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Re: Cool nickname for the Gilbert Arenas and John Wall backcourt 

Post#61 » by montestewart » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:15 am

Kanyewest wrote:Nestle (cuz he’s kwik)

I like that. Nestle might sue him or maybe they'd hire him to do ads.
pancakes3 wrote:i've always thought fat guy nicknames were WAY better than "cool" sounding nicknames.

Like Meatloaf, Bacon Fat, 4-Lane, etc. I think I like that concept, but it might not look so good in a super-cool Gatorade ad.
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Re: Cool nickname for the Gilbert Arenas and John Wall backcourt 

Post#62 » by Dat2U » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:58 am

I haven't read the thread so I don't know if someone said it already but I think I got the perfect name for a Wall/Arenas backcourt:

Lethal Weapons!
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Post#63 » by Hoopalotta » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:02 am

Dat2U wrote:I haven't read the thread so I don't know if someone said it already but I think I got the perfect name for a Wall/Arenas backcourt:

Lethal Weapons!


That's pretty good. :D
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Re: Cool nickname for the Gilbert Arenas and John Wall backcourt 

Post#64 » by montestewart » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:06 am

Dat2U wrote:I haven't read the thread so I don't know if someone said it already but I think I got the perfect name for a Wall/Arenas backcourt:

Lethal Weapons!

Mel Gibson as Gilbert Arenas.
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Post#65 » by MJG » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:35 am

The Conquistadors.
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Post#66 » by hands11 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:44 am

I doubt anything will stick that has to do with Guns and Ammo but if it did, Guns and Ammo would work.

As for Gil, I think Gil stays away from any names until he is well into proving he is productive and playing well.

For Wall, I sure hope people don't go over board and create another La Douche out of him.
Let the kid earn his wing by playing real NBA games for we gets a name. N1on5 took was earned just
like Mr Fundamental.

But as for a phrase I'm pretty sure we will hear before long.....Wall Ball WB for short.

The Great Wall is good but would have been better if he was a center.

From what I have seen of his so far, I name like Crash seems to fix. He can get a little out of control.

How about The General or Stealth or Stealth Bomber. You never saw it coming.
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Post#67 » by WizarDynasty » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:16 pm

So Wall is a cheatah/Slash hawk(but unskilled). blatche is a skilled hawk. Arenas is a skilled tiger.
Wall reminds me of a cheatah... he is a predator. Both Arenas and Wall are hunters. They contrast with Blatche who is also a predator. Out of the three Arenas is the most in the moment Predator. He is deadly because is success is based on instantaneously attacking whatever opening you give him. If you back off him...kill with jumper...play tight...he attacks you and gets your big in trouble. Wall is less of a instantaneous predator. His predatory skill is that he forces you to play faster than you want too and there is nothing you can do about it. He is like a cheetah because once he is zero in on a target no player on the floor has better combination of speed and agility to keep him from where he wants to go. Pretty much how cheetahs are. they are the fastest and most agile when running at lightening speed and what's makes wall a cheetah is that at lightening speeds he is capable of executing explosive deadly attacks. Only a few nba players can execute deadly attacks going full speed and are also the fastest on the court. Wall has Blatche's Eagle mentality because at full speed he makes passes that take advantage of holes in the defense that he creates.
Tiger and Cheetah. Wall should get a tattoo of a cheetah on his chest. Speed Grace and once he's locked in on his target..you aren't going to get away.
. An eagle or something. He sees things far far off. He usually kills you because he as well worked out plan which is highly coordinated. Like an eagle swooping in on its prey. Blatche usually see things way before his opponent does and he uses his well thought out move that he has practiced to perfection which is usually extremely creative even if it lacks physical explosiveness. Kind of like an eagle swooping down with a highly planned attack.
McGee is more like a monkey, leaping from branch to branch.

