Report: Isiah Thomas meeting w/ Knicks Upper Management

[Smoke24]

Wait, hold on....

They have sources for everything else, including what LeBron had for breakfast and what color his **** was, but no one has the faintest idea of what this whole press conference is about and isn't reporting it ad nauseum?...

[syj805]

Our worst fears being realized muhahaha. If he can deliver Paul, great. But at what cost? Gutting the whole damn team or adding more unnecessary salary? Talk about the disastrous moves Isiah made, as the above posters have so astutely listed lol.

[duetta]

But I think things would have gone different if Marbury was never here, if we had a quality PG/team leader like we thought we had. That's my opinion.

Marbury was never a quality leader. He was always a cancer, hated by his teammates. But I-hole thought he could "save" him - and he gave up two #1 picks, and scads of cap room to bring him in. And then he followed that up by importing Fatso.

[kosmovitelli]

They are now saying on the show that the Miami Herald is telling him that FIU is going to have a press conference in an hour... but that the Herald doesnt know what its about yet.

But it would seem that this is exactly what it is about...

FIU will probably say they're disappointed because they gave Isiah another chance while no NBA or College team was willing to offer him a job and Isiah doesn't care about FIU and only cares about getting a job in the NBA. LOL

Seriously if I was FIU athletic director I would be pissed ! He gave Isiah another chance to coach and after only one year, the team made no progress and Isiah wants out !

Isiah Thomas struggles to reshape FIU hoops

Thursday, Feb 11 2010

Thomas was christened the school's basketball savior last April after being dismissed as president and head coach of the New York Knicks in 2008. But in the first three losing games of the Golden Panthers' season, the Hall of Famer's team was outscored 268-191. Its overall record stands at an abysmal 7-19. In the Sun Belt Conference, a middling group of unrated basketball teams, FIU is last in the East Division with a 4-9 tally.

Nor has Thomas's arrival led to a surge in alumni interest or cash. Although FIU has invested more than $55 million in building a new football stadium and upgrading the arena — while cutting back more than $32 million on academics — so far, there's nothing to show for it.

The gridiron Panthers had a dismal year, and the basketball team has averaged a paltry 120 attendees per home game this season. The arena seats 6,000.

[KnicksScholar24]

Some Isiah apologists still breathing I see.

This is what I judge Isiah on:

Seasons W-L
2004–05: 33-49
2005–06: 23-59
2006–07: 33-49
2007–08: 23-59

Players acquired:

Jerome James
Jared Jeffries
Jamison Brewer
Bruno Sundov
Jermaine Jackson
Ime Udoka
Maurice Taylor
Malik Rose
Vin Baker
Zach Randolph
Jamal Crawford
Stephon Marbury
Eddy Curry
Fred Jones
Antonio Davis
Tim Thomas
Cezary Trybanski
Penny Hardaway
Steve Francis
Channing Frye
Renaldo Balkman
Mardy Collins
Demetris Nichols
Jackie Butler
Moochie Norris
Quentin Richardson
Qyntel Woods
Jalen Rose
Kelvin Cato
Randolph Morris
DerMarr Johnson
Nate Robinson

He also brought in David Lee, Wilson Chandler, and Trevor Ariza.

Many of the young players he drafted are solid NBA players (or would have been if given the opportunity to do so): Frye, Balkman, Robinson, Collins. (I think Morris and Udoka are still in the league.) Jeffries is also a solid NBA player, but not for the price/length he was signed for. DerMarr Johnson, Qyntel Woods, and Tim Thomas weren't bad either.

Blaming Isiah Thomas for Demetris Nichols not lasting in the NBA is like blaming Donnie Walsh for Marcus Landry not lasting. A lot of those players you listed were end of the bench players NY signed to see if they could develop them. Some of them were bad contracts type players.

Thomas really Dun Goofed with some of his acquisitions, but about 50-75% of that list weren't good examples.

[dizzy631]

Not buying any of the Isiaih stuff. Won't happen, Dolan's dumb but he isn't that dumb, just trying to boost a buddy's value

[EnigmatiC]

THINK PEOPLE!!! THIS IS THE SAME GUY WHO PUT MARBURY AND FRANCIS IN THE SAME BACKCOURT!!

[Starksfor3]

THINK PEOPLE!!! THIS IS THE SAME GUY WHO PUT MARBURY AND FRANCIS IN THE SAME BACKCOURT!!

