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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#101 » by alucryts » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:06 pm

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Guess you're not. Glad you tested Rose on the IQ test. I had been wondering for awhile if he could be a rocket scientist after basketball. I don't care much if he can do simple math. He's a player. Not going to get baited into this stupid argument with you. You're really not worth it.


Go and find a bball forum from 2000 and find what they say about Steve Francis. Same stuff. I know its not a nice thing to say but you have to have a certain level of intelligence to reach the upper echelon of PG's and Rose just doesn't have it. I'm not trying to make you angry I just don't know how else to put it.

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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#102 » by Cliff Levingston » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:10 pm

DanielBoone wrote:Rose will never approach double digit assists, dude can't read a book let alone a defense.

Why sugar coat it? Just call him (Please Use More Appropriate Word). We all know Derrick Rose is (Please Use More Appropriate Word).
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#103 » by Three34 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:11 pm

Rose is flat out bad on defense man. You disagree on that too?


He's not "flat out bad" on defense. He's just not very good. His athleticism allows him to get away with some of his bad habits. And he's improved at it since he entered the league, and should continue to do so. It is an obvious and significant flaw of his, but it is improving.

You still haven't addressed the issue of how you feel Steve Francis's ball-dominant, ball-stopping ways compare to Rose.
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#104 » by Jvaughn » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:14 pm

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Go and find a bball forum from 2000 and find what they say about Steve Francis. Same stuff. I know its not a nice thing to say but you have to have a certain level of intelligence to reach the upper echelon of PG's and Rose just doesn't have it. I'm not trying to make you angry I just don't know how else to put it.


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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#105 » by DanielBoone » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:33 pm

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DanielBoone wrote:Rose will never approach double digit assists, dude can't read a book let alone a defense.

Why sugar coat it? Just call him (Please Use More Appropriate Word). We all know Derrick Rose is (Please Use More Appropriate Word).


I really shouldn't have brought it up because his academic record really speaks for itself. Some people don't seem to think innate intelligence is a factor in becoming a great point guard or don't think it should be brought up, I don't see what the big deal is. Hell my favorite player Gerald Wallace is dumb too and I have major fears about what we do when he is a free agent at 30 years old looking for a max deal.
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#106 » by juice4080 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:36 pm

he's a undersized 2 like monta is, not much better...he"ll get exposed in due time...the most overrated player in the league currently
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#107 » by bullsnewdynasty » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:42 pm

juice4080 wrote:he's a undersized 2 like monta is, not much better...he"ll get exposed in due time...the most overrated player in the league currently


Nice contribution to the thread. Bunch of hate but no legit arguments. Come back when Monta Ellis leads his team to the playoffs. Guess you won't be because he won't be in the playoffs anytime soon.
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#108 » by Grime_Wizard » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:43 pm

All you guys are a bunch of haters, this season you will see how good Rose is. Before his team sucked and the only play they ran was Rose going 1 on 5. Now with more weapons and Thibs, i expect Rose to have 20 pts and 8assists, then all the hate will wash away as the hometown heroe wins a ring.
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#109 » by Jvaughn » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:44 pm

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juice4080 wrote:he's a undersized 2 like monta is, not much better...he"ll get exposed in due time...the most overrated player in the league currently


Nice contribution to the thread. Bunch of hate but no legit arguments. Come back when Monta Ellis leads his team to the playoffs. Guess you won't be because he won't be in the playoffs anytime soon.


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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#110 » by Cliff Levingston » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:46 pm

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DanielBoone wrote:Rose will never approach double digit assists, dude can't read a book let alone a defense.

Why sugar coat it? Just call him (Please Use More Appropriate Word). We all know Derrick Rose is (Please Use More Appropriate Word).


I really shouldn't have brought it up because his academic record really speaks for itself. Some people don't seem to think innate intelligence is a factor in becoming a great point guard or don't think it should be brought up, I don't see what the big deal is. Hell my favorite player Gerald Wallace is dumb too and I have major fears about what we do when he is a free agent at 30 years old looking for a max deal.

So we agree: Derrick Rose is (Please Use More Appropriate Word).

Pretty impressive for a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) guy to make the all-star team though. Also, Rose is probably the first (Please Use More Appropriate Word) point guard on Team USA for the World Championships, though Cliff Levingston hasn't checked the records to see if any other retards have participated in the World Championships.

What's most surprising is that Cliff Levingston thought Coach K knew his stuff. The guy's won national championships and is one of the most respected basketball coaches in the world, and still, he's stupid enough to play Derrick Rose as point guard, even giving him praise for his performance?!

Although Kevin Durant led the White team to a 114-96 victory against the Blue Squad with 28 points, it was Rose who garnered the most ‘oohs’ and ‘aahs’ from the 11,635 fans at the Thomas & Mack Center.