He can't really hold his ground against a land predator. extremely coordinated but doesn't have the ability to create well thought out attacks and doesn't have the power to intimidate other post players which is a necessary requirement for a post player.
Until McGee develop strength to intimidate other bigmen, he will always be a Vegetarian monkey eating fruit in trees but never a predator like Blatche, Arenas, and Wall.
This team at the moment only has three predators. Hinrich i see as wolf, he can probably do damage occassionally but he is best when he is working in a highly coordinate wolf pack, not talented enough to be a solo predator like Blatche, Arenas, and Wall. If McGee some how gets "good knees" and able to do squats...he could become a predator....probably like a shark...He already has coordination..great hands...great flexibility....but what's a shark without power. Until he develops his leg power from heavy squats...he will be a tease. Just a shell of shark. Which is what McGee is now.
So wall a cheetah...Arenas a tiger...Blatche an Eagle..or Hawk... Hinrich wolf...not strong enough to carry the weight by himself at any point in time... Howard...fits in the same mold as Hinrich except...Howard would be a lead wolf...hinrich a following member of the pack.
Young reminds me a peacock....likes to strut and show off but definitely not a hunter..reminds me of the warthawg in lion king...happy living off worms and grubs....definitely isn't worried about bringing getting his hunt on to bring back food for the tribe.
thornton is like a antelope...big horns but isn't cunning enough to be a predator. I guess i have to see more T.Booker and Seraphin. Booker looks like a Silver Back...pretty aggressive and expect aggressiveness from his team mates and protector. Don't know about his skill yet time will tell.
Yi reminds me of Simba living with Warthog eating grubs...He knows deep down that he is a lion ...but his mind can't piece together successful hunting practices because successful training was never passed down to him. So he is a forest trying to figure out how to hunt successfully with no one proven to trust and help him escape long learning curve associated with not having a successful mentor to imitate when he was young.
Had he had successful nba style mentor growing up he would probably be MJ at the powerforward spot.
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Post#68 » by fishercob » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:03 pm

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Post#69 » by Induveca » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:21 pm

No nickname is good for a while, let Arenas stay under the radar for a bit and hide in John Wall's media shadow until he's back to 80% of his old self. :)
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Post#70 » by VictorPage44 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:03 am

WizarDynasty wrote:
Young reminds me a peacock....likes to strut and show off but definitely not a hunter.



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Post#71 » by Dat2U » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:14 am

hands11 wrote:I doubt anything will stick that has to do with Guns and Ammo but if it did, Guns and Ammo would work.


How bout Guns & Butter?
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Re: Cool nickname for the Gilbert Arenas and John Wall backcourt 

Post#72 » by hands11 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:38 am

Is D Wade slash.

Wall is defiantly Crash

How about BP. You can't stop his pressure. :) Kind of along the lines of the Glove. The name could be about his D.

Or something about his assist. Someone about dishing it around or spreading it around.
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Post#73 » by dangermouse » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:22 am

WizarDynasty wrote:So Wall is a cheatah


Nah, ive only seen him carry the ball a couple of times so far in SL. And im yet to see him take too many steps on a move ala LeCrab.

hands11 wrote:Someone about dishing it around or spreading it around.


H1N1 would be a bit confusing.
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Post#74 » by GilArenas88 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:40 am

I feel like Wall is less of a cheetah, and more of a Liger, which are bred for their skills in magic.
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Post#75 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:05 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:So Wall is a cheatah/Slash hawk(but unskilled). blatche is a skilled hawk. Arenas is a skilled tiger.
Wall reminds me of a cheatah... he is a predator. Both Arenas and Wall are hunters. They contrast with Blatche who is also a predator. Out of the three Arenas is the most in the moment Predator. He is deadly because is success is based on instantaneously attacking whatever opening you give him. If you back off him...kill with jumper...play tight...he attacks you and gets your big in trouble. Wall is less of a instantaneous predator. His predatory skill is that he forces you to play faster than you want too and there is nothing you can do about it. He is like a cheetah because once he is zero in on a target no player on the floor has better combination of speed and agility to keep him from where he wants to go. Pretty much how cheetahs are. they are the fastest and most agile when running at lightening speed and what's makes wall a cheetah is that at lightening speeds he is capable of executing explosive deadly attacks. Only a few nba players can not execute deadly attacks going full speed and are also the fastest on the court. Wall has Blatche's Eagle mentality because at full speed he makes passes that take advantage of holes in the defense that he creates.
Tiger and Cheetah. Wall should get a tattoo of a cheetah on his chest. Speed Grace and once he's locked in on his target..you aren't going to get away.
. An eagle or something. He sees things far far off. He usually kills you because he as well worked out plan which is highly coordinated. Like an eagle swooping in on its prey. Blatche usually see things way before his opponent does and he uses his well thought out move that he has practiced to perfection which is usually extremely creative even if it lacks physical explosiveness. Kind of like an eagle swooping down with a highly planned attack.
McGee is more like a monkey, leaping from branch to branch.

