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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#121 » by Ruzious » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:56 pm

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Hoopalotta wrote:One factoid of dubious utility:

Over the last two seasons, Vinny Del Negro would constantly refer to Kirk Hinrich as "Kurt". This was particularly sweet as he'd do it while complimenting him and voicing how integral to overall operations he was, what a good example he set, his leadership, his tradition with the franchise, his selflessness and so on. He was so important that it was almost worth getting his name right. Almost.

I have taken this to mean that we should carry on with that model and work very liberal interpretations of his name throughout the season.

Kirby. Kurt. Kurtis. Etc.

Heinzerlick. Hinriki. Hienker. Etc.

There is no wrong here, just various forms of right.

I have nothing else to offer at this time.

Kertchup Heinzrich. Is number 51 available?

The Zards relish his leadership.

My condiments to the chef?

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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#122 » by Benjammin » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:15 pm

I posted this in the free agency thread, but I wanted to also put it here for feedback.



By my count, Shaq and Josh Howard are the last "bigger name" free agents out there. As time goes on, do people think the Wizards have an increasingly good chance to re-sign Howard for a reasonable 1 or 2 year deal? If he can come back healthy, I think it would be a good move to make. The alternative is to sign someone like Cartier Martin for much less, but Howard might help to hasten Wall's development and take some of the scoring load off Gil and Blatche.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#123 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:55 pm

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nate33 wrote:I love Singleton but he's redundant with Booker. Our need for another spot-up-shooter swing man is much greater than our need for another "crash SF". If we bring back Singleton, it'll only be after we bring back Cartier Martin (or an equivalent jump-shooting 2/3).

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Could happen that way. But with GA, NY and Kirk playing SG, what kind of minutes would Martin get?
Having him available for call up is good enough in my book.

Singleton while redundant to Booker is a great veteran presence and he is tough. Something this team needs. Booker may or may not have a smooth transition. He may foul a lot. I would feel more comfortable with Singleton on the team to help mold it. If Booker proves he is that good that the is reliable in that slot, then let him earn it. You then can make Singleton inactive and bring on whoever is needed.

Singletons presence should not be underestimate on such a young team.


Excellent post. At this point I'd sign Singleton, Martin and Hudson and call it a day... This team certainly won't contend for an Ecf slot... But has lots of intrchangeable, speedy parts and could be fun to watch... The other thing it is likely to have is excellent chemistry. My biggest concern is the flipster... Not so sure he's such a great teacher of the game and last year he sucked out loud at managing personalities. I'd have a very short leash on him.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#124 » by Kanyewest » Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:45 am

Kirk Hinrich = Frodo.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#125 » by Hoopalotta » Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:18 am

This sounds like good news to me:

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@Shamsports Washington Wizards rescinded Cedric Jackson's qualifying offer, but not Cartier Martin's.


Qualifying offers can be rescinded without needing a player's permission up until today. After today, the player must give their consent.

This is another sign that the Wizards are considering keeping Martin. Basically, the qualifying offer allows the team to match any contract offered by another team to Martin. If no contract is offered, Martin can play out next season at his qualifying offer and become an unrestricted free agent in 2011.


http://www.bulletsforever.com/

Honestly, I didn't even realize that we were in position for an actual QO on Martin, I thought he was just sort of floating around.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#126 » by bsilver » Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:38 pm

Guard:
1) Wall
2) Arenas
3) Hinrich
4) Young
5) Lester Hudson - Loved your game in Las Vegas. Just what we need for a change of pace fullcourt press.
Foward:
6) Thornton
7) Booker - Wished you showed that you could at least rebound. Maybe you're better off in D-league where you'll get some minutes.
8) Blache
9) Yi
10) Singleton - Prefer you to Yi as the backup PF, but I don't get a vote.
11) Howard - Sign already! We need you and your options are dwindling.
Center:
12) McGee
13) Seraphim - Get over here! Six hard fouls needed now, and hopefully you can actually play defense.
14) N'daye - If you weren't drafted, and weren't such a good guy to have around, you'd be a long shot. Have fun in Sioux Falls.
15) Armstrong - Go Peekskill HS basketball!

