Fantasy Trade Thread

radrmd216 · Post #721 » by **radrmd216** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:28 am

Yea, Beasley created more space for Lebron and apparently Wade and Riley didn't like Beasley. Thabeet struggled but not a whole lot could really be expected from him this early in his career. I would like to keep Speights, but I wouldn't let that him be the hold up in a trade.

76ciology · Post #722 » by **76ciology** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:01 am

From what I heard, it was Lebron who didn't like Beasley. Because he looks like Delonte. LOL

BrooklynZoo23 · Post #723 » by **BrooklynZoo23** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:39 am

I just heard this from our local radio station. I find this trade to be interesting. New Orleans trades Chris Paul, and Emeka Okafor. New Orleans receives Andre Iguodala, Spencer Hawes, and Lamar Odom. LA trades Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom. LA receives Chris Paul and Emeka Okafor. Philadelphia trades Andre Iguodala and Spencer Hawes. Philadelphia receives Andrew Bynum. I think it makes sense for all three.
NO starting 5: Hawes/West/Iguodala/Thornton/Collison
Phi starting 5: Bynum/Brand/Young/Turner/Holiday
LA starting 5: Okafor/Gasol/Artest/Bryant/Paul

83SixersRocked · Post #724 » by **83SixersRocked** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:36 am

How does the passing a physical part of that work? Bynum's about to have knee surgery. Is there a standard set of pass/fail items or is some/all of the physical at the discretion of a team?

The trade is scary and I'm not sure whether I like it or not. I think the 6ers should get something else back, even if its a conditional pick or two... from LA to mitigate risk and from NO as a premium for being a facilitator. The 6ers bear all the risk in that trade as stated.

did you hear it as something being discussed or was it just something posed by the station or a caller? WIP?

SJSF · Post #725 » by **SJSF** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:22 pm

Bynum is damaged goods with that knee. No thanks. He has been a walking knee problem for his career.

Post #726 » by **Foshan** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:07 pm

If Iggy/Hawes got Paul... i think we'd cut out LA...

However I would love to get Iggy involved in the CP3 deal to try to pick up some young talent...something like:

NYK: Randolph / Gallinari / Douglas / Curry / Turriaf
NYK: CP3 / Okafor

NOH: CP3 / Okafor
Noh: Iggy / Douglas / J.Smith / Turiaf
Gets Iggy to put with Collison/Thornton/Iggy/West/Aldrich--gets about 7M in immediate savings

PHI: Iggy / JSmith
Phi: Randolph / Gallinari / Curry
We probably only keep one of these young guys in the future... but we could maybe get some value in S&T'ing one... or who knows maybe we keep'm

Jrue/LWill
Turner/Meeks
Young/Gallinari
Brand/Randolph
Hawes/Speights

Post #727 » by **Foshan** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:55 pm

oh, so less exciting, but maybe more realistic:

Kapono/JSmith
Pryzbilla/Fernadez

we move a wing and big for wing and big. Por gets an experienced gun for their playoff run, and a cheap big to back up Oden/Camby/Aldrige... philly clears some big man minutes since Pryz is injured, fernadez could be our 6th/7th man 3pt threat off the bench... probably would have to move LWill

HotSauce77 · Post #728 » by **HotSauce77** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:24 am

Why in the world does Portland give up a SG who can score in bunches and is a good shooter and a solid defensive C who blocks shots and rebounds for a SF whom they don't need with Batum and Matthews on the team, and a C who is a 3 points, and 2 rebounds a game player? They give up 2 rotation players, one of whom is valuable even coming off injury because of Oden's injuries, and get crap? They can and will get better from someone else. Hell, they can get a better offer for Rudy alone. I'd take a first round pick over Smith any day of the week. Let alone giving up Przbilla and his expiring contract.

Post #729 » by **Foshan** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:26 am

I think Por will have a very hard time getting a 1st for Rudy at this point, and Pryz is out for a good chunk of time, who says Smith can't be a hustle guy with more production off the bench? He's a true 7ft'r good athlete who's finally a year removed from a serious injury, so i think he'll have a good season. And Por's been talking about getting mroe 3pt shooting to compliment their roster, Kapono would definately be a spot up threat next to two guys who penetrate at will. /shrug I don't think its that far off, but its all good. You say they get crap... i really don't see much more than that coming back, none of which will likely be around next yr...

HotSauce77 · Post #730 » by **HotSauce77** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:18 pm

They got shooting when they signed Mathews to that fairly obscene contract. If you think we're getting crap back, why would we be making that trade?

Portland gives up an athletic young SG who shot 39% from 3 in 2 seasons in the league and is on his rookie contract and a veteran defensive center who averages close to 8 rebounds and over 1.5 blocks in less than half a game, and they get back a young PF who averages 3 points and 2 rebounds a game and a third string SF?

