Kevin Seraphin

WizarDynasty · Post #241 » by **WizarDynasty** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:49 pm

All i gotta say is Seraphin is a beast when his knee get healthy. He has the best touch inside of all bigs..he has explosive foot work and coordination in the post maybe even better than blatche and he bangs way more than blatche and will pulverize mcgee in practice. I see Seraphin definitely taking over the center spot away from McGee unless McGee magically squats 400lbs without hurting his knees. (Highly unlikely) This is probably Ernie's greatest moment. Signing Arenas away from golden state, drafting blatche, McGee was a good decision from the few choices he had and now Seraphin. Top three addition moves. Seraphin may turn out to be his greatest accomplishment as a wiz thanks to the Wizard Savior "In TEd we Trust".

hands11 · Post #242 » by **hands11** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:44 pm

Now I'm getting excited. Upside for this team just increased dramatically in my book. You don't have a reliable team if you don't have a defensive center.

This kid has the body for the NBA right out of the gate. Now we have someone we can at least hope can defend the paint. Someone who prides themselves as a center post defender and he has the height, weight, reach and desire to do it. Awesoooome.

And with Armstrong we have another body in case he is needed. While we are young in the post, I at least like our chance to play a 5 man line up with a defensive center. This will really help Dray. This is going to allow us to be more open about how we use McGee also. I can easily see Seraphin passing McGee or at least sharing center minutes with him. If that happens, Mcgee will get a better look in practice as a PF just like some here and his mother have been talking about. Longer term if we don't keep Yi, McGee can be back up PF and Center. McGee has competition at his position again and an overall more defensive team to learn and be influenced so I hope we get to see him improve.

Now I'm not saying he is Akeem but I did notice how he bounces and moves in a similar way to how I remember Akeem moving. Maybe it's a soccer thing. Kid already has a great drop step which is great to see. I can easily see him establishing go to post moves unlike McGee who seems to freelance and make it up as he goes.

Huge win for our boys.

queridiculo · Post #243 » by **queridiculo** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:11 pm

Thanks to everybody contributing Seraphin highlights to this thread.

From what I've seen the kid seems surprisingly sound and quite comfortable playing with his back to the basket. He may not have a vast array of moves but he fights for position and reacts well to contact.

Seems to play with a lot of confidence and doesn't show much hesitation from somebody that's described as being incredibly raw.

Looking forward to seeing this guy in the Wizards uniform.

Post #244 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:44 pm

b-ball forever wrote:From all the articles I've seen it sounds like he's gonna go to the NBA this year.

There was a small report on him on the french national news last night :
http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-20h/kevin-serap ... 51739.html

Says he's working out 5 hours a day during his holidays despite the injury, trainer says that he wants Seraphin to become like Joakim Noah, and has potential to be better then him (on offense in particular).

This is nice - we're used to our young bigs spending 5 hours every day on video games and 5 hours every night at night clubs. This guys spends 5 hours a day training... when he's injured... and on holiday (as they say in Europe). Zut alors! Sacre bleu cheese!

no D in Hibachi · Post #245 » by **no D in Hibachi** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:31 am

Seraphin has the potential to crack the rotation this season. He may not be very tall for a center, but he's got the gerth to body up with anyone. That is a noticably lacking skill from our other big men. He's young enough that maybe he might grow another inch or two.

Jimmy Recard · Post #246 » by **Jimmy Recard** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:39 am

I've seen only highlights, he looks impressive. Can he play Center at the NBA level though? What we're his draft measurements?

hands11 · Post #247 » by **hands11** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:00 am

no D in Hibachi wrote:Seraphin has the potential to crack the rotation this season. He may not be very tall for a center, but he's got the gerth to body up with anyone. That is a noticably lacking skill from our other big men. He's young enough that maybe he might grow another inch or two.

6-10 1/2 in shoes 260-265 is plenty for center. 7-3 reach. 6-9 bare footed.

I said it early on, I would not be surprised at all if he doesn't end up starting at center. If he is what I hope he will be, I'm actually counting on it. By the time we get to January, I'm looking for this line up.

Wall/Kirk
Gil/NY
Howard/AT/Booker
Dray/Yi/Singleton
Seraphin/McGee/Armstrong

You trade for Melo. Not getting into who I would keep, we have to see them play first but I wouldnt move Wall or Dray. Hopefully we could look like.