Sorry, Cartier - really don't see what you add.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#127 » by nate33 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:46 pm

bsilver wrote:Sorry, Cartier - really don't see what you add.

Cartier is a swingman who can play SG or SF. Basically, he'd be our only SF with a quality catch-and-shoot game from the 3-point line. There might actually be non-garbage-time situations where we could use a weapon like that.

Lester Hudson is the guy who doesn't really add anything. He would get zero minutes behind Arenas, Young and Hinrich at the SG position. I wouldn't mind keeping him as a 13th or 14th man who would make it on the active roster if there's an injury, but I see no need for him at all when we're healthy.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#128 » by pancakes3 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:01 pm

at the end of the day, cartier/hudson are both marginal moves anyway. the big question is who is going to be our SF. the FO keeps saying they're not done making moves and yet... the rumor mill has grinded to a halt. thornton is serviceable enough, but the depth is weak. I don't think booker will pan out. he's not rough enough to be a bruiser, and not skilled enough to play on the perimeter. booker's essentially a poor man's al thornton who is already a poor man's josh howard, who in turn is a poor man's 'melo. that simply won't cut it.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#129 » by bsilver » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:20 pm

"at the end of the day, cartier/hudson are both marginal moves anyway. the big question is who is going to be our SF"
Can't disagree with the "marginal". I just have a preference for the hard-nosed defender type, rather than the jump shooter. But there seemed to be a big decrease in the team's play when Thornton took over for Howard. For Howard's 5 games, the team played with more energy and consistency. They were just better. With Howard and a healthy team, we should make the playoffs.
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Post#130 » by KennyGreen » Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:17 pm

Hope the last 3 signings to bring us to 15 players are Martin, Hudson and Singleton...three guys who are going to hustle and play roles at very reasonable salaries...Pass on Howard due to injury and price...
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#131 » by doclinkin » Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:11 pm

Personally I like having the last couple spots open as audition spots for hustle players and injury fill-ins. Whether 10-day contract call-ups from the D-League testing our diamonds in the rough, or non-guaranteed roster spots from the best of our training camp workers.

I like Lester Hudson, Martin is okay, Singleton puts in the work, but Alonzo Gee was a revelation and Shawn Livingston would have been nice to keep. Frankly, I want an entire minor league team, but if we use the D-League for that purpose, I'm good.
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Post#132 » by verbal8 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:20 am

I hope Martin and Singleton are added to the team. I think the last roster spot would be a good spot to rotate in promising D-Leaguers.
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Post#133 » by KennyGreen » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:35 pm

verbal8 wrote:I hope Martin and Singleton are added to the team. I think the last roster spot would be a good spot to rotate in promising D-Leaguers.


Isn't Lester Hudson essentially a promising D-leaguer?
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Post#134 » by GhostsOfGil » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:56 pm

ya at this point we need to either sign martin or howard. without either of them there just arnt enough shooters to space the floor with gilbert and wall playing the backcourt.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#135 » by Benjammin » Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:27 pm

Although Alonzo Gee had a very good summer league run, there are rumblings that he may not make the Spurs... http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/07/ ... er-league/

I think it's more likely than not he will make the Spurs, even if he has to spend more time in the D-league. But I would certainly keep tabs on him and if another chance to get him opens up, to take advantage of it if the Wizards have a roster spot available.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#136 » by WizStorm » Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:36 am

After the Josh Howard signing, here's an updated look at opening day (assuming Josh is ready to go off the bat)...
PG: John Wall
G: Gilbert Arenas
SF: Josh Howard
F/C: Andray Blatche
C: JaVale McGee

Bench:
G: Kirk Hinrich
G/F: Nick Young
F: Al Thornton
F: Trevor Booker
F/C: Yi Jianlian
F/C: Kevin Seraphin
F/C: Hilton Armstrong

Reserve:
C: Hamady Ndiaye (NBDL)
PG: OPEN (or Lester Hudson)
G/F: OPEN (or Cartier Martin)

About the only question left in my mind is if Seraphin or Booker aren't NBA ready and need some NBDL seasoning, I could see an opening for James Singleton.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#137 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:53 am

I'd pencil in Martin and Hudson, sign Singleton, cut Ndyae and call it a day. I'll buy tix to see that team (or some 12 man combination thereof) play.
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Post#138 » by Three34 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:19 am

Seraphin has signed his rookie contract. Did so a while ago actually.
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Post#139 » by doclinkin » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:38 am

Sham wrote:Seraphin has signed his rookie contract. Did so a while ago actually.


