GM a Team 10/11 : New Trades and Transactions Thread

[BarnesTheSavior]

The Milwaukee Bucks and Atlanta Hawks have agreed on a deal:

ATL Out / MIL In
Noah - 3,128,536
Billups - 13,150,000
Crawford - 10,080,000
Total - 26,358,536

MIL Out / ATL In
Duncan - 18,835,381
Jennings - 2,331,120
Delfino - 3,500,000
Total - 24,666,501

Milwaukee accepts. We are happy with the results of this trade. We liked the combination of Jennings and Duncan, but we felt like Billups and Noah better fit the makeup of where this team is headed. Billups is the savvy veteran PG we have been looking for to put our team over the top. Additionally, we feel like a defensive, rebounding center was better for our future than an aging Duncan. While we may have downgraded in talent there, we've made up for it and more with the addition of Sixth Man of the Year Jamal Crawford. He will give our second unit the scoring punch we've desperately needed.

Atlanta accepts. It was inevitable that either Noah or Gasol would be traded and the best offer came for Noah. We lose a couple starters, but couldn't pass up the chance at adding a young and promising point guard like Jennings. Especially considering the uncertainty with the future at that position for our team. Delfino is pretty much a cap filler, though we might bring him back if certain things fall in the off-season. Good defense and 3pt shooting off the bench is always welcomed.

[jcldallas24]

Portland Gets:
Lamar Odom $8,200,000
Nenad Kristic $5,543,116
Michael Finley $854,389
Jerryd Bayless $3,042,280
McGrady $3,000,000
2012 Detroit 2nd
2012 Washington 2nd
totals: $20,639,785

Portland Trades:
Wesley Matthews $5,765,000
Ronny Turiaf $4,000,000
Radmanovich $6,883,800
2011 Denver 2nd
2011 SAS 2nd
totals: $17,410,995X125%+100k=$21,763,743
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Washington Gets:
Ronny Turiaf $4,000,000

Washington Trades:
Yi Jianlian $4,050,499
2012 Washington 2nd

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Orlando Gets:
Wesley Matthews $5,543,116
Yi Jianlian $4,050,499
Radmanovich $6,883,800
totals: $16,477,415

Orlando Trades:
Lamar Odom $8,200,000
Nenad Kristic $5.543.116
2012 DET 2nd
Finley $ 854,389
Totals: $14,597,505 x 1.25% + 100,000 = $18,346,881

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New York Trades:
Jerryd Bayless $3,042,280

New York Gets:
Jeff Pendergraph $762,195

gets TPE out of it...

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OKC trades:
Tmac $3,000,000

OKC gets:
2011 Denver 2nd
2011 SAS 2nd
*no TPE is created since OKC is under the cap

Portland accepts because fill out our team better..
*fixed

[48_7]

Portland Gets:
Lamar Odom $8,200,000
Nenad Kristic $5,543,116
Michael Finley $854,389
Jerryd Bayless $3,042,280
McGrady $3,000,000
2012 Washington 2nd
totals: $20,639,785

Portland Trades:
Wesley Matthews $5,765,000
Ronny Turiaf $4,000,000
Radmanovich $6,883,800
2011 Denver 2nd
totals: $17,410,995X125%+100k=$21,763,743
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Washington Gets:
Ronny Turiaf $4,000,000

Washington Trades:
Yi Jianlian $4,050,499
2012 Washington 2nd

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Orlando Gets:
Wesley Matthews $5,543,116
Yi Jianlian $4,050,499
Radmanovich $6,883,800
totals: $16,477,415

Orlando Trades:
Lamar Odom $8,200,000
Nenad Kristic $5.543.116
2011 DET 2nd
Finley $ 854,389
Totals: $14,597,505 x 1.25% + 100,000 = $18,346,881

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New York Trades:
Jerryd Bayless $3,042,280

New York Gets:
Jeff Pendergraph $762,195

gets TPE out of it...

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OKC trades:
Tmac $3,000,000

OKC gets:
2011 Denver 2nd
2011 Detroit 2nd
*no TPE is created since OKC is under the cap

Portland accepts because fill out our team better..

WHOA. Just before we confuse anyone, the Detroit 2nd received by OKC is 2012, not 11. I told this to JC when we were talking.

