Trade Deadline Wing Candidates

[Klomp]

Ok, Thanks. It's funny because I think both Brewer and Johnson are terrific players. I'd love to see the Clippers make a trade for Brewer. Wouldnt have minded sending our pick which ended up being Aminu to you for Brewer.

I'd do that in a second. Aminu for four years on a rookie deal would give him plenty of time.

Well I'd hope you would deal him for the #8 if you wanted to deal him for the 19.

[shrink]

Half-second?

[shangrila]

It would have been better on draft day to get Paul George

[skorff26]

any chance

Haddadi + rights to Henry for Ellington + Utah pick (maybe?)

-I think Memphis was looking for scoring from the SG/SF coming off their bench and Ellington could definitely do that, plus Ellington has a cheap deal for the next 3 years and Memphis saves more money but taking him instead of Henry and they dump Haddadi as well.

[Esohny]

any chance

Haddadi + rights to Henry for Ellington + Utah pick (maybe?)

-I think Memphis was looking for scoring from the SG/SF coming off their bench and Ellington could definitely do that, plus Ellington has a cheap deal for the next 3 years and Memphis saves more money but taking him instead of Henry and they dump Haddadi as well.

I'd probably do that in a micro-second.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Wolves fans, is there a source which claimed the Wolves are looking for more wing players? With Brewer/Webster/Ellington and Johnson + possibly Beasley, it looks like you're pretty much set, no?

I'd like to think that there's enough bodies to reasonably hold down the wing spots, but I wouldn't turn down a good deal for Henry.

Bizarrely enough, our weakest position right now is probably PG

[Tango21]

Iggy has some Al in him. He pretty much puts an end to the concept of ball movement (which is unfortunate because he is actually a pretty good passer). However, at least with Al he is typically beasting guys in the post and getting high % looks whereas Iggy will settle for challenged fadeaways that he can't really make.

Maybe we should just acquire as many assets as possible that way when we don't win the lottery next year we can try and package said assets to move up for Barnes.

Dear god this is one of the worst takes i've seen on Iggy. I admit im one of his biggest ball washers but dont compare Al with Iggy ever. Iggy is an actual team player and actually commits to defense. Ends ball movement? Didnt Iggy average over 5 assists last year? Way better team player than Al is.

Your second paragraph wont happen. I thought we'd try to do it this year for Turner or Favors but it seems too difficult. If we get screwed in the lottery again we probably wont be able to move up. I guess I'd look at it like if we were to have the first or second pick, we'd better be getting Carmelo Anthony or someone just as good otherwise i probably wouldnt trade either

[Tango21]

I think Kahn has a 10 year outlook, not a 2 or 3 year outlook. The goal is to get a #1 franchise caliber player. Obtaining Igoudala or someone of that ilk handicaps that possibility. It makes us better in 2 or 3 years, perhaps a playoff team, but it makes a championship in the next ten years even less likely because we'll never get that #1.

Thats a good point. Never thought of it like that I guess. Its just hard being patient for this rebuild when we had a bunch of flexibility last year. Plus a Rubio+Iggy+Wes line has championship defense potential. But I see what your saying, just worried Kahn is in over his head

Maybe thats what Kahn does have planned. He wants a #1 scorer on this team to add with Rubio. I just dont see many out there if theres any at all. I think Melo is a pipe dream, altho I think we have better trade pieces than say the Knicks who he's been linked to. Knicks will win 35-45 games and wont have a great pick. We offer Denver our #1 pick (which id do in a heartbeat) and its already better than anything NYK has to offer. I just think its a pipedream, which is why i'd be fine with going after an Iggy or Granger

[Esohny]

I think Kahn has a 10 year outlook, not a 2 or 3 year outlook. The goal is to get a #1 franchise caliber player. Obtaining Igoudala or someone of that ilk handicaps that possibility. It makes us better in 2 or 3 years, perhaps a playoff team, but it makes a championship in the next ten years even less likely because we'll never get that #1.

Thats a good point. Never thought of it like that I guess. Its just hard being patient for this rebuild when we had a bunch of flexibility last year. Plus a Rubio+Iggy+Wes line has championship defense potential. But I see what your saying, just worried Kahn is in over his head

Maybe thats what Kahn does have planned. He wants a #1 scorer on this team to add with Rubio. I just dont see many out there if theres any at all. I think Melo is a pipe dream, altho I think we have better trade pieces than say the Knicks who he's been linked to. Knicks will win 35-45 games and wont have a great pick. We offer Denver our #1 pick (which id do in a heartbeat) and its already better than anything NYK has to offer. I just think its a pipedream, which is why i'd be fine with going after an Iggy or Granger

The Knicks gave their pick away along with Hill to get more cap space. They don't have a pick to trade for at least 2 years. It probably won't matter. Melo will just go there in free agency because he wants the glitter.

