Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas

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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#61 » by XxIronChainzxX » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:13 am

Doctor MJ wrote:If the team had not gotten a guy they thought was a future superstar, the obvious thing to do would have been to put Arenas right back in his old role, and look to trade him once he proved himself. Now the question is this: How's Arenas likely to do on a team where he's not only not the focal point, but the focal point is a guy who plays in the same position as Arenas? If there's a strong chance that Arenas isn't going to be able to impress in that secondary role, they're probably better off trading sooner than later.


A bigger issue is how Wall will deal with a man who has hobbies that include taking a dump in the shoes of other players. Can't speak for Wall as a person, but I wouldn't appreciate playing with that sort of person.
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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#62 » by Jazzfan12 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:13 am

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Blame Rasho wrote:I think Arenas might be the most untradeable and undesirable player/contract in the NBA.


I think that belongs to Joe Johnson.



Joe Johnson has played more than 47 games in the last three seasons. Significantly more.
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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#63 » by Wizardspride » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:24 am

Jazzfan12 wrote:
JordansBulls wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:I think Arenas might be the most untradeable and undesirable player/contract in the NBA.


I think that belongs to Joe Johnson.



Joe Johnson has played more than 47 games in the last three seasons. Significantly more.

Still doesn't make him a max player.....

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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#64 » by Silvie Lysandra » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:24 am

XxIronChainzxX wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:

A bigger issue is how Wall will deal with a man who has hobbies that include taking a dump in the shoes of other players. Can't speak for Wall as a person, but I wouldn't appreciate playing with that sort of person.


yeah let's judge a guy based on a stupid rookie hazing prank right? things like that happen in almost EVERY locker room.
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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#65 » by Wizardspride » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:25 am

XxIronChainzxX wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:If the team had not gotten a guy they thought was a future superstar, the obvious thing to do would have been to put Arenas right back in his old role, and look to trade him once he proved himself. Now the question is this: How's Arenas likely to do on a team where he's not only not the focal point, but the focal point is a guy who plays in the same position as Arenas? If there's a strong chance that Arenas isn't going to be able to impress in that secondary role, they're probably better off trading sooner than later.


A bigger issue is how Wall will deal with a man who has hobbies that include taking a dump in the shoes of other players. Can't speak for Wall as a person, but I wouldn't appreciate playing with that sort of person.


As long as he doesn't take a dump in his shoes, I doubt Wall will care very much.
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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#66 » by Jazzfan12 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:28 am

Still doesn't make him a max player.....



No, not close, but JJ and Arenas make the same money. JJ is an all-pro, Arenas misses 65 games a season.
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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#67 » by Wizardspride » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:35 am

Jazzfan12 wrote:
Still doesn't make him a max player.....



No, not close, but JJ and Arenas make the same money. JJ is an all-pro, Arenas misses 65 games a season.

Hopefully, Gil is over his injury issues.

And I sure don't expect a repeat of last year's drama.

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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#68 » by Blame Rasho » Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:20 am

Wizardspride wrote:
Jazzfan12 wrote:
JordansBulls wrote:I think that belongs to Joe Johnson.

Joe Johnson has played more than 47 games in the last three seasons. Significantly more.

Still doesn't make him a max player.....


Yeah... are you two actually trying to win this discussion, or just put names out just for the sake of it?
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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#69 » by timlin500 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:48 am

Niko23 wrote:Why wouldn't we just go after Monta? He is younger, better, and does not try to cap his teammates


Cavs have absolutely no one that the Warriors would want.
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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#70 » by JustAwesome » Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:02 am

I think Varejao would be a good addition to the Warriors front line. His style of play is a nice complement to the scoring perimeter players.
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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#71 » by cdouglas » Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:04 am

I hate it when I hear that the Wiz wants to rid Arenas to keep him from Wall. I don't think the problem is Arenas and from the article I read today, if there's anyone to worry about it's Lebron. Wall is friends w/Lebron.
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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#72 » by tundraknight » Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:12 am

BBPurist wrote:Cavs need to rebuild, period. Arenas is not going to bring Cleveland a championship, but would probably make them good enough to get horrible draft picks for the next few years. Why?


Exactly what I was thinking. The Cavs would be better off stacking up on lottery picks for the next few years.
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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#73 » by timlin500 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:15 am

JustAwesome wrote:I think Varejao would be a good addition to the Warriors front line. His style of play is a nice complement to the scoring perimeter players.


Yea he would be a good player for the Warriors. Let me rephrase then. I meant there is no one on the Cavs that the Warriors would trade Monta for.
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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#74 » by Dupp » Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:20 am

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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#75 » by qm22 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:08 am

XxIronChainzxX wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:If the team had not gotten a guy they thought was a future superstar, the obvious thing to do would have been to put Arenas right back in his old role, and look to trade him once he proved himself. Now the question is this: How's Arenas likely to do on a team where he's not only not the focal point, but the focal point is a guy who plays in the same position as Arenas? If there's a strong chance that Arenas isn't going to be able to impress in that secondary role, they're probably better off trading sooner than later.


A bigger issue is how Wall will deal with a man who has hobbies that include taking a dump in the shoes of other players. Can't speak for Wall as a person, but I wouldn't appreciate playing with that sort of person.


Uh, that was an internet rumor- or do you have a legit source...?
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Re: Bill Simmons believes Cavs should trade for Arenas 

Post#76 » by Dan Z » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:55 am

The Cavs are in a tough spot. On one hand they should rebuild but if they do it'll reinforce the idea that Lebron had a weak supporting cast. On the other hand if they try to compete the chances of a championship are slim to none.

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