AND CURRY AND RANDOLPH IN THE SAME FRONTCOURT!!

[ibraheim718]

isiah already delivered Amar'e as Donnie stated. I would not doubt him being able to deliver Paul. Welcome back Isiah!!!!

STFU and GTFO.... unless you can show me a direct quote saying Isiah delivered Amar'e from Walsh or Amar'e or his agent Happy.

[I am Ra]

THINK PEOPLE!!! THIS IS THE SAME GUY WHO PUT MARBURY AND FRANCIS IN THE SAME BACKCOURT!!

AND CURRY AND RANDOLPH IN THE SAME FRONTCOURT!!

AND QBITCH AT SF!!!

[ibraheim718]

Not buying any of the Isiaih stuff. Won't happen, Dolan's dumb but he isn't that dumb, just trying to boost a buddy's value

Absolutely.... Damn the young are so naive these days. Walsh is in control, has always been in control and as long as he is prez. will always be in control.

It's hilarious that after the whole Free agency debacle that took place that some of you guys are still falling for the same rhetoric.

[Red Vines]

But I think things would have gone different if Marbury was never here, if we had a quality PG/team leader like we thought we had. That's my opinion.

Marbury was never a quality leader. He was always a cancer, hated by his teammates. But I-hole thought he could "save" him - and he gave up two #1 picks, and scads of cap room to bring him in. And then he followed that up by importing Fatso.

Exactly, Isiah's biggest sin was believing in Marbury and he went down with him. I can forgive that, others can't. Curry was one of the best young centers in the NBA & Isiah took a risk--maybe it cost us Tyrus Thomas and Aldridge--but bottom line for me is that if we weren't ALSO stuck with Starbury, we could have still been moving in a positive direction. The dysfunctional atmosphere did not help Curry or anyone else on the team. When you lose, everyone looks bad.

[ibraheim718]

Some Isiah apologists still breathing I see.

This is what I judge Isiah on:

Seasons W-L
2004–05: 33-49
2005–06: 23-59
2006–07: 33-49
2007–08: 23-59

Players acquired:

Jerome James
Jared Jeffries
Jamison Brewer
Bruno Sundov
Jermaine Jackson
Ime Udoka
Maurice Taylor
Malik Rose
Vin Baker
Zach Randolph
Jamal Crawford
Stephon Marbury
Eddy Curry
Fred Jones
Antonio Davis
Tim Thomas
Cezary Trybanski
Penny Hardaway
Steve Francis
Channing Frye
Renaldo Balkman
Mardy Collins
Demetris Nichols
Jackie Butler
Moochie Norris
Quentin Richardson
Qyntel Woods
Jalen Rose
Kelvin Cato
Randolph Morris
DerMarr Johnson
Nate Robinson

He also brought in David Lee, Wilson Chandler, and Trevor Ariza.

Many of the young players he drafted are solid NBA players (or would have been if given the opportunity to do so): Frye, Balkman, Robinson, Collins. (I think Morris and Udoka are still in the league.) Jeffries is also a solid NBA player, but not for the price/length he was signed for. DerMarr Johnson, Qyntel Woods, and Tim Thomas weren't bad either.

Blaming Isiah Thomas for Demetris Nichols not lasting in the NBA is like blaming Donnie Walsh for Marcus Landry not lasting. A lot of those players you listed were end of the bench players NY signed to see if they could develop them. Some of them were bad contracts type players.

Thomas really Dun Goofed with some of his acquisitions, but about 50-75% of that list weren't good examples.

And then traded him for Francis. He also fired 2 HOF coaches(Wilkens,Brown) without having the respect and decency to give them an honest shot.

[Childs2Dudley]

He also brought in David Lee, Wilson Chandler, and Trevor Ariza.

Many of the young players he drafted are solid NBA players (or would have been if given the opportunity to do so): Frye, Balkman, Robinson, Collins. (I think Morris and Udoka are still in the league.) Jeffries is also a solid NBA player, but not for the price/length he was signed for. DerMarr Johnson, Qyntel Woods, and Tim Thomas weren't bad either.

Blaming Isiah Thomas for Demetris Nichols not lasting in the NBA is like blaming Donnie Walsh for Marcus Landry not lasting. A lot of those players you listed were end of the bench players NY signed to see if they could develop them. Some of them were bad contracts type players.