[TyKixx]

Dear god this is one of the worst takes i've seen on Iggy. I admit im one of his biggest ball washers but dont compare Al with Iggy ever. Iggy is an actual team player and actually commits to defense. Ends ball movement? Didnt Iggy average over 5 assists last year? Way better team player than Al is.

...and Allen Iverson averages over 6 assists a game for his career and he is one of the worst team players in NBA history.

[Tango21]

Dear god this is one of the worst takes i've seen on Iggy. I admit im one of his biggest ball washers but dont compare Al with Iggy ever. Iggy is an actual team player and actually commits to defense. Ends ball movement? Didnt Iggy average over 5 assists last year? Way better team player than Al is.

...and Allen Iverson averages over 6 assists a game for his career and he is one of the worst team players in NBA history.

Don't put AI into this. The ball was in his hands constantly when he was in Philly and he's one of the more rare players in league history.

Shirley you cannot be serious about Al being a better team player than Iggy. The guy who tried to score over 3 guys instead of passing to the open guy. Besides points/scoring & rebounding he doesn't do one thing better than Iggy. Iggy wants to play defense and does it well. Besides his 2-3 blocks on C Landry, he never played defense any other time this year. He will not be missed. "Ball movement ends with Iggy". What a joke

[Tango21]

The Knicks gave their pick away along with Hill to get more cap space. They don't have a pick to trade for at least 2 years. It probably won't matter. Melo will just go there in free agency because he wants the glitter.

Oh I know. I already said Melo was a pipedream. I figured even if we have better trade offers he'll go somewhere else. That's hilarious that the Knicks gave their pick away AGAIN just to have a shot at Lebron. Just because their New York they thought Lebron would go there. It bugs me that the location of that city is the attraction even tho they've been a joke since Ewing left. I'll laugh my ass off if they miss out on Lebron, then Melo/CP3 end up somewhere else and they'll be stuck w/ Amare's fat, undeserving, overpaid contract

[TyKixx]

Shirley you cannot be serious about Al being a better team player than Iggy.

and when did I ever even say this?

Iggy dribbles the air out of the ball and forces up off balance contested shots regularly. He is pretty hated in Philly for this reason. He has a "black hole" quality to him.

[Tango21]

Shirley you cannot be serious about Al being a better team player than Iggy.

and when did I ever even say this?

Iggy dribbles the air out of the ball and forces up off balance contested shots regularly. He is pretty hated in Philly for this reason. He has a "black hole" quality to him.

I guess you didnt say it directly but you called Iggy a blackhole and said he wasnt a team player and then went on to compliment Al Jefferson and that kinda set me off. My bad if I put words in your mouth. All im saying is that while both players are overpaid, Iggy is the better player and would contribute more to a winning team than Al would

[WiscoKing13]

Bucks fan here, you can have Redd for free

Anyways where's the joe alexander thread, thats what I came over for

[TyKixx]

I basically said Al has better shot selection. Most prominent players in the league have better shot selection than Iggy.

Also, I am not sure what makes you so certain Iggy can contribute towards winning anymore than Al could. Iggy failed miserably when he was the 3rd option in Philly and has been equally as bad as a "franchise" player. The winningest basketball he has played was with a 7th seeded Eastern Conference team....and he struggled mightily in the playoffs.

Yeah yeah I know Al's teams have seen even less success. However, with the exception of this years Nets team, Al's Celtics and Wolves teams (practically the same team after the KG trade) have been just about the next 2 worst teams over the years. He really hasn't even had a chance. While Philly hasn't been anything special, they have still had better teams around Iggy than anything Al's been dealt.

Iggy is an extremely talented player, but I just don't like where his head is at. I don't like the decisions he makes. He is pouty and whiny. He has terrible body language and lacks any serious leadership intangibles. Getting paid like a franchise player has gone to his head. He tries way to hard to live up to that billing and just forces the game way too much. I do think the triangle would help his game a lot though. He still wouldn't be a true number one scorer and I don't think he and Beasley are really a great match on the perimeter though.

I am actually very very high on Thaddeus Young. I'd rather have him.

[Tango21]

I can agree with some of that. Im one of those people who's been dying to get a franchise 2/3 or wing or whatever you wanna call it since we traded Roy. Also I would really love to start getting a defensive squad on the floor so we dont have to watch GSW beat us by 40. So thats where im coming from. I really wanted Turner, didnt work out. Hopefully Kahn can get someone better than Iggy, i just dont know whos out there that we can get.

He boards well, dishes the rock a bit, viscious dunks, and plays intense defense. I still think Iggy could contribute more just because of how good a defender he is. With Al, you basically need a D Howard or Yao type defensive center with him if you want to contend on a championship level.

But i think it's all moot tho if Kahn did actually say Iggy's paid too much. When Kahn has said he didnt like certain contracts, he hasn't gone after them. I just hope Kahn can land someone at the deadline or next offseason with all the flexibility we have cap wise. Because unlike this year when we didnt use it, we wont have a pick next year. Make it happen Kahn