Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread

[silverhill27]

i still think this makes the most sense.

To Toronto:
Mike Dunleavy $10,561,984
Jeff Foster $6,655,000
= 17,306,984

To Indiana:
Jose Calderon $9,000,000
Reggie Evans $5,080,000
* Trade Exception (3,226,984)
= 14,080,000

IND gets further away from tax.

Jack / Barbosa / Banks
Derozan / Weems / Belinelli
Klezia / Dunleavy
Davis / Johnson / Dorsey
Bargnani / Foster / Alabi

so so for next year but wed have 24 million in committed salaries. Id start by offering Horford a very high offer that ATL wouldnt match. Or Marc Gasol, Noah, Oden ect.

Makes sense to the Raps, not so much the Pacers. They want to be big players in free agency next year and giving Raps significant cap room next year doesn't make sense for them.

[Rapsobsessed7]

i still think this makes the most sense.

To Toronto:
Mike Dunleavy $10,561,984
Jeff Foster $6,655,000
= 17,306,984

To Indiana:
Jose Calderon $9,000,000
Reggie Evans $5,080,000
* Trade Exception (3,226,984)
= 14,080,000

IND gets further away from tax.

Jack / Barbosa / Banks
Derozan / Weems / Belinelli
Klezia / Dunleavy
Davis / Johnson / Dorsey
Bargnani / Foster / Alabi

so so for next year but wed have 24 million in committed salaries. Id start by offering Horford a very high offer that ATL wouldnt match. Or Marc Gasol, Noah, Oden ect.

Makes sense to the Raps, not so much the Pacers. They want to be big players in free agency next year and giving Raps significant cap room next year doesn't make sense for them.

still have max cap room after this deal and they inch further away from the tax this year (currently at 67 million) to make deals/sign FA. They would have max cap room + 6-7 million still.

Committed salaries for Pacers in 2011/2012 = 34 million (with Calderon, 25 without him) + 1st round pick. So they would have about 20 million still in cap space.

[pspot]

i still think this makes the most sense.

To Toronto:
Mike Dunleavy $10,561,984
Jeff Foster $6,655,000
= 17,306,984

To Indiana:
Jose Calderon $9,000,000
Reggie Evans $5,080,000
* Trade Exception (3,226,984)
= 14,080,000

IND gets further away from tax.

Jack / Barbosa / Banks
Derozan / Weems / Belinelli
Klezia / Dunleavy
Davis / Johnson / Dorsey
Bargnani / Foster / Alabi

so so for next year but wed have 24 million in committed salaries. Id start by offering Horford a very high offer that ATL wouldnt match. Or Marc Gasol, Noah, Oden ect.

Makes sense to the Raps, not so much the Pacers. They want to be big players in free agency next year and giving Raps significant cap room next year doesn't make sense for them.

still have max cap room after this deal and they inch further away from the tax this year (currently at 67 million) to make deals/sign FA. They would have max cap room + 6-7 million still.

Committed salaries for Pacers in 2011/2012 = 34 million (with Calderon, 25 without him) + 1st round pick. So they would have about 20 million still in cap space.

How does Jose compare to the available FA PGs next summer?

seems like the top ones are Stuckey, Conley and Brooks

Assuming Houston keeps Brooks and chances of Stuckey hitting the market are probably 50% at best. so Calderon would be a decent option

[silverhill27]

still have max cap room after this deal and they inch further away from the tax this year (currently at 67 million) to make deals/sign FA. They would have max cap room + 6-7 million still.

Committed salaries for Pacers in 2011/2012 = 34 million + 1st round pick. So they would have about 20 million still in cap space.

Or they could have 28 mill in capspace and get a better point guard than Jose through free agency or trade and have room to big contracts to Horford, Oden (from Indiana) without having to worry about competition in the market from Toronto. Indiana isn't looking to make the playoffs this year, they are under the tax (around 70 million) so they aren't exactly going to be making lots of trades and signings unless it clears them more cap room for next year. Ford and Price are fine as stop gaps, and who knows maybe they draft Irving or Knight.

[toronto_raptors]

Can we get Thaddeus Young on this team somehow. I think he would be a great addition to the young guns. With the 76ers drafting Turner and having Iggy and Andres Nocioni, I don't think Young would be the odd man out. Maybe something like

Belinelli+Dorsey

for

Thaddeus Young

We get our starting SF while they get a shooter and some big man depth.

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.ph ... id=5648239

[pspot]

Belinelli for Ajinca came up on the trade board.

Thought it was an interesting idea. not the legit vet C but would add another promising young shotblocking 7' . Gives an opportunity to Alabi and Ajinca opportunity to play

[Rapsobsessed7]

Conley and Stuckey are restricted so it would be tough for them to get that PG. No rookie PG is going to come in and really start right away unless your John Wall esq. I can see this.

