Post #32 » by **EddieJonesFan** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:42 am

This is just an outsider's perspective, but I think this poll's results are proof of just how ignorant some LeBron apologists are. They try to build the strawman that Cavs fans are mad because they think LeBron belongs to them or is obligated to re-sign with the Cavs and then they argue it by saying it's his right and he gave the Cavs 7 years blah blah blah. That's obviously not the case with you guys. You guys are totally righteous in your complaints of how LeBron left, and he left the way he did ONLY to stroke his ego and market his image further. For a guy that gets the most attention and promotion in the whole sports world, he held your team hostage to just squeeze out a little more. He could've easily had his Miami dream while giving your team the courtesy of a heads up. The Cavs FO bent over backwards for him in order to keep him happy and they based decisions around him and with his encouragement, and he said to the fans multiple times that he doesn't want to leave, but he leaves (something that appears to be planned a while ago) in the most inconsiderate and obnoxious fashion possible. Leaving your franchise to settle over offseason scraps. After this, all he has to offer to Cleveland and the Cavs is disingenuous platitudes.

nbacardDOTnet · Post #33 » by **nbacardDOTnet** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:33 am

lj4mvp wrote:he gave himself an obligation to stay

"I have a goal and its a huge goal and that's to bring an NBA championship to Cleveland and I won't stop until I get it.” - LeBron James March 31, 2010

Original Ver.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1XAkkOSZWE[/youtube]

Highlights include The Decision
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g8n7ylEZWs[/youtube]

gflem · Post #34 » by **gflem** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:43 pm

EddieJonesFan wrote:This is just an outsider's perspective, but I think this poll's results are proof of just how ignorant some LeBron apologists are. They try to build the strawman that Cavs fans are mad because they think LeBron belongs to them or is obligated to re-sign with the Cavs and then they argue it by saying it's his right and he gave the Cavs 7 years blah blah blah. That's obviously not the case with you guys. You guys are totally righteous in your complaints of how LeBron left, and he left the way he did ONLY to stroke his ego and market his image further. For a guy that gets the most attention and promotion in the whole sports world, he held your team hostage to just squeeze out a little more. He could've easily had his Miami dream while giving your team the courtesy of a heads up. The Cavs FO bent over backwards for him in order to keep him happy and they based decisions around him and with his encouragement, and he said to the fans multiple times that he doesn't want to leave, but he leaves (something that appears to be planned a while ago) in the most inconsiderate and obnoxious fashion possible. Leaving your franchise to settle over offseason scraps. After this, all he has to offer to Cleveland and the Cavs is disingenuous platitudes.

Glad to see you get why we are upset. However, I think you are misreading the poll results. I believe he had no obligation to stay, but he shirked all the other obligations of which you spoke. And many others here have said exactly the same thing.

heathmalc · Post #35 » by **heathmalc** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:44 pm

ESPN espn

Dwyane Wade says LeBron James didn't quit on Cleveland Cavaliers in playoffs -
http://es.pn/cEYveE

heathmalc · Post #36 » by **heathmalc** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:05 pm

PDcavsinsider

Dwyane Wade says LeBron didn't quit in playoffs. Anyone can say what didn't happen. I'm waiting to hear explanation of what DID happen.

clockwork247 · Post #37 » by **clockwork247** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:14 am

FUEGO wrote:Also Kevin Durant is gonna be the next face of the NBA, but don;t compare him to Lebron. He didn't come straight from High School. Also he was only in the league for 3 going on 4 years. Of course he's gona stay loyal to his team. He hasn't been there for 7 years and turned a garbage team around plus Durant has a hell of a point. That's not Mo.

the cav actually did all they can to give LBJ the team he wanted... however I can see why LBJ jump ship, it was too tempting. Financially someone chalked it up and apparently he won't be losing much money playing for tax free florida. So it was a win win situation for him. I would rather he stayed since he was drafted by the cav AND grew up in the near by area... loyalty goes a long way.

Manny Phresh · Post #38 » by **Manny Phresh** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:54 am

I think the ignorance is finally leaving this thread... no?

heathmalc · Post #39 » by **heathmalc** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:08 am

LeBron really had no obligation to stay, beyond him "promising" that he wouldn't leave Cleveland until he did win a title.

But, it isn't that he left...although that pisses off a ton of us (me included), it's how he left... he went on national TV, had a special show for an hour of ego-jerking, then said he was gonna leave the Cavs.

In short, No...he had no obligation to Cleveland.

nbacardDOTnet · Post #40 » by **nbacardDOTnet** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:34 am

heathmalc wrote:ESPN espn

Dwyane Wade says LeBron James didn't quit on Cleveland Cavaliers in playoffs -
http://es.pn/cEYveE

Of course, D-Wade can tell like that.
Because he is leader of Heat and LBJ is now his (cough lapdog) teammate.

but

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFzhb1AaZ04[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i3EeyOC4sQ[/youtube]

It's simple.

If LBJ didn't quit, It means LBJ has been really overrated.

and for topic, he had no obligation to stay because he was FA.