Wall
Gil
Melo
Dray
Seraphin

Depending on who we get to keep, that team can do some damage and your set for a while. The tough call will be moving Gil or not.

Benjammin · Post #248 » by **Benjammin** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:45 am

Draft express early in the process talked about Seraphin being 6-9 without shoes, but June 7th reported he measured 6-9 in shoes, but reporting two different weights (264 and 278) and his wingspan as 7-3 and reach 9-1. From the highlights I've seen he doesn't seem 6-10 to me, but we'll know soon enough. He seems to have good hands and good feet, two essential qualities for a good big man. He's probably more explosive than Nene vertically, but a little shorter. I would think with training he should be good in dealing with pick and roll situations defensively.

hands11 · Post #249 » by **hands11** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:00 am

Benjammin wrote:Draft express early in the process talked about Seraphin being 6-9 without shoes, but June 7th reported he measured 6-9 in shoes, but reporting two different weights (264 and 278) and his wingspan as 7-3 and reach 9-1. From the highlights I've seen he doesn't seem 6-10 to me, but we'll know soon enough. He seems to have good hands and good feet, two essential qualities for a good big man. He's probably more explosive than Nene vertically, but a little shorter. I would think with training he should be good in dealing with pick and roll situations defensively.

Most recent report I saw was 6-9 no shoes 265. We will have to see.

The good news is he already has a high release unlike our friend McGee who shoots like he is 6-9. And Seraphin showed he can shoot with his left hand. And from all the highlight video I have seen he has great footwork, a great drop step, seem to make good decisions, he is nimble and changes direction well, seems focused and mature putting in 5 hrs a day while recovering from an injury, and he wants to defend the paint and has a reputation for doing it. Damn, writing all of that and I'm convincing myself he is already ahead of McGee and could start the season.

JaVale was drafted 18th
Seraphin 17th but seems a lot more polished. Why couldn't he be a lot better at center than McGee ? He has a way better NBA body coming into the game than McGee did and McGee come to a team that wasn't as organized as I believe this one is.

I really like this team so far. Ted, EG and the gang did us right.

DCZards · Post #250 » by **DCZards** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:03 am

b-ball forever wrote:There was a small report on him on the french national news last night :
http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-20h/kevin-serap ... 51739.html

Thanks for the video. Didn't understand a word of it but still felt like I learned a lot about Seraphin.

Benjammin · Post #251 » by **Benjammin** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:08 am

hands11 wrote:
Benjammin wrote:Draft express early in the process talked about Seraphin being 6-9 without shoes, but June 7th reported he measured 6-9 in shoes, but reporting two different weights (264 and 278) and his wingspan as 7-3 and reach 9-1. From the highlights I've seen he doesn't seem 6-10 to me, but we'll know soon enough. He seems to have good hands and good feet, two essential qualities for a good big man. He's probably more explosive than Nene vertically, but a little shorter. I would think with training he should be good in dealing with pick and roll situations defensively.

Most recent report I saw was 6-9 no shoes 265. We will have to see.

Kevin Seraphin is in Treviso getting measured. Came out 6-9 in shoes, 278, w/7-3 wingspan, 9-1 standing reach. Walking normal, knee is fine.
2010-06-07 12:45:01
Kevin Seraphin is in Treviso getting measured. Came out 6-9 in shoes, 264, w/7-3 wingspan, 9-1 standing reach. Walking normal, knee is fine.
2010-06-07 06:20:07

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kev ... z0v8D2z6vR
http://www.draftexpress.com

hands11 · Post #252 » by **hands11** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:27 am

Benjammin wrote:
hands11 wrote:
Benjammin wrote:Draft express early in the process talked about Seraphin being 6-9 without shoes, but June 7th reported he measured 6-9 in shoes, but reporting two different weights (264 and 278) and his wingspan as 7-3 and reach 9-1. From the highlights I've seen he doesn't seem 6-10 to me, but we'll know soon enough. He seems to have good hands and good feet, two essential qualities for a good big man. He's probably more explosive than Nene vertically, but a little shorter. I would think with training he should be good in dealing with pick and roll situations defensively.

Most recent report I saw was 6-9 no shoes 265. We will have to see.