Calderon / PG (Draft)
George / Rush
Granger / FA
Hansbrough
Hibbert

+ they throw cap space at FAs

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

If BC wants to get a speedy, athletic PG to run his uptempo attack, Mike Conley seems to be available. And the thing with Conley, is that he's in a contract year - maybe we can get him to agree to a contract extension if he proves to be worth it. Same thing applies to Thaddeus Young if we get him. We're basically leveraging the CBA against them, adding more incentive for them to sign contracts now, rather than later.

And by the time you know it, we've formed a potential core of players to build around, who we've secured for the forseeable future, when you talk about Thad Young, Mike Conley, and DeMar DeRozan. Add in Bargnani, Amir Johnson, and possibly Sonny Weems, too. Not bad.

Here's the deal with Conley - he came into the league as a one-and-done 19 yr. old PG, after leading Ohio St. along with Oden to the Final Four championship game. So it has taken a little bit of time for his game to come together. I mean, the guy is only 22 yrs. old. He's worth the investment imo, as is Julian Wright, Corey Brewer, and Thad Young, all of whom apparently could be had, and can be secured for multiple years if we choose to do so.

Just thought I'd share that here. Didn't want to create another thread for it.

[EelamBaller]

brandon knight clip:
[youtube]http://www.nbadraft.net/players/brandon-knight[/youtube]

Draft a guard. buy a big.

Imagine BC's able to buy Oden..

Oden / Davis
Bargnani / Amir
Kleiza / Weems
Derozan / Marco
Knight / Jack

[EelamBaller]

Conley and Stuckey are restricted so it would be tough for them to get that PG. No rookie PG is going to come in and really start right away unless your John Wall esq. I can see this.

Calderon / PG (Draft)
George / Rush
Granger / FA
Hansbrough
Hibbert

+ they throw cap space at FAs

I really liked your other idea. Buy a center in the FA's next year. and draft a guard.

but how likely is it that portland would let oden loose?

[Rapsobsessed7]

do we trade Jose or keep him? I mean right now we have a rotation of.

Jack / Calderon / Banks
Derozan / Barbosa / Belinelli
Klezia / Weems
Johnson / Davis / Dorsey
Bargnani / Evans / Alabi

seems pretty complete outside of one aspect and thats backup C. I dont see anything else other than that wrong with this lineup. Maybe a starting C using Banks + Evans expiring is the only option out there because potential Calderon suitors are.

Atlanta
Detroit
Indiana
Charlotte
Memphis

and do any of those teams even want him? Thats why i think we should just look at a starting C using the expiring and that is it.

[Ducksplatt]

do we trade Jose or keep him? I mean right now we have a rotation of.

Jack / Calderon / Banks
Derozan / Barbosa / Belinelli
Klezia / Weems
Johnson / Davis / Dorsey
Bargnani / Evans / Alabi

seems pretty complete outside of one aspect and thats backup C. I dont see anything else other than that wrong with this lineup. Maybe a starting C using Banks + Evans expiring is the only option out there because potential Calderon suitors are.

Atlanta
Detroit
Indiana
Charlotte
Memphis

and do any of those teams even want him? Thats why i think we should just look at a starting C using the expiring and that is it.

I agree. Maybe Jose will come back a little more healthier this season and be able to put up some better numbers like he did in the past. He is pretty much at his lowest right now so there is no use moving him if we are getting bad pieces back.

Though, I did try one more trade with him. 3 way with Portland and Memphis though we do not get Conley:

Tor:
Out: Jose
In: Haddadi, Miller

Why for Toronto. Move 3 years of Jose for an expiring in Miller. Haddadi is a prospect C who has some size. But the real reason is to dump Jose so Toronto can be players in next year's free agent market. Wouldn't it be ironic if Raps offer M. Gasol lots of money to come here.

Memphis:
Out: Conley, Haddadi, D Carroll
In: Jose

Why for Memphis. Get an experienced PG that knows how to lob it into a PF (Zach). Could possibly help sign Gasol to a long-term as he is due for a big contract next year.

Portland
Out: Miller
In: Conley, Carroll

Why for Portland:
Re-unite Conley and Oden. Conley played his best BB when he was with Oden. Get rid of Miller who obviously does not fit with their coach/style. Caroll is just to make salaries match.

Not sure if Memphis wants to give up 3 players for Jose but I had to include all 3 to make it work in the trade machine.
I would like to include Hasheem but I cannot see Memphis giving up this early with him.

I could see Thabeet being included to Toronto but I would see someone like Ed Davis going back (to replace Zach if he asks for too much). Not sure if TO wants to give up on Ed Davis yet though.

[Rapsobsessed7]

do we trade Jose or keep him? I mean right now we have a rotation of.

Jack / Calderon / Banks
Derozan / Barbosa / Belinelli
Klezia / Weems
Johnson / Davis / Dorsey
Bargnani / Evans / Alabi

seems pretty complete outside of one aspect and thats backup C. I dont see anything else other than that wrong with this lineup. Maybe a starting C using Banks + Evans expiring is the only option out there because potential Calderon suitors are.

