The Sixerfan1976 Off-Season Thread (Update: Page 61)

[Gsraider]

A T-wolves offer that does not include Wes Johnson does not interest me. Iggy and Jason Smith for Koufos or a first round pick and Johnson, I'd consider that.

You know, that is kind of interesting because Collins was said to really like Johnson and he might just be a better fit alongside Turner if he pans out. Not sure about the picks, but I could see the Sixers being interested in a move that brought back Johnson. After all, it would be no different than if the Sixers traded Iguodala for the #4 pick in the draft and I bet they would have done that. I doubt you get the first round pick too though. This would be a way for Philly to get a nice prospect to replace Iguodala and clear payroll in the process.

[sixerfan1976]

did Johnson sign his rookie contract yet? IF he did..that would delay such a trade. I do not know of anything concrete about him being available though.

Whats the rule about players being re-traded. Koufos can be re-traded..but doesnt it have to be in a deal where he is the only one leaving? If so...who would you trade from our current roster for him? Jason Smith?

[76ciology]

did Johnson sign his rookie contract yet? IF he did..that would delay such a trade. I do not know of anything concrete about him being available though.

Whats the rule about players being re-traded. Koufos can be re-traded..but doesnt it have to be in a deal where he is the only one leaving? If so...who would you trade from our current roster for him? Jason Smith?

I think one of our guards are expendable. I'm guessing either Kapono or Green, since I believe the Wolves are cost cutting.

Jason Smith is also a possible option, but I think he'd be better in our roster because I don't think that we have that much depth at the C position. Another thing is that why would we deal J-Smith for Koufos? It doesn't really make that much sense, since I think both guys sucks, defensively at the C position.

[ponder719]

did Johnson sign his rookie contract yet? IF he did..that would delay such a trade. I do not know of anything concrete about him being available though.

Whats the rule about players being re-traded. Koufos can be re-traded..but doesnt it have to be in a deal where he is the only one leaving? If so...who would you trade from our current roster for him? Jason Smith?

Assuming the deal was Iguodala for Johnson, Koufos, and a TPE (and whatever else in either direction. These are just the important elements for timing) I suspect the teams would do Iguodala for Johnson and a TPE of $12.3M or so, and then as a follow-up trade, the Sixers would acquire Koufos with $1.3M of the TPE, leaving us with an $11M TPE, Johnson, and Koufos.

[76ciology]

did Johnson sign his rookie contract yet? IF he did..that would delay such a trade. I do not know of anything concrete about him being available though.

Whats the rule about players being re-traded. Koufos can be re-traded..but doesnt it have to be in a deal where he is the only one leaving? If so...who would you trade from our current roster for him? Jason Smith?

Assuming the deal was Iguodala for Johnson, Koufos, and a TPE (and whatever else in either direction. These are just the important elements for timing) I suspect the teams would do Iguodala for Johnson and a TPE of $12.3M or so, and then as a follow-up trade, the Sixers would acquire Koufos with $1.3M of the TPE, leaving us with an $11M TPE, Johnson, and Koufos.

I like that deal from dilbert. But I don't think we are going to pull that big of a deal It's just too complicated for Ed's IQ to analyze.

He's more of a 2nd rounder for Jodie meeks kind of GM.

[Sixersftw]

I am completely and utterly in for that first trade Dilbert. I don't know if I would waste part of that TPE on Koufos.

[sixerfan1976]

did Johnson sign his rookie contract yet? IF he did..that would delay such a trade. I do not know of anything concrete about him being available though.

Whats the rule about players being re-traded. Koufos can be re-traded..but doesnt it have to be in a deal where he is the only one leaving? If so...who would you trade from our current roster for him? Jason Smith?

Assuming the deal was Iguodala for Johnson, Koufos, and a TPE (and whatever else in either direction. These are just the important elements for timing) I suspect the teams would do Iguodala for Johnson and a TPE of $12.3M or so, and then as a follow-up trade, the Sixers would acquire Koufos with $1.3M of the TPE, leaving us with an $11M TPE, Johnson, and Koufos.

I like that deal from dilbert. But I don't think we are going to pull that big of a deal It's just too complicated for Ed's IQ to analyze.

He's more of a 2nd rounder for Jodie meeks kind of GM.

LOL...So True

[radrmd216]

I definitely like Johnson and a TPE for Iggy. That is essentially trading Iggy for a top 5 pick and cap space.

[philly262]

Best Thing about Billy King was his trades, he could turn Monty Williams, Brian Skinner and Kenny Thomas into Cwebb. The one thing BK knew was how to complete really complicated trades. I always thought Billy King everytime he made a trade was trying to break the record for most teams and most players trades.