Kevin Seraphin is in Treviso getting measured. Came out 6-9 in shoes, 278, w/7-3 wingspan, 9-1 standing reach. Walking normal, knee is fine.
2010-06-07 12:45:01
Kevin Seraphin is in Treviso getting measured. Came out 6-9 in shoes, 264, w/7-3 wingspan, 9-1 standing reach. Walking normal, knee is fine.
2010-06-07 06:20:07

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kev ... z0v8D2z6vR
http://www.draftexpress.com

Well we can get him some of those 60s platform shoes.

Well, Ben Wallace was 6-9 and this kid already has a lot more offense.
Besides, he is what...20 yrs old. Maybe he still grows an inch or so.

WizarDynasty · Post #253 » by **WizarDynasty** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:43 am

What I like. About him is that he has explosvie movements...not long slow lanky movement like mcgee. Its not his heightbut his standing reach. Combine that with footwork and ecellent lower body strength and touch around the basket.

keynote · Post #254 » by **keynote** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:28 am

Big difference between 264 and 278(!). From what I've seen, I can't imagine him being 278 - if he's only 6'9"-6'10".

TheGreatWall · Post #255 » by **TheGreatWall** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:45 am

DCZards wrote:
b-ball forever wrote:There was a small report on him on the french national news last night :
http://videos.tf1.fr/jt-20h/kevin-serap ... 51739.html

Thanks for the video. Didn't understand a word of it but still felt like I learned a lot about Seraphin.

Fluff piece. They interviewed his coach and he said Kevin was very coachable and a hard worker. That was the important part of the video IMO.

Surfman · Post #256 » by **Surfman** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:17 pm

Well, I could not be happier. I was super high in this kid before the draft and posted a lot of ways to move up and get him. I think he is our banger PF/C of the future. This kid is going to be a beast. He's 265 and does not look like he has any fat at all. I really like what we have done this off season. It's seem like sice lottery night its just gotten better and better. We still have about 5 million to fill out the roster but I am starting to think nba minimum guys. I want the young guys to get as much playing time as possible so we can get a good read on how they may pan out. Not sold on Booker yet. Wall and Seraphin will both be fine NBA players, I have no doubt about that. I'm excited and can't wait for training camp to get going. Going to be a great year,. Our team is going to be really fun to watch.

Post #257 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:53 pm

Surfman wrote:Well, I could not be happier. I was super high in this kid before the draft and posted a lot of ways to move up and get him. I think he is our banger PF/C of the future. This kid is going to be a beast. He's 265 and does not look like he has any fat at all. I really like what we have done this off season. It's seem like sice lottery night its just gotten better and better. We still have about 5 million to fill out the roster but I am starting to think nba minimum guys. I want the young guys to get as much playing time as possible so we can get a good read on how they may pan out. Not sold on Booker yet. Wall and Seraphin will both be fine NBA players, I have no doubt about that. I'm excited and can't wait for training camp to get going. Going to be a great year,. Our team is going to be really fun to watch.

Yeah, I'm fixated on his size, because he's not a "bulky" 265. Actually, I've seen him listed as heavy as 278. That's why I think he's gotta be taller than 6'9. I don't know if Dwight Howard or Andrew Bogut tip the scales at 270ish and they're huge and around 7'.

Save the $5 mil for flexibility. Some people poopoo cap room around here, but it can make a big difference in several ways.

I think Booker was picked for how he'd blend with Wall and for his intangibles more than for being a good value pick. Pondexter seemed like the obvious choice to me, but they don't pay me to make those decisions, for some reason. Basically, I agree with everything you said.

Mr_Wizard · Post #258 » by **Mr_Wizard** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:45 pm

For what it's worth... In the French report they said he weighed 125 kilos which would be 275 pounds. However, there's a great chance that their source is the 278 measurement source we heard about

willbcocks · Post #259 » by **willbcocks** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:42 am

We traded for the pick as soon as Pondexter fell to NO. I bet we called NO hoping to get him, were rejected, then called about booker.

hands11 · Post #260 » by **hands11** » Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:56 am

In my eyes, there is a lot riding on this kid. We all know/feel pretty sure we know what to expect from Wall and he was number 1. But Seraphin files a huge need at defensive center. If he is a good as I think he will be, he is going to be a huge story.