He can't really hold his ground against a land predator. extremely coordinated but doesn't have the ability to create well thought out attacks and doesn't have the power to intimidate other post players which is a necessary requirement for a post player.
Until McGee develop strength to intimidate other bigmen, he will always be a Vegetarian monkey eating fruit in trees but never a predator like Blatche, Arenas, and Wall.
This team at the moment only has three predators. Hinrich i see as wolf, he can probably do damage occassionally but he is best when he is working in a highly coordinate wolf pack, not talented enough to be a solo predator like Blatche, Arenas, and Wall. If McGee some how gets "good knees" and able to do squats...he could become a predator....probably like a shark...He already has coordination..great hands...great flexibility....but what's a shark without power. Until he develops his leg power from heavy squats...he will be a tease. Just a shell of shark. Which is what McGee is now.
So wall a cheetah...Arenas a tiger...Blatche an Eagle..or Hawk... Hinrich wolf...not strong enough to carry the weight by himself at any point in time... Howard...fits in the same mold as Hinrich except...Howard would be a lead wolf...hinrich a following member of the pack.
Young reminds me a peacock....likes to strut and show off but definitely not a hunter..reminds me of the warthawg in lion king...happy living off worms and grubs....definitely isn't worried about bringing getting his hunt on to bring back food for the tribe.
thornton is like a antelope...big horns but isn't cunning enough to be a predator. I guess i have to see more T.Booker and Seraphin. Booker looks like a Silver Back...pretty aggressive and expect aggressiveness from his team mates and protector. Don't know about his skill yet time will tell.
Yi reminds me of Simba living with Warthog eating grubs...He knows deep down that he is a lion ...but his mind can't piece together successful hunting practices because successful training was never passed down to him. So he is a forest trying to figure out how to hunt successfully with no one proven to trust and help him escape long learning curve associated with not having a successful mentor to imitate when he was young.
Had he had successful nba style mentor growing up he would probably be MJ at the powerforward spot.

HOF post, seconded. A whole lot of good analogies, WD.

Wall is like the eagle and the cheetah. I really like that you've depicted Andray as an eagle as well. He thinks and sees things ahead of time, like Wall.

McGee=monkey and Nick=peacock I like. I like all your other comparisons, too.

Wall=cheetah and Gil=tiger. I hope Gil is tiger and not hyena this season. To me hyenas seem to have a scowl. Gil's game to me is also like the great white shark or the polar bear. Very successful predator that just overwhelms the prey. In the moment like you said, WD.

Hinrich as lone wolf is perfect.

Yi really does have more talent to him and has to pass the test. Don't know that he'll step up like Simba, but so far in his career he's certainly only dined on grubs. Needs to move up on the food chain.

Wonderful post, WizarDynasty. In all the years on this site I've never seen anybody break down any team using animal comparisons.
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Post#76 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:20 pm

A few nicknames for Gil and Wall, off the top:

The Death and The Resurrection (Gil almost killed his career and the franchise;Wall seems to be a savior)

Quicker and Trigger (Silly but sort of sounds ok)

One and Gun

Great Wall and Hibachi (I like this one)

Agent Zero and the New Hero

Prime Time and Crime Time (mean spirited. Sorry Gil)

9 Milliseconds and 9 Millimeter (I kinda like this one, too)

The Spotter and The Assassin (one sets up and the other finishes)
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Post#78 » by WizStorm » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:46 pm

The more I watch of John Wall, the more I believe that Gil is the absolute perfect back court complement. Gil's got the speed to keep up and has the unlimited shooting range that Wall lacks. In the latest Summer League game, the Wizards were strictly running with 2 PGs the entire game. And the result was that Wall's backcourt mate had wide open looks and seemed to share the ballhandling duties with no problems.

It was also refreshing to hear Webber talk so glowingly about the potential backcourt pairing instead of regurgitating the same hogwash that Gil is so selfish and that he has the ball in his hands at all times to be successful. I think the pairing can and will work.
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Post#79 » by Ruzious » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:57 pm

Ji wrote:the run and gun

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Post#80 » by verbal8 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:25 pm

WizStorm wrote:It was also refreshing to hear Webber talk so glowingly about the potential backcourt pairing instead of regurgitating the same hogwash that Gil is so selfish and that he has the ball in his hands at all times to be successful. I think the pairing can and will work.

A more talented Francis/Mobley or Gil/Hughes backcourt are the most obvious comparisons to how Wall and Arenas could work. However mentioning Webber reminds me of a situation that has some similarities.
The Bullets had Juwan Howard and brought in Chris Webber even though he was also a PF. On the basketball court it worked out pretty well. I think it worked because Webber had perimeter skills while Howard was a more traditional post player.

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