Rudy Fernandez for Jared Dudley

[KJ7]

13.5m over 3 years sounds about right but after what Childress received there could be someone willing to give him the full MLE.

Mainly cos I don't see his stats improving cos of the logjam on the wings. He'll be more valuable to us in 2 season rather than next season due to Hill and JRich's contracts expiring ... neither are a certainty to come back. If JRich gets thrown a 10m contract we won't re-sign him and then our attention will turn to re-signing Dudley.

[BurningHeart]

Jared Dudley's heart and chemistry alone is worth MLE, let alone his basketball ability.

[lilfishi22]

The smart thing to do is to let the market dictate Dudley's value and then match it.

[MrVince]

I'd rather keep Dudley, hopefully for the rest of his career

[KJ7]

The smart thing to do is to let the market dictate Dudley's value and then match it.

That worked so well for us with Amare and Joe Johnson

Nah seriously, I would put a 13.5m over 3 years with a team option for the 4th (that year would be around 5.5m) out there as early as possible and if he doesn't accept it then we'll have to see what the market dictates.

No harm making an early offer.

[RunDogGun]

The smart thing to do is to let the market dictate Dudley's value and then match it.

That worked so well for us with Amare and Joe Johnson

Nah seriously, I would put a 13.5m over 3 years with a team option for the 4th (that year would be around 5.5m) out there as early as possible and if he doesn't accept it then we'll have to see what the market dictates.

No harm making an early offer.

But it was something we should have done with Diaw. I think we could have had him around the $7 million mark, or something closer to LB's contract. We over spent with Diaw and didn't wait to see what his market value would have been before we signed him. Plus he came in so out of shape after he signed, making it look like we were conned.

Amare left because he wanted someone to pay for him when he gets injured again. Joe left because Sarver was stupid and lowballed him.

I think we should see how the season goes, and then start negotiations early with smart offers to keep him here without spending too much.

I know it sounds weird, but I would like to keep Hill more than I would like to keep Dudley. Even though Hill is getting old, he has given us starters production at a bench price.

[lilfishi22]

The smart thing to do is to let the market dictate Dudley's value and then match it.

That worked so well for us with Amare and Joe Johnson

Nah seriously, I would put a 13.5m over 3 years with a team option for the 4th (that year would be around 5.5m) out there as early as possible and if he doesn't accept it then we'll have to see what the market dictates.

No harm making an early offer.

The FO totally f-d up the negotiations with Amare. He could've been had for less than max had Sarver loosened up and given Amare those two extra years at an average of $14m. It should've never gotten to the point where Sarver is forced to offer up max to keep him because everyone knows he's going to fold. For a star of Amare's stature, letting the market dictate his value is never a good idea, especially since it's general knowledge that there are teams with cap space and teams actively looking to sign Amare. In those situations where teams are desperate for a star, you won't be able to outbid them unless our owner is Mark Cuban or something.

As for Dudley, there will be teams looking for his service but no one is going to break to bank for him, which is why it wouldn't hurt to let the market dicate his value and give him a fair deal. It certainly doesn't hurt offering him a deal early either but like RDG said, we don't want to overpay like we did with Diaw. $13.5m over 3 years with a team option would be a little low in my opinion but it wouldn't hurt to try. I think he'll get somewhere close to MLE, possibly a little more.

[JohnVancouver]

It seems to me that most (if not all) of the "Dudley is an attention whore and will bolt" logic is based on pure speculation.

Hear, hear - I love how this kind of opinion gets posted as truth and from then on is quoted as a known fact by others.

[JasonDaPsycho]

The FO totally f-d up the negotiations with Amare. He could've been had for less than max had Sarver loosened up and given Amare those two extra years at an average of $14m. It should've never gotten to the point where Sarver is forced to offer up max to keep him because everyone knows he's going to fold. For a star of Amare's stature, letting the market dictate his value is never a good idea, especially since it's general knowledge that there are teams with cap space and teams actively looking to sign Amare. In those situations where teams are desperate for a star, you won't be able to outbid them unless our owner is Mark Cuban or something.

As for Dudley, there will be teams looking for his service but no one is going to break to bank for him, which is why it wouldn't hurt to let the market dicate his value and give him a fair deal. It certainly doesn't hurt offering him a deal early either but like RDG said, we don't want to overpay like we did with Diaw. $13.5m over 3 years with a team option would be a little low in my opinion but it wouldn't hurt to try. I think he'll get somewhere close to MLE, possibly a little more.

I totally agree with you. Our owner is too dumb to realize anything and now with Hedo, we're bound to not win much at all.

[ma_falaa_50]

id say id wait until what happens with the new CBA. if someone wants to over pay dudley maybe we do a S@T? Honestly why are ppl still holding onto the JJ and Amare negotiations. The suns did want to give amare the 5 yr contract but wasnt guaranteed. we low balled JJ, we got diaw. We low balled MArion and look where he is now! amare wont changed that. why are u guys panicking over something that is a non issue right now. if dudley wants to leave he can but lets not forget that he was a back of the bench guy without steve. he is a smart defender but he may be overvaluing himself too if he leaves phx and thinks he will have the same success.

[lilfishi22]

I totally agree with you. Our owner is too dumb to realize anything and now with Hedo, we're bound to not win much at all.

This is where you're wrong. Our owner isn't too dumb when it comes to realizing profit. He realizes there is profit to be made if our team can just be semi-competitive without breaking the bank to sign top free agents. Now that we're no longer paying tax, we'll be one of the teams who get a share of the tax paid by the top salary teams. Couple that with a relatively low team salary plus Steve Nash and the "SSOL" system still in place and Sarver is looking at a continued merchandising and ticket revenue for the season. I can't say if this is what Sarver had in mind all along but it definitely is to a tune he likes.

For him, making playoffs is the most important thing and spending just enough to make playoffs is enough for him. If this team gets further than the first round, like we did last season, then it's a bonus. But let's not pretend like Sarver really has winning basketball as a priority.