The quote the Ambassador of Kwon: 'Show me the money'. I don't see the Shamsalaries update yet.
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Post#140 » by hands11 » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:44 am

hands11 wrote:Hmm, lets count heads.

Wall, Kirk
Gil, Nick
AT, Booker,
Dray, Yi
McGee, Hilton, Seraphin ?

Hamady making the 12 man, may have something to do with if we get Seraphin here. Maybe not. Seems like if Seraphin is here, there would be a very low chance he makes the 12 team. Without Seraphin, slightly better chance. I see him in D League hopefully because Seraphin is here.

So do you bring back Singleton or Martin if Seraphin is here. With those two as cheap options, it seems less likely we bring back Howard. I'm thinking Singleton since he is so tough and a hard worker and can play some PF and you don't have to play him and he would be ok, but when he did, he would ball. We are still weak in vet experience strong tough post players. Since Kirk can back up the 2 if needed and Nick could play some SF there is less of a need for Martin though he can be in the D league ready to be called up. Singleton would be a good vet to go along with Booker to teach him the ropes.

So the easy additions would be
Singleton
Martin
Howard


Wall 6-4, Kirk 6-3
Gil 6-4, Nick 6-7
AT 6-8, Singleton 6-8, Booker 6-7
Dray 6-11, Yi 7-0
McGee 7-1, Hilton 6-11, Seraphin 6-9

Plenty of muscle at the SF to defend a LaBron type.

Actually, I think I like the roster like that. Sign Singleton. He has proven himself to Flip. I like the continuity of keeping him from last year. We need another vet to round out this team. And the guy is all heart and grit. Just a tough dude. That is a pretty tall, long, young, athletic team right there. I could see some Ws coming out of that group. Hilton better be hitting the Beefcake2000 though. 235 isn't enough in the trunk. I want to see 245.


Well, we plucked Howard from the list. I wouldn't be surprised if we signed the other two also. Howard won't be ready to start the season. I think we sign Singleton and keep Martin in the wings.


So the easy additions would be
Singleton
Martin
Howard

Wall 6-4 195, Kirk 6-3 190
Gil 6-4 215, Nick 6-7 212 ( Nick added 7 pounds of muscle still a little light though)
AT 6-8 235, Singleton 6-8 230, Booker 6-7 240 ( J Howard when ready 6-7 210 )
Dray 6-11 260, Yi 7-0 250
McGee 7-1 250, Seraphin 6-10 1/2 260-265, Hilton 6-11 235

Plenty of muscle at the SF to defend a LaBron/Melo type.
Nick and Booker to throw at a Kobe and Wade. Even Singleton could give some fouls/effort.
Dray vs Dirk works for me. Hilton to give us another set of fouls.
Wall and Kirk will lock down all the PGs.
Seraphin is the one I'll be pulling for to stop the strong centers. We need a lot from this kid.

D League
Hamdey 7-0 235
Martin 6-7 220

Nick may need to hit the weight a little more though. Kobe is only 6-6 205 but Wade is 2-4 240. I want like to see Nick at at least 220. Kirk is a little light in the shorts also. Another 5 lbs if it doesn't slow him down would be good.

Durrant is a tough make up. 6-10 220 SF/SG but we have bodies. Maybe Booker can bother him.

I look for Seraphin to take McGee starting job unless he steps it up and learns to play post defense. Not holding my breath. I would rather start a defensive center then bring in an offensive one against the second unit. Plus, Seraphin my have some post moves. McGee would be our Birdman as he was slatted to be last year.

I really like that team. Best I can remember us having since Nash but together that team with Webber and Wallace. To bad they never to to do much together because of injury.

This team could end up being special. Bring on LaQueen

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