So again, why does Portland give up a legitimate center for a third string small forward when both have similar contracts and a SG who can shoot 3s and is much younger than Kapono to get Smith, who also has injury problems and never has actually produced?

It's one of those deals that only makes sense for one team, and it's not Portland.

sixerswillrule · Post #731 » by **sixerswillrule** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:09 pm

I think Rudy wants to go back to Europe. Portland doesn't need him but they also don't need Kapono. They have Matthews, Elliot Williams, and Luke Babbit. If they trade Rudy it'll probably be for a big man that's a little better than Smith.

HotSauce77 · Post #732 » by **HotSauce77** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:28 pm

That's exactly right on all counts. Rudy could be a good fit for a team like the Knicks - not sure if they have what Portland would want, but it seems like Portland will either get what they deem equal value for him or would hold onto him this season and then let him go back to Europe at year's end. It's a shame. I think the kid has talent and can be very productive in the right system and on the right team.

youngcrev · Post #733 » by **youngcrev** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:46 pm

I'd do that trade without Rudy if Pryzbilla can play this season.

thaddeusyoungin · Post #734 » by **thaddeusyoungin** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:29 pm

Would any of the teams involved be interested in this deal:

Sixers out- Iggy, Smith
Sixers in- TPE, Jeffries, Budinger, Minnesta's 2011 1st round pick (top 10 protected 2011, unprotected 2012)

Rockets out- Jeffries, Ariza, Budinger
Rockets in- Iggy, Smith

Clippers out- TPE, Minnesota's 2011 1st round pick (top 10 protected 2011, unprotected 2012)
Clippers in- Ariza

Post #735 » by **Foshan** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:33 pm

Jeff/ariz/bud just isn't enough value to land Iggy. No matter what we flip ariza for, its either a lot more incentive or they throw in some major financial relief.

thaddeusyoungin · Post #736 » by **thaddeusyoungin** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:37 pm

Foshan wrote:Jeff/ariz/bud just isn't enough value to land Iggy. No matter what we flip ariza for, its either a lot more incentive or they throw in some major financial relief.

I want more for Iggy too but If Houston's initial offer was Ariza/Jeffries/Hill like SF1976 said then Ariza/Jeffries/Budinger is a step up. I doubt they would give up even more.

Post #737 » by **Foshan** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:51 pm

I agree its a 'better' offer. But still not good enough to get them Iggy... he's more valuable to our team then those peices that come back.

radrmd216 · Post #738 » by **radrmd216** » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:49 pm

I'm not saying the Houston deal is the way to go, but we can't underestimate the value of getting a big salary off the books before a new CBA and getting a high lottery pick by trading Iggy.

I think the Sixers are interested in moving the salary, but while also saying some what competitive in the playoff hunt.

Fans would be more interested in the high lottery pick. The thing with the Sixers is that they can get a high lottery pick in '11 but still possibly be in a playoff hunt in '12.

When judging the value of an Iggy deal the possible scenarios in creates should also factor into the trade.

Post #739 » by **Foshan** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:05 am

I'm actually not super worried about the new cba... i mean, sure having Iggy will bind us a bit, but I don't think its going to be quite as bad as anticipated. for all the fears for this year the cap barely moved.

thaddeusyoungin · Post #740 » by **thaddeusyoungin** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:04 am

I tweaked that last deal I made to make it a little more fair for everyone:

Sixers out- Iggy, Smith, 2011 2nd round pick, Clippers get rights to swap picks with the Sixers in 2011 (top 7 protected)
Sixers in- TPE, Jeffries, Budinger, Minnesota's 2011 1st round pick (top 10 protected 2011, unprotected 2012)

Rockets out- Jeffries, Ariza, Budinger, 2011 1st round pick with NY swap
Rockets in- Iggy, Smith, Sixers 2011 2nd round pick

Clippers out- TPE, Minnesota's 2011 1st round pick (top 10 protected 2011, unprotected 2012)
Clippers in- Ariza, Houston's 2011 1st round pick with NY swap, rights to swap picks with the Sixers in 2011 (top 7 protected)

The way I see it is Minnesota will suck in 2011 and then we get their unprotected pick in 2012. In 2011-2012 they still wont be very good but at least they'll have Rubio and all their young players will have more experience. So let's say that the pick is the #7 pick. So we're trading Iggy, Smith, a 2nd round pick, and giving the Clippers the rights to move up a few spots in the 2011 draft for the #7 pick, Budinger and cap space. With that cap space we can go out and sign someone like Al Horford or Kendrick Perkins next summer.

I just really want to get the Minnesota pick so we could have the chance at getting a high lottery pick.

Unfortunately Ed doesn't have the creativity to dream up this type of trade