That being said, I accept. Not sure how Portland got all of that, but kudos to him. Yi is a very intriguing prospect who brings much needed shooting with Evans, Aminu, Hibbert, etc. not having the most range. Wes Matthews has been a target for a long time. His defense is top-notch. He's another one of those hustle and work ethic guys.

[why22]

Portland Gets:
Lamar Odom $8,200,000
Nenad Kristic $5,543,116
Michael Finley $854,389
Jerryd Bayless $3,042,280
McGrady $3,000,000
2012 Washington 2nd
totals: $20,639,785

Portland Trades:
Wesley Matthews $5,765,000
Ronny Turiaf $4,000,000
Radmanovich $6,883,800
2011 Denver 2nd
totals: $17,410,995X125%+100k=$21,763,743
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Washington Gets:
Ronny Turiaf $4,000,000

Washington Trades:
Yi Jianlian $4,050,499
2012 Washington 2nd

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Orlando Gets:
Wesley Matthews $5,543,116
Yi Jianlian $4,050,499
Radmanovich $6,883,800
totals: $16,477,415

Orlando Trades:
Lamar Odom $8,200,000
Nenad Kristic $5.543.116
2011 DET 2nd
Finley $ 854,389
Totals: $14,597,505 x 1.25% + 100,000 = $18,346,881

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New York Trades:
Jerryd Bayless $3,042,280

New York Gets:
Jeff Pendergraph $762,195

gets TPE out of it...

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OKC trades:
Tmac $3,000,000

OKC gets:
2011 Denver 2nd
2011 Detroit 2nd
*no TPE is created since OKC is under the cap

Portland accepts because fill out our team better..

the wizards accept, yi doesnt fit in with our long term plans and we needed a centre desperatly to put next to favors

[SamBone]

OKC accepts their part of the deal. We trade TMac for 2011 2nd rounders from San Antonio and Denver. We like adding some 2nd rounders so we can improve our Eoropean franchise, and once we decided we wanted to win now, TMAC had to go. This move guarantees us getting past the 1st round of the playoffs

[willbsn13]

Portland Gets:
Lamar Odom $8,200,000
Nenad Kristic $5,543,116
Michael Finley $854,389
Jerryd Bayless $3,042,280
McGrady $3,000,000
2012 Detroit 2nd
2012 Washington 2nd
totals: $20,639,785

Portland Trades:
Wesley Matthews $5,765,000
Ronny Turiaf $4,000,000
Radmanovich $6,883,800
2011 Denver 2nd
2011 SAS 2nd
totals: $17,410,995X125%+100k=$21,763,743
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Washington Gets:
Ronny Turiaf $4,000,000

Washington Trades:
Yi Jianlian $4,050,499
2012 Washington 2nd

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Orlando Gets:
Wesley Matthews $5,543,116
Yi Jianlian $4,050,499
Radmanovich $6,883,800
totals: $16,477,415

Orlando Trades:
Lamar Odom $8,200,000
Nenad Kristic $5.543.116
2012 DET 2nd
Finley $ 854,389
Totals: $14,597,505 x 1.25% + 100,000 = $18,346,881

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New York Trades:
Jerryd Bayless $3,042,280

New York Gets:
Jeff Pendergraph $762,195

gets TPE out of it...

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OKC trades:
Tmac $3,000,000

OKC gets:
2011 Denver 2nd
2011 SAS 2nd
*no TPE is created since OKC is under the cap

Portland accepts because fill out our team better..
*fixed

NYK accept. We never really had Bayless, he was just someone to make the Bryant/Roy deal go through. We give him back, plus we get a cheat prospect.

[roc]

We never really had Bayless, he was just someone to make the Bryant/Roy deal go through. We give him back, plus we get a cheat prospect.

What does this mean???

[48_7]

What does this mean???

Bayless was just filler in the Bryant/Portland deal, so he's giving him back essentially. Never wanted him.

[roc]

Too bad, no circumventing rules.

and

Bayless for Pendergraph is not equal/fair value at all.

[jcldallas24]

MEM, POR and MIL have a huge 3 way trade to announce.


