Boston, Chicago and N.Y. leading candidates for Fernandez

[CelticFaninLBC]

Can't see them going after Rudy now, with the signing of Quis. They'll be putting their trade assets into a big or 3/4..

[campybatman]

Has Fernandez changed his tune?

I would rather target him than House.

Rudy Fernandez: "Portland is willing to make a trade and the truth is I'm pleased they want to do it. Now we have to find a team where I can have an important role or where I can find the dynamics I enjoyed in Portland the first year." El Mundo Deportivo

Rudy Fernandez: "My agents are in the United States, they are speaking with them and if something comes up they will travel to Portland." El Mundo Deportivo

[AsijsLV]

If we get Rudy, that means we don't get Shaq, IMO. Or 3 way deal?
But I would be happy seeRudy on Celtics uniform.

[sully00]

Rudy only makes 1.2 mil so Boston could use Bradley after 8/1 or the two minimum contracts though that would make dealing Sheed more complicated. I know some of you have Bradley making the All Star team but the trade makes a lot of sense, and then Boston doesn't have to trade a future first to make a trade.

Just a conspiracy theory of mine that Boston drafted Bradley for POR on draft night, but the teams were caught with the fact that Boston had no contract to trade for Fernandez so they sign Bradley who conveniently can't play Summer League and wait for his trade restriction to expire. I have always found it odd that Fernandez was front burner to be dealt on draft night and then it didn't happen, that Boston took the BPA but clearly is not a perfect fit for their roster or aspirations and would seem to be hand made for Brandon Roy. Fernandez has specified Boston as a place he wants to go to as he is a fit short and long term.

I don't think they would be a title contender or anything but you could probably make the playoffs with a starting 5 of :
Rondo
Rudy
Pierce
Baby
Perkins
in two years.

[campybatman]

On Dale and Holley, just now, they'd suggested that, perhaps, Robinson was re-signed with the idea in mind of trading him as a part of a later deal. But the suggestion was made as a way to figure out an opening for signing House.

Portland doesn't necessarily need a point guard already having Andre Miller and Bayless. So, a Robinson to Portland for Fernandez type deal is unlikely. Darn. Fernandez's low salary would make that hard anyways.

Interesting...

What are the trade prospects for Fernandez?

They're limited if he's considered in isolation. It's not a matter of interest as much as contract. Fernandez makes $1.25 million this year. There aren't any $1.25 million players available with the promise and skills that Rudy brings to the table. Everybody else on rookie scale is either beyond Rudy's capacity to net or below Portland's interest level. That leaves Fernandez at the mercy of whatever other trades he can be thrown into. Fortunately he could be a nice throw-in piece either because of his talent (again, shooting doesn't go out of style) or because he could easily be bought out or cut.

What would the Blazers take?

It's always tricky to read minds (and the wind), but the best guess is that they're looking for the same first-round pick they spent on Rudy originally in order for another NBA team to pry him away. Any combo trade would be dependent on the other players more than Rudy himself but they'd have zero qualms about throwing him into a nice deal. Your guess is as good as mine when it comes to a buyout. Would the $3 million that Paul Allen spent to get Rudy originally suffice? Portland has been loathe to let go of assets in recent years. Simply resetting to zero might make it seem like they made a mistake. Ideally they'd like to gain ground in any exchange involving Fernandez. Reality may set in about the likelihood of that happening. If Fernandez isn't moved by the start of the season it's quite possible that a Euro team could reach Paul Allen's (presumably shrinking) magic number. But the Blazers will almost certainly follow their pattern of holding firm until they perceive the deal to be right. There's no way they'll give him away when all they have to endure is a million and change plus a few tantrums to keep him.

http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/7/26/15 ... -fernandez

[campybatman]

Apparently, New York, Chicago and Boston are the teams with the most interest in signing Fernandez. Besides Fernandez, Chicago is also reportedly interested in House.

Trail Blazers actively seeking trade for Rudy Fernandez according to agent Andy Miller. Boston, Chicago and New York are leading candidates

http://twitter.com/jwquick/status/19707105915

[spanish-celtic]

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Just a conspiracy theory of mine that Boston drafted Bradley for POR on draft night, but the teams were caught with the fact that Boston had no contract to trade for Fernandez so they sign Bradley who conveniently can't play Summer League and wait for his trade restriction to expire. I have always found it odd that Fernandez was front burner to be dealt on draft night and then it didn't happen, that Boston took the BPA but clearly is not a perfect fit for their roster or aspirations and would seem to be hand made for Brandon Roy. Fernandez has specified Boston as a place he wants to go to as he is a fit short and long term.

