[Build A Team 4.0] Discussion Thread

[moocow007]

@ Moocow... I LOVE the Caron Butler selection, absolute steal... but I don't see it as a great fit. Who's going to knock down the 3 ball on your roster, assuming you don't draft a shooting 5.

Still got a long draft ahead of us yet and we have 3 picks coming up real soon in relative quick procession.

We may yet go the route of what I did with Al Harrington in BAT 3.0 with Butler.

Plus as Fury said...you don't necessarily need a 3 point shooter in the starting rotation to be elite.

[albert]

I enjoyed the selection of pictures for Calderon. Very nice.

[2010]

Damn mods are representing. I'm liking Moo + Mags teams above all right now.

Moo's team gives me a run for my money but I firmly stand by the belief that my team schits on Mags'

PG- Ricky Rubio
SG- Kevin Martin
SF- Danny Granger
PF- (got a surprise for you suckaz)
C- Yao Ming

Well.... the thing is...

Rubio - Never played in the NBA before.
Yao - Injured till the break, and might have to retire.

Lets be honest here, yeah Rubio never played an NBA game but all of you dudes would line up to FELATE him if "we" (the *real* Knicks) had an opportunity to acquire him. In addition to that fact, the kid has been playing pro ball since he was FOURTEEN and more than held his own against the very best the NBA had to offer in the 2008 Olympics so he'll be fine starting at PG.

As for Yao, he is NOT slated to be injured until the all-star break (more false propoganda in an effort to slander my team) and he is fully expected to be ready for opening night tip off (in reality) for the Houston Rockets (NBA team) and the LA Lakers (2010's Build A Team).

[TheBluest]

RealGM WireTap......4 Team Trade Won't Get Done

Bobcats=(183)-(7th), (205-(7th), (281)-(11th) giving up 5th, 11th, 13th
Thunder=(172)-(6th), (178)-(6th), (304)-(11th) giving up 5th, 7th, 11th
Knicks=(140)-(5th), (271)-(10th), (384)-(13th) giving up 6th, 7th, 13th
Mavericks=(157)-(5th), (200)-(7th), (363)-(13rth) giving up 6th, 7th, 10th

TheBluest GM of the Bobcats was looking to swap picks across 4 teams for an ultimate team Blockbuster. Bobcats had little help in working this deal as it was mainly pushed by their GM. There was small encouragement from one, possibly two GMs..... to get players involved to help spice the deal and pizzazz the B.A.T., but one GM continued to remain dissatisfied throughout the ordeal after multiple scenarios were presented wanting more compensation. 3 of the 4 GMs involved wanted to move into the 4rth or 5th rounds but as the deal was being discussed at depth a couple were willing to back down off their initial demands as long as depth would be made up in immediate rounds thereafter. After much deliberation they were amicable to making this deal work.

Chris Ruhtard is reporting the Bobcats main goal throughout all of this was to appease all parties involved and spark life into a Draft that has ultimately had many disappointments throughout. BSPN was even willing to allow all GMs to have a 1 hour special segment to announce where they will be taking their swapped picks to. Many GMs across the league thought this deal would never get done from the start because of the enormity, magnitude, and scope of picks involved and thus they were proven correct.

Marc Stein is also reporting Bobcats GM will no longer entertain any deals unless he hires an Ast GM, as his time is proving to be more precious in the B.A.T. as it drags along.

[Mecca]

Well.... the thing is...

Rubio - Never played in the NBA before.
Yao - Injured till the break, and might have to retire.

Lets be honest here, yeah Rubio never played an NBA game but all of you dudes would line up to FELATE him if "we" (the *real* Knicks) had an opportunity to acquire him. In addition to that fact, the kid has been playing pro ball since he was FOURTEEN and more than held his own against the very best the NBA had to offer in the 2008 Olympics so he'll be fine starting at PG.

As for Yao, he is NOT slated to be injured until the all-star break (more false propoganda in an effort to slander my team) and he is fully expected to be ready for opening night tip off (in reality) for the Houston Rockets (NBA team) and the LA Lakers (2010's Build A Team).

Houston Rockets center Yao Ming is considering quitting basketball after next season if he doesn't fully recover from his lingering foot injury. In comments to Chinese state media Monday, Yao sounded far from optimistic about his future and also made a rare criticism of China's national basketball program. "If the foot injury does not heal next season, I might choose to call it quits," he said.

Even then.... he's injury prone, and at 7'6, he'll never be the same, and he will be very injury prone.

[2010]

^ bingo. your team might schit on a toilet, 2010.

PG- Rubio > Kidd
SG- Martin > x
SF- Granger >>> Ariza
PF- x <<< Stoudemire
C- Yao >>> McGee

[2010]

Damn mods are representing. I'm liking Moo + Mags teams above all right now.

Moo's team gives me a run for my money but I firmly stand by the belief that my team schits on Mags'

PG- Ricky Rubio
SG- Kevin Martin
SF- Danny Granger
PF- (got a surprise for you suckaz)
C- Yao Ming

I definitely feel that The Hornets belong in this conversation.

I feel you team is very tough and all the pieces definitely fit. A legit contender.

[Im Coming Home]

Did I pick Afflalo too early?

[Fury]

I think Afflalo is a solid fit for your team.

[2010]

No offense 2010, but I still don't believe Rubio should be considered as part of your Starting Lineup. Sure, he was eligible to be drafted...but the guy isn't going to step foot into this league for at least another year, if ever. When we talked about the addition of international prospects who have their rights held by NBA teams, we spoke of being able to draft them as ASSETS to the franchise...much like they are today. And should be judged as just that...an asset.

