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what the hell did Gaines do so wrong? and what did Price do so well? I don't really see why people like Price so much better than Gaines.
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The Jazz are pros at finding diamonds in the rough. I don't imagine there will be much draw for Mike James. So if I am KOC I wait it out 'til training camp. I bring in players like Augustine. Undrafted or unsigned players, give them a shot at the team and go from there. Look what the Jazz did with Wes Mathews. If nothing shows by then, then I honestly sign a D-leaguer for pennies to round out the roster. That way if a player does become available for one of our TPEs we aren't nearly as strapped as if we signed the vet min. Even a player like Josh Boone would be an intriguing pickup. Definitely never scratched his potential in NJ, however there is potential there. If anyone can dig it out, it's Sloan and Co.
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Maybe this is the first year you've watched the Jazz, but we've been knocked out of the playoffs three years straight by the Lakers. Even before they were the THE NBA 2010 CHAMPIONS, and when we were healthy. Also, again I may forgive you for this since you're new to the fanbase, but "This year, we have AK back healthy..." - Isn't that how every season starts, with AK healthy? It's more likely that AK has some nagging injury come playoffs, than not. Plus Memo will not come back from that injury at 100%. Even once he is cleared to play, he will still be a step slower for a while before he gets his conditioning back.
And he even said he wanted to play here. HOW CAN YOU NOT GO FOR IT TO "WAIT" FOR SOMETHING BETTER??????
Honestly? A players willingness to play in Utah somehow translates to talent? I'm sure Micheal Vick would be willing to play in Utah at this point. Doesn't mean the Jazz should sign him to back up D-Will?
BTW, since we have been arguing this, you have failed to post ANY possibility of "something better".
Ummmmm, again just about every post you make is contradictory. Remember this little nugget...
"Also, the swing players you suggested are going to get paid 2-3X more then Mike James would."
So which is it? Have I "failed to post ANY possibility of 'something better'", or are the "swing players you suggested are going to get paid 2-3X more then Mike James would"? You seem to be confused. On that note, since we've started arguing this point, you have failed to rightly justify how Mike James, who in his best season averaged less than 6 assists.... again, SIX ASSISTS, would solidify our backcourt. You claim it, you just don't justify it. So let's here it. If Mike James averaged 5.8 assists in his best season, starting 79 games, how does that suddenly solidify the backcourt for a team who is defined by the PG's ability to distribute?
C'mon now...
There are things known as intangibles. What is Fisher's career high in APG??? Yet his impact on our team has been SORELY MISSED since he left. Also, how many season's has Mike James played in a system of a team that "is defined by the PG's ability to distribute"?
Veteran experience.
Tougness.
Solid defense.
Good shooter.
Those are things that we have been lacking and has been a topic of argument here for overy two years. Those are the things that Mike James can bring to our team.

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Bradford wrote:what the hell did Gaines do so wrong? and what did Price do so well? I don't really see why people like Price so much better than Gaines.
Aside from a GW 3 vs LeDouche, SUCK BALLS!!
Price on the other hand, has been really good at what he is good at. Good pressure defense, tons of energy and heart and the occasional 3s to fall. He has single handedly brought us back into games and even "won" them for us (@ LAC late last season). He however struggles at running our team and being a floor leader. He is a good energy spark of the bench kind of guy, but not solid enough that we can count on his contribution and give DWill enough rest.
Mike James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaines for his name and reputation alone (not to mention FT shooting).

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I would also love West for about 2 million. I think he would be perfect for the jazz system.StevieShawn wrote:i rather take a risk on delonte west
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Jazzfan Bayamon wrote:
There are things known as intangibles. What is Fisher's career high in APG??? Yet his impact on our team has been SORELY MISSED since he left. .
Well that is actually a great point. Fisher does not average many assists. Good point there. However, I do not see Mike James having the same intangibles as Fisher. I see him more as a Brevin Knight type player. Fishers biggest addition to this team was his leadership. I don't see Mike James bringing that. But maybe I am just biased against him because I haven't seen him play enough. Or maybe he really isn't the right fit. Either way, I'll trust in KOC whatever he decides to do.
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QuantumMacgyver wrote:Jazzfan Bayamon wrote:
There are things known as intangibles. What is Fisher's career high in APG??? Yet his impact on our team has been SORELY MISSED since he left. .
Well that is actually a great point. Fisher does not average many assists. Good point there. However, I do not see Mike James having the same intangibles as Fisher. I see him more as a Brevin Knight type player. Fishers biggest addition to this team was his leadership. I don't see Mike James bringing that. But maybe I am just biased against him because I haven't seen him play enough. Or maybe he really isn't the right fit. Either way, I'll trust in KOC whatever he decides to do.
Maybe you could argue that James's impact would be similar to what Knight's was here, but he's definitely not the same type of player as Knight. At all. He's actually much more similar to Fisher in terms of style and abilities, only with more quickness and shot creating ability (or, at least, he had more of those things in his prime than Fisher ever has). He probably wouldn't bring quite the intangibles or leadership that Fisher did, but, at the very least, he's a tough vet with championship experience and the ability to hit outside shots and defend.
I haven't watched enough of James in the last year or two to know how much he still has left in the tank, but he's nothing like Knight or Hart (two guys who didn't make a ton of mistakes and had high A/TO ratios but couldn't shoot or create to save their lives) and (in my mind) he's more than likely still better than Price and Gaines. I too would prefer West, but I think James would be a decent addition. If nothing else, we could use another tough veteran who can shoot, even if he's our third string point guard.
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Jazzfan Bayamon wrote:Last year's playoffs we had a big man rotation of Boozer, Millsap and Fess, and we beat the Nuggets and gave LA 3 close games (we could have won all three). You don't really think a big man rotation of AK, Millsap and Al can't do better or at the very least equal that untill Memo comes back??? And if we do resign Fes then it's even better.
lol. It was the closest sweep in the history of sports.
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Yeah, I don't think the series was embarrassing, but the fact remains: we were swept.
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I'm not really sure how you can say he "sucks balls", considering right after that game-winning shot, his playing time was non-existent. I think, given a chance, he can be better than Price. I don't think I can stand another season of watching Price brick shot after shot.Jazzfan Bayamon wrote:Bradford wrote:what the hell did Gaines do so wrong? and what did Price do so well? I don't really see why people like Price so much better than Gaines.
Aside from a GW 3 vs LeDouche, SUCK BALLS!!
Price on the other hand, has been really good at what he is good at. Good pressure defense, tons of energy and heart and the occasional 3s to fall. He has single handedly brought us back into games and even "won" them for us (@ LAC late last season). He however struggles at running our team and being a floor leader. He is a good energy spark of the bench kind of guy, but not solid enough that we can count on his contribution and give DWill enough rest.
Mike James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaines for his name and reputation alone (not to mention FT shooting).