Rose, the Chicago Bulls point guard playing for the white squad, scored 15 points with eight assists, five steals and no turnovers.

“Derrick just played a beautiful game,” Team USA coach Mike Krzyzewski said.

“It was easy playing with him tonight because he gave the ball in rhythm.”

Rose spent the evening weaving in and out of the lane using his trademark crossover and setting up teammates with open shots on the perimeter. The white team went 14-for-29 from three.

Near the end of the first half, Rose threw down the biggest dunk of the night when he found himself alone on a fast break. The momentum from the slam nearly carried him into the laps of fans with baseline seats.

Nothing changed in the second half. Rose fed Durant for a dunk when the two got out in front of the defense in transition. Rose then stole an inbounds pass to set up a Tyson Chandler three-point play.

“It wasn’t just about me,” Rose said. “You’ve got to have trust, especially on the defensive end. That’s what I was doing — clogging the passing lanes and trying to get to the ball knowing my teammates had my back.”

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It's a bit dis-heartening to see Coach K wanting to play a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) shooting guard as his point guard at the World Championships. If we lose there, then Cliff Levingston will be upset especially when we could've had real point guards like Luke Ridnour or Jason Williams instead.
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#111 » by DanielBoone » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:49 pm

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Pretty impressive for a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) guy to make the all-star team though. Also, Rose is probably the first (Please Use More Appropriate Word) point guard on Team USA for the World Championships, though Cliff Levingston hasn't checked the records to see if any other retards have participated in the World Championships.


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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#112 » by Esohny » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:50 pm

Well, the OP could have spent 5 minutes looking at stats, or you know...watched a game.

Could have avoided 8 pages of this stuff.
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#113 » by alucryts » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:51 pm

lmao cliff levingston has a point
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#114 » by juice4080 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:51 pm

just cuz i don't agree with you rose's balls washers doesn't mean im a hater i just don't understand the hype that's it...he's a very good scorer with a underrated mid range game but in term of pg skills i fail to see any...an undersized 2 is what he is
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#115 » by Cliff Levingston » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:53 pm

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Pretty impressive for a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) guy to make the all-star team though. Also, Rose is probably the first (Please Use More Appropriate Word) point guard on Team USA for the World Championships, though Cliff Levingston hasn't checked the records to see if any other retards have participated in the World Championships.


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Oh, that sucks. As if we didn't know before that Derrick Rose is a pretty bad basketball player, that about proves it.

Maybe the Lakers would take Derrick Rose back for Sasha Vujacic? Probably not though, cause they already have a pretty good shooting guard in Kobe Bryant and thus won't need another one.
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#116 » by Jvaughn » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:53 pm

juice4080 wrote:just cuz i don't agree with you rose's balls washers doesn't mean im a hater i just don't understand the hype that's it...he's a very good scorer with a underrated mid range game but in term of pg skills i fail to see any...an undersized 2 is what he is


Our point is you come in here, take shots at him, for not being the type of PG you want, but you bring now evidence, statistical or otherwise to prove that point. Therefore your arguments hold no water and come off as a hater.
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#117 » by alucryts » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:54 pm

juice4080 wrote:just cuz i don't agree with you rose's balls washers doesn't mean im a hater i just don't understand the hype that's it...he's a very good scorer with a underrated mid range game but in term of pg skills i fail to see any...an undersized 2 is what he is

pg skills dont solely consist of assist numbers, youd have to watch the games to see anything other than assists.
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#118 » by DanielBoone » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:56 pm

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Pretty impressive for a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) guy to make the all-star team though. Also, Rose is probably the first (Please Use More Appropriate Word) point guard on Team USA for the World Championships, though Cliff Levingston hasn't checked the records to see if any other retards have participated in the World Championships.


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Oh, that sucks. As if we didn't know before that Derrick Rose is a pretty bad basketball player, that about proves it.

Maybe the Lakers would take Derrick Rose back for Sasha Vujacic? Probably not though, cause they already have a pretty good shooting guard in Kobe Bryant and thus won't need another one.


Talk like that is where you give yourself away as an emotional fanboy. Just because not all of us think Derrick Rose is the next HOF point guard doesn't mean we are haters. I think he will be good, not great, and fade out quickly. Just like Steve Francis. Just because Bulls homers think he will be the GOAT doesn't mean everyone who doesn't think that way is a hater. :roll:
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#119 » by Jvaughn » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:58 pm

We can end a lot of the madness with this: If you are coming onto this thread with only the knowledge of Rose's stat sheet, and have not actually watched more than a handful of Bulls games, just don't bother posting. Most likely you'll be wrong, and will look like a hater.
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Re: Prove to me Derrick Rose is Good. 

Post#120 » by yattydaddy » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:58 pm

Esohny wrote:Well, the OP could have spent 5 minutes looking at stats, or you know...watched a game.

Could have avoided 8 pages of this stuff.
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