MEM outgoing:

Dwight Howard - 16,647,180
Vladimir Radmanovic - $6,883,800



MIL outgoing:

Andrew Bogut - $11,000,000
Aaron Gray - $1,500,000
Jon Brockman - $1,000,000
Luther Head - $2,080,000


POR outgoing:

Tim Duncan - $18,835,381
L. Aldridge - $10,744,000 (BYC: $5,372,000)
Nicolas Batum - $1,196,760
POR 2012 1st
SAS 2011 2nd

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MEM incoming:

Andrew Bogut - $11,000,000
L. Aldridge - $10,744,000 (BYC: $5,372,000)
Nicolas Batum - $1,196,760
Luther Head - $2,080,000
POR 2012 1st
SAS 2011 2nd


MIL incoming:

Tim Duncan - $18,835,381

POR incoming:

Dwight Howard - 16,647,180
Vladimir Radmanovic - $6,883,800
Aaron Gray - $1,500,000
Jon Brockman - $1,000,000


Tough deal for us, we downgrade from the best C in the league (by a fair margin) to the 2nd best C in the league.

Bogut is only 25 and had a breakthrough season last year. He put up 16/10/2.5 on 52% and made the All-NBA 3rd team. We really like his game on both ends of the floor, and his passing is very good for a center.

LMA is the perfect compliment at PF. 18/8, only 24 and his perimeter game fits nicely with our team.

Batum is already one of the best defenders in the league and he is only 21 years old. He shot 41% from 3 on 5.2 attempts.

This leaves us with Williams/Sefolosha/Batum/LMA/Bogut and caproom for the upcoming offseason. We accept.

Pick involved in this trade but the pick might be taken out under BlackIce's approval....To allow the other trade to go through...

[48_7]

Too bad, no circumventing rules.

and

Bayless for Pendergraph is not equal/fair value at all.

How does this circumvent a rule? It doesn't. And it doesn't matter if it isn't value for value. There are a litany of reasons New York could make this trade.

1. Dislike for Bayless.
2. Love for Pendergraph.
3. Salary dump.
4. Outstanding PG depth.
5. Need for a big man to round out the rotation.

There is no reason that it shouldn't happen. At all.

[roc]

IF it is prearranged that Bayless was to be shipped back, it does circumvent the rules and that is exactly what NY implied with his reasons for accepting the trade.

and value for value matters that is why we have a veto system.

speaking of which...

Any veto requests for this trade must be sent to co-commish AKA me and not SamBone as he is part of this trade.

[48_7]

IF it is prearranged that Bayless was to be shipped back, it does circumvent the rules and that is exactly what NY implied with his reasons for accepting the trade.

and value for value matters that is why we have a veto system.

speaking of which...

Any VETO REQUESTS for this trade must be sent to co-commish AKA me and not SamBone as he is part of this trade.

You have absolutely NO proof that it was prearranged. NONE what-so-ever. Regardless, are we not allowed to trade a player back to the team they came from? If that's the case, 3 or 4 of my trades are invalid.

Value for value does matter in SOME cases, but not always. There are so many other reasons that people make trades. Maybe he wants another 2.5 million to chase FAs with. If this trade gets vetoed because of bull like this, then find another person to play as Orlando.

[roc]

Did you read what NY wrote?

anyway

The trade does not take into account Matthews BYC.

[48_7]

Neither trade checker or the trade machine have Matthews listed as BYC. I do not think that he is. He was signed as a RFA, not given an extension off of his rookie contract.

[roc]

BYC has nothing to do with extensions. It has to do with how much raise in salary a player receives compared to old contract.

Neither TM or TC have it listed but they are not completely up to date on everything either. I already had checked into Matthews earlier in the game and found out about his BYC then.

[48_7]

BYC has nothing to do with extensions. It has to do with how much raise in salary a player receives compared to old contract.

Neither TM or TC have it listed but they are not completely up to date on everything either. I already had checked into Matthews earlier in the game and found out about his BYC then.

I was under the impression that if you were a free agent, you could not become BYC. But I could be wrong.

[48_7]

Per loserX:

No, you can't be BYC if you sign with a different team than the one you were on. He would have been BYC if the Jazz had signed him to that contract, iirc.

Per RealGM:

http://www.realgm.com/src_bycplayers.php

[roc]

Actually I already found it...

"if you re-sign a player and give him a big raise, then for a period of time his trade value will be lower than his actual salary."

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q76

So you are correct, he is not BYC since he did not resign.

I was reading stuff from Portland fans talking about him being BYC and it stuck in my head.

[48_7]

No worries r0c. I learned something new looking it up.