Atlanta
Detroit
Indiana
Charlotte
Memphis

and do any of those teams even want him? Thats why i think we should just look at a starting C using the expiring and that is it.

I agree. Maybe Jose will come back a little more healthier this season and be able to put up some better numbers like he did in the past. He is pretty much at his lowest right now so there is no use moving him if we are getting bad pieces back.

Though, I did try one more trade with him. 3 way with Portland and Memphis though we do not get Conley:

Tor:
Out: Jose
In: Haddadi, Miller

Why for Toronto. Move 3 years of Jose for an expiring in Miller. Haddadi is a prospect C who has some size. But the real reason is to dump Jose so Toronto can be players in next year's free agent market. Wouldn't it be ironic if Raps offer M. Gasol lots of money to come here.

Memphis:
Out: Conley, Haddadi, D Carroll
In: Jose

Why for Memphis. Get an experienced PG that knows how to lob it into a PF (Zach). Could possibly help sign Gasol to a long-term as he is due for a big contract next year.

Portland
Out: Miller
In: Conley, Carroll

Why for Portland:
Re-unite Conley and Oden. Conley played his best BB when he was with Oden. Get rid of Miller who obviously does not fit with their coach/style. Caroll is just to make salaries match.

Not sure if Memphis wants to give up 3 players for Jose but I had to include all 3 to make it work in the trade machine.
I would like to include Hasheem but I cannot see Memphis giving up this early with him.

I could see Thabeet being included to Toronto but I would see someone like Ed Davis going back (to replace Zach if he asks for too much). Not sure if TO wants to give up on Ed Davis yet though.

id take Conley then. No need to have the 34 Miller over the 22 year old Conley.

ideally id want a Conley + Thabeet for Calderon + Miami Pick + 3 million cash deal.

[Ducksplatt]

^^ Yes, I would like Conley and Thabeet also but I don't see Memphis doing that deal. That is way too much in favor for Toronto. And it would be a PR nightmare for Memphis to give up their #2 that quickly (even Beasley lasted longer in Miami). Maybe if we put in Ed Davis going the other way (which most people on the board would probably not like to see).
I still would take an expiring Miller than 3 more years of Jose.

...but hey, if Memphis wanted to do your deal, I am all for it.

[Rapsobsessed7]

here.

Jose Calderon + Reggie Evans + Miami Pick for Baron Davis + Wolves Pick (top 10 protected)

Davis / Jack / Banks
Derozan / Barbosa / Belinelli
Klezia / Weems
Johnson / Davis / Dorsey
Bargnani / Andersen / Alabi

so we likely get a higher pick in 2012, Clips save money we take barons contract who can run and gun with our team.

[douggood]

here.

Jose Calderon + Reggie Evans + Miami Pick for Baron Davis + Wolves Pick (top 10 protected)

Davis / Jack / Banks
Derozan / Barbosa / Belinelli
Klezia / Weems
Johnson / Davis / Dorsey
Bargnani / Andersen / Alabi

so we likely get a higher pick in 2012, Clips save money we take barons contract who can run and gun with our team.

i like the trade although i dont think the clippers give up that wolves pick this easily. that pick is unprotected starting 2012.

[Snooch]

Rudy to chicago for james johnson

tpe to portland for rudy

james johnson for tpe

[Jimmy Chitwood]

Jose to Indiana for Dunleavy. Straight up. The salaries match.

Just noticed this article from an Indiana paper about them wanting to unload Dunleavy and looking to add a vet PG: http://blogs.indystar.com/pacersinsider/archives/2010/07/pacers_trying_t.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Thoughts?

[The Duke]

That would be a good deal for us... hopefully BC has placed the call already to see the interest on the other side... tho I dont think they'll do it......

If they want to trade TJ as well I'd take him for some expirings aswell.

TJ/Dunleavy for Jose/Banks/Evans.

[Courtside]

How about...

Jose to Indiana, TJ to Houston and Battier+Jeffries to Toronto, along with NYKs first rounder?

It sheds another $6 mil of Houston's payroll, getting them under the tax threshold entirely, and gets them another point guard (that they seem to be looking for). TJ is from Texas and expires, so there is no added long term commitment. The Rockets would also generate a $6 mil TPE that can be used into next year's contract season.

For Indiana, they get a decent starting PG who would actually run a stable offense and feed Granger as much as they want. They have a ton of expirings after this season, so Jose's additional 2 years aren't as big a deal as they might be elsewhere.

Toronto takes on salary for one year, but both players are expirings, so it balances out with shedding Jose's 3 remaining years. The draft pick is the main result, which reduces the need for Toronto to suck in order to get high picks, as we'll have the high pick from NYK.

A Battier/Kleiza combo at SF is pretty good and a vet like Shane would fit really well on a young roster. He could be traded at the deadline to a team looking for a good wing defender to throw at Kobe, James, etc...