If only this were true

KJizzle · Post #1 » by **KJizzle** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:46 pm

[b]The Hawks are silently making moves. Will Shaquille O’Neal become a Hawk?[/b]

The off-season has already been crazy for the NBA, we all know the big moves by Miami. Only, the Hawks are making a splash too, might not be a hour long ESPN special kind-of- splash, but the Hawks are getting into the water.

The Hawks recently signed Joe Johnson to a max contract. Drafted Jordan Crawford, who played his first summer league game shooting 40% from the field, scoring 16 points along with 5 assist. Hawks got rid of the 27-year-old Josh Childress, in exchange for a second round draft pick in 2012. However, Atlanta is not finished yet and still can add some pieces to the pie with some big names. The Hawks, have been talking with three time Finals MVP Shaquille O’Neal. Landing O’Neal may boost the inside, which was clearly lacking against Dwight Howard in last years playoffs. Also, there have been discussions to bring in Carmelo Anthony, who is not getting along with
Denver’s front office and needs a fresh start to his career. Anthony, can provide another scoring option to Johnson, and open the floor for his teammates. Carmelo, Shaq, and Johnson may be the answer against the Heat’s Wade, Bron, and Bosh. We will see how this week, plays out. What we learned so far, that the Hawks are making big time moves getting big time players.

ATL DirtyBird · Post #2 » by **ATL DirtyBird** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:02 pm

^Wait, what?

KJizzle · Post #3 » by **KJizzle** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:17 pm

sorry i don't think its a credible site

http://www.hawktawk.com/2010/07/the-haw ... /#comments

Skar · Post #4 » by **Skar** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:22 pm

That will never happen, Melo to the hawks? wishable thinking.

ATL DirtyBird · Post #5 » by **ATL DirtyBird** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:22 pm

Dont understand why someone would say that there have been discussion to bring Melo here and not have a source or anything.

davefmcl · Post #6 » by **davefmcl** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:33 pm

Sounds too good to be true, but I looked at trade checker and Anthony for Josh and Marvin works: http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5623850

We could then sign Shaq and have

C- Shaq
PF- Horford
SF- Anthony
SG-JJ
PG- Bibby

with Zaza, Evans, Crawford, Crawford and Teague as your bench.

myrak433 · Post #7 » by **myrak433** » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:51 pm

LOL,,, I will believe that only when it happens. and I still would have a hard time believing it.

D21 · Post #8 » by **D21** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:25 am

Hard to believe until it's done, but it's a good example of why we have to keep Marvin and not send him for old veteran like Shaq.
He's a real good add-on especially for a team trading his SF.

One question :
If we could get Billups in the same move by sending Teague+Bibby+filler (and forget our "future" PG) or Crawford as big expiring, would you do it ?

One thing that can create problem is that even with Josh Smith in, I don't know if DEN would still want to pay some Tax, so it's possible they would search a deal that brings up to 4M less than what is sent.

One ATL, they would search for a trade bringing at least 1.5M less to be able to offer Shaq 5M/yr
And if we get less player than sent, it would add a roster spot to fill, so it would need 800k more to keep the 5M offer.

Now, maybe our cheap owners would agree to pay some tax if we'd get Carmelo and Shaq.
So signing Shaq for the Full MLE could not be a problem anymore, and we could get more salaries than what we send, which would be good for DEN.

td00 · Post #9 » by **td00** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:54 am

I agree to keep Marvin for 2 reasons:

1) Shaq is unrestricted and he isn't worth the 2/16M he is looking for.
2) Giving Marvin away in a sign and trade to benefit Shaq and Cleveland leaves us with a hole at the 3.

Now perhaps if Matt Barnes is signed, then that might make more sense to move Marvin. I just think you should be able to use Marvin in another transaction to help improve the roster.

And we have to give Teague the minutes this year if he is ever going to lead this team...he doesn't have to start but he has to play major minutes in the regular season.

davefmcl · Post #10 » by **davefmcl** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:18 pm

"One thing that can create problem is that even with Josh Smith in, I don't know if DEN would still want to pay some Tax, so it's possible they would search a deal that brings up to 4M less than what is sent."

If there were the hold up, maybe we could take back 4 Million in a salary Denver doesn't want?

Also our owners aren't cheap, they are poor. Really too poor to own an NBA team and that is a bigger problem.