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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#121 » by revprodeji » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:51 pm

At this stage I just hope we take a chance on Beasley, give him a ton of minutes and confidence, and not look to flip him right away.
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#122 » by mandurugo » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:59 pm

JMillott wrote:...

The main issues with Beasley as a PF are that he's never going to rebound or block at more then a passably decent level. Those weaknesses are worth putting up with if he can become a 23-25 PPG scorer or better.

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I still think that Beasley's rebounding numbers were affected by the way Miami was having him play - he was a dominant rebounder at Kansas State and I think he could be very good again. Rebounding is usually a skill that translates very well from college to the pros. At any rate, his college numbers at least give us a reason to hope that this could happen...
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#123 » by TrentTuckerForever » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:18 pm

mandurugo wrote:I still think that Beasley's rebounding numbers were affected by the way Miami was having him play - he was a dominant rebounder at Kansas State and I think he could be very good again. Rebounding is usually a skill that translates very well from college to the pros. At any rate, his college numbers at least give us a reason to hope that this could happen...


That's a great point. Does it decrease Love's value to the Wolves if Beasley can rebound in double digits? I love me some Love, but Beasley can do things on the offensive end that Love cannot. Maybe he will be traded after all.
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#124 » by TrentTuckerForever » Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:24 pm

Not sure if this has been posted already, but this is from Canis on Beasley's position. I don't agree, but it's a good read from a statistical standpoint:

http://www.canishoopus.com/2010/7/9/156 ... #storyjump

Miami overachieved last year I think... that team (Wade, Haslem, an underutilized Beasley and 14 free agents to be) won 47 games. They were coached to "win-now," which meant that Beasley's development was curtailed to some degree. So I'm not crazy about Oceanary's conclusions here. Yes, Beasley has been statistically more successful at the 4 in two years in Miami. That doesn't guarante he'll maximize his potential there.
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#125 » by Joel Embust » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:23 pm

Has Beasley been introduced as an official member of the Timberwolves? Have there been comments from Mike himself on his new team and the trade in general?
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Post#126 » by C.lupus » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:57 pm

Eleqtrique wrote:Has Beasley been introduced as an official member of the Timberwolves? Have there been comments from Mike himself on his new team and the trade in general?

Kahn mentioned yesterday that Beasley had an emergency root canal or smething and Kahn hadn't even had a chance to talk to him yet. He did say Beasley seemed happy about the move but I don't know where that was actually coming from. I expect there will be a presser coming shortly.
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#127 » by Esohny » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:59 pm

Are Kevin Love and Beasley friends? I thought I'd read that somewhere.
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#128 » by revprodeji » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:25 pm

no, and that worries me. Some people say he had a root canal issue. But until we see the presser I am worried we flip him.
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#129 » by wildvikeswolves » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:50 pm

hes not going anywhere now that Als gone. we really need him and his potential

heres a very interesting comparison from Lipoli. pretty intelligent bball mind from the ESPN Wolves board.

I think there's far too much concern about whether Beasley is a PF or SF. It doesn't really matter any more than it matters for Carmelo Anthony. Beasely is a highly skilled, athletic (yes, athletic) scoring machine who can also rebound and do other things. His college numbers were nearly identical to Kevin Durant's and better than Melo's. But what about Beasley's disappointing two seasons in the NBA? Well, if you take a closer look, Beasley's two NBA seasons aren't so bad after all. In fact, his production is right in line with Melo's production his first two NBA seasons. Consider the following 35 minute per game stats of both:

POINTS -- Beasley's 1st two seasons: 19.6 and 17.2. Melo's: 20.1 and 21.

REBOUNDS - Beasley's 1st two seasons: 7.7 and 7.5. Melo's: 5.7 and 5.7

FG % -- Beasley's 1st two seasons: 47.2 and 45.0. Melo's: 42.6 and 43.1.

3-Pt % -- Beasley's 1st two seasons: 40.7 and 27.5. Melo's 32.2 and 26.6.

OTHER STATS -- Virtually identical in steals, blocks and turnovers.

Yes, but isn't Melo more physically gifted? Isn't Beasley more of a PF in that he's less athletic than Melo? The answer is clearly no. Compare their measurements and combine numbers:

Height -- Beasley 6'7. Melo 6'6 1/4

Weight -- Beasley 239. Melo 233

Overhead Reach -- Beasley 8'11. Melo 8'9 1/2

Wingspan -- Beasley 7'0 1/4. Melo 7'0.

No-Step Vertical -- Beasley 30.0. Melo 30.5

Step Vertical -- Beasley 35. Melo 33.5

Sprint Time -- Beasley 3.24. Melo 3.15. (Beasley's time same as Flynn's)

Agility Time -- Beasley 11.06. Melo 11.40

Bench Press -- Beasley 185 lbs 19 times. Melo 185 lbs 7 times.

Beasley is longer, wider, stronger a better leaper and quicker laterally than Melo. So who's the better athlete and who can't play SF?

I recall some of the recent chatter on this Board about the Wolves acquiring Melo. That was entirely unrealistic. But we may have just lucked into our own version of Melo. Time will tell. The attitude issues are there, but no one knows how serious they are or how much of it was due to immaturity.

Melo's number took off and it elite levels beginning his third season. It will be interesting to see if Beasley does the same. It's really up to Rambis to not blow this opportunity. Rambis needs to give Beasley a consistent 32 - 37 minutes a game every single game for the entire season. That will help Beasley mentally and it will also give us the chance to see just how good he can be.
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#130 » by The J Rocka » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:55 pm

MNTimberwolves

#Twolves presser introducing Michael Beasley tomorrow at 3PM. Catch live video at timberwolves.com. Beasley to wear #8
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#131 » by wildvikeswolves » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:01 pm

J_Era_3 wrote:MNTimberwolves

#Twolves presser introducing Michael Beasley tomorrow at 3PM. Catch live video at timberwolves.com. Beasley to wear #8


GREAT to hear. definitly watchin that
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#132 » by Krapinsky » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:01 pm

I got to say, I am 10 x more excited about Beasley than I am for Johnson. The more interviews I've watched of the guy the more normal I realize he is. For some reason he's really goofy with Chris Broussard in that one, but the rest he seems like a well spoken, chill dude that actually has his head on straight.
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#133 » by Saltine » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:14 pm

I've had a couple friends have emergency root canals, you don't want to be seen in public for a few days. Their faces get all puffy and weird looking, I doubt his agent wanted him doing any interviews. He'd look like he just spent the weekend getting wasted on prescription meds ;)
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#134 » by TMo519 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:21 pm

Root canals are no joke, they will definitely take you out for a few days. But glad to hear a presser is coming tomorrow. I'm really excited about this guy, and that Melo comparison post just got me even more excited lol.
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#135 » by Joel Embust » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:25 pm

J_Era_3 wrote:MNTimberwolves

#Twolves presser introducing Michael Beasley tomorrow at 3PM. Catch live video at timberwolves.com. Beasley to wear #8




This takes away the uncertainty. 8-)
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#136 » by dunkonu21 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:58 pm

The press conference is tomorrow or today? grrr i don't wanna wait
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Re: Expectations for Beasley 

Post#137 » by Klomp » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:03 pm

dunkonu21 wrote:The press conference is tomorrow or today? grrr i don't wanna wait


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