Stefanski doesn't seem to be that creative when it comes to trades, it really seems to me that Stefanksi was living off the coattails of Rod Thorn. Can anybody even name one thing Stefanski does well as a GM?

But anyway I digress I think Minny might be a very good trade partner, I would love Wes Johnson in a Sixer uniform, that would give us a solid 1-2-3 for the next 10 years. We would still need a 4 and 5, but we can get that in the draft.

[Gsraider]

I cannot recall the rules as to whether or not Koufos can be re-traded by himself or as part of a package after just being traded, but it's not as though two deals couldn't be made if need be. Whatever the case, W. Johnson is based on our desires and speculation. Koufos appears to be a guy that Philly is known to be interested in and is certainly available. After a couple of nothing years, I wouldn't have high hopes, but he certainly has great size, is said to have a high basketball IQ, and can shoot the mid-range jumper.

[tk76]

I like that deal from dilbert. But I don't think we are going to pull that big of a deal It's just too complicated for Ed's IQ to analyze.

He's more of a 2nd rounder for Jodie meeks kind of GM.

More like a KK for future 1st, the future 1st + Carney/Booth for nothing type of GM.

He is very good at getting the Sixres nothing for something.

[Foshan]

I watched W.Johnson a bit in a summer league game, and i think he'd be a great fit for philly, and a bad fit for Min.

He's not remotely wired to even try to be a number one option/scorer. He strikes me as a very efficent 3rd or 4th option. I think Minny needs someone who is a bit more of an all around play maker/can score/stat stuffer. I think Johnson would be the perfect compliment to a Jrue/Turner, and I think Iggy would really work well between Flynn/Brewer
Jrue/Turner/Johnson/Brand/Hawes
(Rubio)/Iggy/Brewer/Love/Milic

[PH1LLYSFINEST13]

Honestly....Im kinda liking this whole Wes Johnson idea. But if we are trading Iguodala for another SF , that leaves Thaddeus as a 4 or 3 coming off the bench and doesnt adress our issue of no bigman.

[Kobblehead]

I can't imagine the Twolves dealing Johnson so quickly. Especially considering how high they were on him leading up to the draft.

[Gsraider]

I can't imagine the Twolves dealing Johnson so quickly. Especially considering how high they were on him leading up to the draft.

I can't either, but it's who I would require in any trade for Iguodala. Obtaining Koufos for scraps is far more likely.

[Skates]

I can't imagine the Twolves dealing Johnson so quickly. Especially considering how high they were on him leading up to the draft.

Never underestimate David Kahn, plus he may need another established player with Jefferson gone to pick up the scoring load along with whatever he gets from Beasley.

Thad left as a 3-4 combo sixth man? True, but really it doesn't seem like he is anything more than that adn if he beat out Johnson to start at the 3, then we have a nice shooter coming off the bench in Johnson.

I think any move for a big man is a minor one until we see how Hawes-Brand-Speights plays out, though I would rather something more impressive.

ES seems pretty gun shy these days about trades, hopefully that means he only bites on really good ones, rather than passes good ones up.

[Slacktard]

I think it means he's more likely to only do a trade if he feels like it improves the Sixers record for 2010-2011, not what it means for the team in 2011-2012 and beyond.

The offers they're getting for Iguodala that SF has mentioned do not improve their record in the upcoming season. If this team flat-lines again he's on the unemployment line and Doug Collins is being given his input to the new GM hiring process.

[ZzAzZ]

You guys must be slow, he isn't going to give him up unless we can throw a few PG's his way.

[51X3RF4N]

I'm down for Iggy/Wes swap.

It means we are starting completely fresh at PG/SG/SF and Center. With PF being Brand. Now, this move would create the TPE, which could be used to trade for a young, defensive minded Center and we'd be set.

[The Guilty Party]

did Johnson sign his rookie contract yet? IF he did..that would delay such a trade. I do not know of anything concrete about him being available though.

Whats the rule about players being re-traded. Koufos can be re-traded..but doesnt it have to be in a deal where he is the only one leaving? If so...who would you trade from our current roster for him? Jason Smith?

I don't believe Johnson has signed his rookie contract. Once he did, I believe the CBA rule is that the Wolves would need to wait 60 days in order to trade him. as for Koufos, he can be moved in a deal as long as other players aren't included. As Gsraider said, you could always break a bigger deal down into two deals if needbe.

I don't know... part of me want's a deal to happen because this roster is far from being complete but I just don't know that I like moving Iguodala in any deal where we aren't getting a key cog for our future. I would consider Wes a key cog though so I'd definitely have interest although I'd prefer Love.