Thomas really Dun Goofed with some of his acquisitions, but about 50-75% of that list weren't good examples.

I really hate it when people try to give Isiah Thomas a break. WHY? What the FUGG did he do here that was so good? He left behind Lee and Chandler. That's it. 5 fugging seasons and he left behind 2 decent to good players while trading away half his draft picks and overpaying the likes of Jeffries, Jerome and Curry. I DO blame him for that list because he acquired those players. Just like when people insulted Walsh for acquiring Roberson and the likes. Isiah signed, traded and drafted those players. Did he have a few good players along the way? Sure, but even a blind squirrel can find a nut.

Isiah's "eye for talent" is severely overrated. What he does have is the impeccable will to lose. He sucks ass now and sucked ass then. He has sucked in everything he has been involved in since his retirement as a player. Pathetic tenure with the Toronto Raptors and the CBA and a mediocre at best tenure with the Indiana Pacers as coach. Then he comes here and sh*ts the bed. Once he's fired he goes to FIU and proceeds to do absolutely nothing to raise their level of play, despite his basketball "genius" and "eye for talent". He is a LOSER since his retirement. I want to win.

And for the record, Frye is still a soft pansy one-dimensional loser and Collins/Balkman are scrubs. Robinson can only get 10 mpg on a good team. Hardly anyone worth mentioning.

Qyntel Woods wasn't bad, eh?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pkw5A_tRXI[/youtube]

No. Isiah gets no pass for me. The proof is in the pudding. He is a failure as an NBA General Manager.

[bklynstoops]

i'm thinking this doesn't make sense.

but if isiah somehow comes back, i know it's irrational, but i'm done. i love the knicks, but there are limits to what i can root for.

[TinyLinny]

He also brought in David Lee, Wilson Chandler, and Trevor Ariza.

Many of the young players he drafted are solid NBA players (or would have been if given the opportunity to do so): Frye, Balkman, Robinson, Collins. (I think Morris and Udoka are still in the league.) Jeffries is also a solid NBA player, but not for the price/length he was signed for. DerMarr Johnson, Qyntel Woods, and Tim Thomas weren't bad either.

Blaming Isiah Thomas for Demetris Nichols not lasting in the NBA is like blaming Donnie Walsh for Marcus Landry not lasting. A lot of those players you listed were end of the bench players NY signed to see if they could develop them. Some of them were bad contracts type players.

Thomas really Dun Goofed with some of his acquisitions, but about 50-75% of that list weren't good examples.

LOL. Calling one-dimensional players "solid" is a joke. Complimenting the likes of Johnson, Woods, and Thomas is even worse. Udoka and Morris? They're both unsigned free agents that will most likely not be on an NBA roster next season.

What exactly makes you a Knicks scholar?

[Dr. Detfink]

As a consultant, I am happy with Isiah Thomas. Hey look, for the scandal he brought on the Knicks he OWES the organization.

[Starksfor3]

He also brought in David Lee, Wilson Chandler, and Trevor Ariza.

Many of the young players he drafted are solid NBA players (or would have been if given the opportunity to do so): Frye, Balkman, Robinson, Collins. (I think Morris and Udoka are still in the league.) Jeffries is also a solid NBA player, but not for the price/length he was signed for. DerMarr Johnson, Qyntel Woods, and Tim Thomas weren't bad either.

Blaming Isiah Thomas for Demetris Nichols not lasting in the NBA is like blaming Donnie Walsh for Marcus Landry not lasting. A lot of those players you listed were end of the bench players NY signed to see if they could develop them. Some of them were bad contracts type players.

Thomas really Dun Goofed with some of his acquisitions, but about 50-75% of that list weren't good examples.

LOL. Calling one-dimensional players "solid" is a joke. Complimenting the likes of Johnson, Woods, and Thomas is even worse. Udoka and Morris? They're both unsigned free agents that will most likely not be on an NBA roster next season.

What exactly makes you a Knicks scholar?

And he seems to love Chandler and hate Gallo....hmm. Could you tell me who was responsible for drafting one and not the other....

[ibraheim718]

The ny media plays to the Knick fans masochist tendencies like a game of cards.

[FinNasty]

The ny media plays to the Knick fans masochist tendencies like a game of cards.

This isnt the NY media...

This is LeBatard from the Miami Herald...