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I don't think you need any theory, I think Ainge would have took the BPA no matter what and probably shop him. As I said before, Rudy would be a perfect fit at zero risk.

Just imagine you picked him, let him turn into a star in Europe (something which happened) and then you sign him in the mid 20s. Plus he can help right now while the aging big three is in place, something Bradley propbably can't do. It's a great short-term / long-term option.

PS: There's nothing wrong about Bradley, but he's just too young. I don't think he'd get pt this year.

[campybatman]

This is all interesting. I wonder is Boston one of the teams offering a future first round pick.

In my opinion... Fernandez > West > House

What I like about Fernandez is that he offers length, athleticism and three-point range. Conversely, what would concern me if he were to join Boston, is McMillan's comments.

At the urging of Rudy Fernandez and his agent, the Trail Blazers have engaged in accelerated trade discussions to deal the disgruntled, once-popular shooting guard to one of three Eastern Conference teams.

Boston, Chicago and New York are all in the running to land the 6-foot-6 Spaniard, who set an NBA rookie record two seasons ago by making 159 three-pointers.

Some of the teams interested in Fernandez have offered a future first round draft pick, while other offers would pair Fernandez with another Blazers player, but agent Andy Miller would not get into specifics.

In the 2010 playoffs against Phoenix, Fernandez did get a chance to show what he could do with a bigger role, but he struggled. He started the first three games at shooting guard in place of the injured Roy, but was tentative and ineffective, making just two of his first 12 shots in the series. He had two flurries -- making four three pointers in the fourth quarter of a Game 3 blowout loss and five three pointers in the season-ending Game 6 loss.

"Let me put it this way," McMillan said. "Rudy is a team player, and his style of play requires minutes. He's not a guy who is just going to come down and jack up a shot. He needs to get into a flow, into a rhythm, and that's not a backup role. And I think that is his frustration."

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazer ... _a_fa.html

[cfan79]

I wouldn't trade Baby for him because we need to keep his size. I'd give Rasheed and a 1st rounder, that's a good enough offer for a disgruntled player.

[AsijsLV]

Danny, give Portland pick! + Danny said that C`s need shooter and Rudy is shooter. He would have big role in C`s, IMO.

[eitanr]

As much as Boston needs a shooter and Rudy could be had for relatively cheap...I think it may be wiser to pass on him for a cheap easy option like Delonte West and then use the spare Sheed deal on Shaq worst comes to worst.

I do agree with coach McMillan that it seems a guy like Rudy really needs 25+ MPG to get going. With that being the case, Boston needs low risk glue guys who can help spell Pierce and Allen major minutes during the season.

The X factor on the bench is still Marquis Daniels. We really didn't see consistent play for him all year because of his injuries. Can Quis play effectivley in a playoff rotation? To me that is the question.

In the end I think if Boston can at least nab one of West or Rudy without using Sheed and couple that with using Sheed's deal to hopefully land Josh Howard (with Quis as an insurance piece), that would be the ultimate. After that, it would seem Boston could at least use Sheed's deal on Shaq....then you're left with Quis playing some rotational playoff minutes with no real insurance at the backup 3 role.

Are we okay with that? I think if that happens, Boston would need to shell for an additional backup 3. Too bad Gomes is already gone...don't know who that additional backup 3 would be...needs to be someone who can defend...perhaps hit the 3...and we'd feel comfortable in a playoff rotation. Thoughts?

[campybatman]

Interestingly, the same was said of Robinson: He's the type of player that requires twenty or so minutes to truly be effective. Now a similar thinking is applying to Fernandez. I don't know, you've to take a chance with certain players. Evidently, none of this seems to deter Ainge from having an interest in these kinds of players.

In my opinion, you've to move on from players such as House and West. House is too much of a liability defensively. He's a one dimensional player. An undersized shooting guard. You bring him back for sentimental reasons. If that's the reason, I would rather bring back Scalabrine. Whereas, West is injury prone. His off-the-court issues are unwanted in Boston. You don't need those kinds of distractions. Boston already dealt with that with Tony. Actually, when West was here, he'd an off-the-court incident involving his family and then older girlfriend. Both of these guards are undersized shooting guards. No thanks. What Boston needs is Fernandez (in a best case scenario that he succeeds here). What West needs is a one-year break from the NBA.

[DelMonte West]

We need quality on our bench, not quantity. Passing up on Rudy to settle for West/House and the chance to sign a fat washed-up has-been who thinks he's still "the man" is the last thing we should be doing. In addition, he's taller than 6'4", which is key for our wings. The more height, the better.

I'll take him any day over the other wings floating around (House, West, Howard, Hughes).

