Clark and Warrick for Gortat (Trade Proposal)

JMac1 · Post #1 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:37 pm

The Magic just matched JJ, how' bout we send Warrick and Clark to Orl for Gortat.

Nash/Dragic
JRich/J-Chill
Hill/Dudley
Turk/Frye
Lopez/Gortat

Done for this off season

Wormwood74 · Post #2 » by **Wormwood74** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:39 pm

I'd do it. In a heartbeat. It would let us move Frye over to the starting 4 spot, and let Lawal come in like a hurricane as part of the bench mob.

MaryvalesFinest · Post #3 » by **MaryvalesFinest** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:39 pm

Warrick was just signed, doesn't that mean he can't be traded for like 6 months? Something like the trade exception and EC might work though...

Post #4 » by **Qwigglez** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:41 pm

I have really high hopes for Clark. However, given his disappointing summer league performance thus far, I'm not sure if he is ready to play at the NBA level. I would still decline this trade, mostly because the Suns would have the highest paid bench squad of the NBA for years to come. Warrick straight up for Gortat would be ideal. I want to give Clark another year before I give up on em.

JMac1 · Post #5 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:42 pm

MaryvalesFinest wrote:Warrick was just signed, doesn't that mean he can't be traded for like 6 months? Something like the trade exception and EC might work though...

Q Rich was trade 10x's last year, before being in Miami.

DirtyDez · Post #6 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:43 pm

Magic say no. Gortat is important to them when Dwight gets in foul trouble. I'd do it for Phx but Turk at PF is a mistake imo.

Post #7 » by **Qwigglez** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:43 pm

JMac1 wrote:
MaryvalesFinest wrote:Warrick was just signed, doesn't that mean he can't be traded for like 6 months? Something like the trade exception and EC might work though...

Q Rich was trade 10x's last year, before being in Miami.

But they didn't just offer Q-Rich a contract.

JMac1 · Post #8 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:46 pm

Qwigglez wrote:I have really high hopes for Clark. However, given his disappointing summer league performance thus far, I'm not sure if he is ready to play at the NBA level. I would still decline this trade, mostly because the Suns would have the highest paid bench squad of the NBA for years to come. Warrick straight up for Gortat would be ideal. I want to give Clark another year before I give up on em.

2011

J-Chill joins the starting lineup

2012

Dragic Joins the starting lineup

Dragic/Nova guy
J-Chill/Dudley
Turk/Dudley
Frye/
Lopez/Gortat

That would change according to what FA and draft picks happen over this time. That is a cap friendly team.

sunsfever68 · Post #9 » by **sunsfever68** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:49 pm

We still would be starting Turkolgu at power forward which needs to be addressed first before we get a better member of our already strong bench.

sunsfever68 · Post #10 » by **sunsfever68** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:50 pm

And it's too early to give up on Clark. He has all star potential gotta give him this year and next year before getting rid of him

JMac1 · Post #11 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:53 pm

If we don't make that trade, Grant can't start and Dudley gets squeezed, or we are just super small.

Nash/Dragic
JRich/JChill/Dud
Turk/Grant/Dud
Frye/Warrick
Lopez/Dirty

or this way

Nash/Dragic
JRich/JChill
Hill/Dud
Turk/Warrick Gasol plays that position and Al Jefferson
Lopez/Frye

I guess we play a lot of zone

JMac1 · Post #12 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:59 pm

sunsfever68 wrote:And it's too early to give up on Clark. He has all star potential gotta give him this year and next year before getting rid of him

He doesn't have an all star heart, which means he won't live up to that potential. If your mind isn't right, you are finished!!!

JMac1 · Post #13 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:04 pm

sunsfever68 wrote:We still would be starting Turkolgu at power forward which needs to be addressed first before we get a better member of our already strong bench.

You think.....

DirtyDez · Post #14 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:05 pm

Nash, Dragic
J-Rich, Dudley
Turk, Childress, Hill
Frye, Warrick, Lawal
Lopez, KT/Oberto

I like that lineup if Frye commits to crashing the boards. Positions 1-4 can shoot the 3 which opens up the lane for Nash/Turk. Teams would have trouble defending us but i know, live by the jumper/die by the jumper.

phx#7 · Post #15 » by **phx#7** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:14 pm

Warrick can't be traded until Dec 15th. Gortat is an ok rebounder and not good at anything else, so no way would I give up on Clark for him.

RocPHX · Post #16 » by **RocPHX** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:37 pm

Im still trying to make sense of this warrick signing..

WTFsunsFTW · Post #17 » by **WTFsunsFTW** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:47 pm

Orlando is now way into the tax. If they are Open to trading gortat, they want to give him away. Moving warrick is a bad business move, but he can be traded as long as it's by himself (can't package w clark). However our tpe may be big enough to land him without warrick. But since we are doing Orlando a favor and saving them 12million bucks (double his salary from tax) we better rape them like okc did for us with the KT trade.

If it did go through I don't see grant hill having much opportunity.

Nash/dragic
jrich/childress
Turk/hill/duds
frye/warrick
lopez/gortat

lawal, Clark, Reynolds, Collins

We would have to make a trade. Not enough minutes to go around.
we would have to make a trade.

phx#7 · Post #18 » by **phx#7** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:58 pm

WTFsunsFTW wrote:Moving warrick is a bad business move, but he can be traded as long as it's by himself (can't package w clark).

That's the rule fore recently traded players, not players who signed a new contract. Warrick cannot be traded until Dec 15th.

WTFsunsFTW · Post #19 » by **WTFsunsFTW** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:35 pm

You are correct, got em mixed up.

RocPHX · Post #20 » by **RocPHX** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:04 pm

smh if phx doesn't make some kind of a trade..we have guys who need more minutes but we have to many wings.