[Celts17Pride]

FWIW, Rumor of a 3 way brewing from another Portland fan forum.

Rumor of the hour is that Boston maybe involved as they want Rudy and are willing to give up one of their draft picks for him. It would involve Joel Przybilla & Rudy Fernandez for Rasheed Wallace contract (i.e. retires) and a future 1st round pick. Portland would then send the exception & pick to another team.

I was looking at Philadelphia's Lou Williams, which the exception would match with Rasheed's contract.

Anyway, just what I heard so far.....


I posted early this evening before Jason Quick broke the story of the teams from my source....

Taking it further to what I've been told is that Boston is in the lead because of the future 1st has less restrictions and that Boston is probably 2-3 years away from becoming a lottery team again.

Anyway, I was told Boston is the front runner and that it will be a three team deal with Portland getting a young PG back.

$8.65M - Rudy Fernandez & Joel Przybilla to Boston
$7.08M - Rasheed Wallace ($6.32M retiring), Tony Gaffney & 2013 1st round pick to ?
$??.??M - {young PG} to Portland

http://www.clubblazers.com/blazers-disc ... 94-15.html

Seems reasonable.

[nasbahceltic]

FWIW, Rumor of a 3 way brewing from another Portland fan forum.

Rumor of the hour is that Boston maybe involved as they want Rudy and are willing to give up one of their draft picks for him. It would involve Joel Przybilla & Rudy Fernandez for Rasheed Wallace contract (i.e. retires) and a future 1st round pick. Portland would then send the exception & pick to another team.

I was looking at Philadelphia's Lou Williams, which the exception would match with Rasheed's contract.

Anyway, just what I heard so far.....


I posted early this evening before Jason Quick broke the story of the teams from my source....

Taking it further to what I've been told is that Boston is in the lead because of the future 1st has less restrictions and that Boston is probably 2-3 years away from becoming a lottery team again.

Anyway, I was told Boston is the front runner and that it will be a three team deal with Portland getting a young PG back.

$8.65M - Rudy Fernandez & Joel Przybilla to Boston
$7.08M - Rasheed Wallace ($6.32M retiring), Tony Gaffney & 2013 1st round pick to ?
$??.??M - {young PG} to Portland

http://www.clubblazers.com/blazers-disc ... 94-15.html

Seems reasonable.

That would be absolutely awesome. Anybody know if this guy has any credibility??

[sully00]

I had mentioned that Pryz/Rudy deal earlier in the offseason maybe around the draft I like that one a lot as Pryz is an expring deal so either he can help or he can be used at the deadline. No Shaq and we can keep Bradley I like it.

The thing with Rudy is apparently just like everyone else in POR he isn't happy with the offense. It is slow and runs through Roy then to Aldridge so even if your a good shooter your only getting shots at the end of the clock. Rudy wants to run and play in a motion offense similar to what Boston is at least supposed to be, not one guy pounding the ball trying to break down his defender. Then Roy went down and they expected Rudy to play his role in the offense and he can't do it, it isn't his skill set or his game. Fernandez is a good player at the SG spot with good size, excellent shooting abiilty, and a very good passer and decent rebounder. But he can't defend PGs and he loses all of his physical advantages as a SF as he becomes small, weak, doesn't do a great job getting to the basket and becomes a below avg rebounder.

[JR Hawks]

We need quality on our bench, not quantity. Passing up on Rudy to settle for West/House and the chance to sign a fat washed-up has-been who thinks he's still "the man" is the last thing we should be doing. In addition, he's taller than 6'4", which is key for our wings. The more height, the better.

I'll take him any day over the other wings floating around (House, West, Howard, Hughes).

Getting West wouldn't require you to give up your best remaining trade asset...Sheed's contract. If Sheed's contract is traded for Rudy/Pryz the Celtics offseason is immediately over as there won't be any assets left to move. If you sign a released West, you can still make another big move.

[greenbeans]

I'm not sure how much I believe the rumor, simply because it's a trade idea we've all seen a few times by now.

If it is real though, damn, I'm all for it. The Vanilla Gorilla in Boston baby!

[CollegeToPros]

I would absolutely give up sheed, gaffney, and our 1st round pick for Rudy and Pryz.

Rondo/Nate
Ray/Bradley
Pierce/Rudy/Daniels
KG/Davis/Harangody
Perkins/JO/Pryzbilla

now that is a solid team.

[campybatman]

I hope that Ainge knows what he's doing if Przybilla is to be part of a deal for Fernandez because he'd two surgeries on his right knee (repaired a ruptured right patella tendon twice). And he turns thirty-one in October.