If it wasn't the case...Rubio would have been selected much earlier than the mid-3rd pick you drafted him with. I can assure you he would have at least been mine at 25, let alone my 52nd.

To be honest and quite frank, your opinion doesn't matter. THE COMMISH and THE RULES say that you have no argument. Rubio will be counted as my starting PG whether your or anyone else likes it or not. It's not a matter of personal opinion. The rules state he was eligible to be counted and judged on the same basis as any other player drafted in this BAT. Anything else is just H8N!

[Mecca]

^ bingo. your team might schit on a toilet, 2010.

PG- Rubio > Kidd
SG- Martin > x
SF- Granger >>> Ariza
PF- x <<< Stoudemire
C- Yao >>> McGee

Seems like you haven't responded to my post... previous page, last post....

But, I would say 2010's team is a lot better than starks', but there are just too many questions on that roster.

What is Rubio being counted as?
Yao is a walking glass vas.
Can Granger be a legit #1 on a contender?
Can Rubio run a half court offense?

Your team has a lot of good complimentary pieces, but I wouldn't put you in the top 5. Probably top 10.

[Im Coming Home]

I think Afflalo is a solid fit for your team.

It was tough, I had targeted Bargs early, than Murphy late. Both were picked earlier than in BAT 3.0, so unfortunately I had to go with another whole in the lineup at the 3 and I felt since Vince Carter was getting older, it would be easier to guard the 3 and have Afflalo who is a very good defender guard the 2.

[albert]

He is a good fit, but I would've gone with size/length to put next to Dwight right now.

Though, maybe subliminally, the Derozan pick might have influenced you with thinking that these young 2 guards will start going off the board soon.

[Im Coming Home]

He is a good fit, but I would've gone with size/length to put next to Dwight right now.

Though, maybe subliminally, the Derozan pick might have influenced you with thinking that these young 2 guards will start going off the board soon.

As I stated above, my two main targets for PF were gone, I have a new target but I'm almost 100% certain I can wait on him because he's an unknown.

[albert]

He is a good fit, but I would've gone with size/length to put next to Dwight right now.

Though, maybe subliminally, the Derozan pick might have influenced you with thinking that these young 2 guards will start going off the board soon.

As I stated above, my two main targets for PF were gone, I have a new target but I'm almost 100% certain I can wait on him because he's an unknown.

Can't argue that logic. Hope you get your guy.

[2010]

Lets be honest here, yeah Rubio never played an NBA game but all of you dudes would line up to FELATE him if "we" (the *real* Knicks) had an opportunity to acquire him. In addition to that fact, the kid has been playing pro ball since he was FOURTEEN and more than held his own against the very best the NBA had to offer in the 2008 Olympics so he'll be fine starting at PG.

As for Yao, he is NOT slated to be injured until the all-star break (more false propoganda in an effort to slander my team) and he is fully expected to be ready for opening night tip off (in reality) for the Houston Rockets (NBA team) and the LA Lakers (2010's Build A Team).

Houston Rockets center Yao Ming is considering quitting basketball after next season if he doesn't fully recover from his lingering foot injury. In comments to Chinese state media Monday, Yao sounded far from optimistic about his future and also made a rare criticism of China's national basketball program. "If the foot injury does not heal next season, I might choose to call it quits," he said.

Even then.... he's injury prone, and at 7'6, he'll never be the same, and he will be very injury prone.

By the way, regarding your commentary...this guy also was a 7'2"+ footer who successfully came back from multiple foot injuries:



Yao on bad wheels is still better than 75% of the centers in the league!

[2010]

^ bingo. your team might schit on a toilet, 2010.

PG- Rubio > Kidd
SG- Martin > x
SF- Granger >>> Ariza
PF- x <<< Stoudemire
C- Yao >>> McGee

Seems like you haven't responded to my post... previous page, last post....

But, I would say 2010's team is a lot better than starks', but there are just too many questions on that roster.

What is Rubio being counted as?
Yao is a walking glass vas.
Can Granger be a legit #1 on a contender?
Can Rubio run a half court offense?

Your team has a lot of good complimentary pieces, but I wouldn't put you in the top 5. Probably top 10.

READ THE RULES!!! The commish and the rules area of the stickied post indicates Rubio must be judged on the same scale as any other player drafted in this BAT

Yao is NOT been reported to be scheduled to definitively miss any games this season. He simply said in an interview that IF he isn't fully recovered he will retire rather than go for another contract once his current deal expires. Basketball is not his ONLY calling in life. That's all he said basically.

Could Billups or Rip Hamilton be a legit #1 on a contender? Oh yeah, I forgot...they won a championship in that role. If they can do manage it I'm sure a talent like Granger can.

What type of offense do you think Rubio runs in Europe? He is a PICK AND ROLL point guard that runs opportunistically!

[ManiaX]

@ Moocow... I LOVE the Caron Butler selection, absolute steal... but I don't see it as a great fit. Who's going to knock down the 3 ball on your roster, assuming you don't draft a shooting 5.

Still got a long draft ahead of us yet and we have 3 picks coming up real soon in relative quick procession.

We may yet go the route of what I did with Al Harrington in BAT 3.0 with Butler.

Plus as Fury said...you don't necessarily need a 3 point shooter in the starting rotation to be elite.

In case you do want a 3-ball shooter, I will be more than happy to do a JR Smith - Caron Butler swap with you.

[Th3TrueDynesty]

I think I want to put Mayo back to SG.
I'll be accepting any offers for Ray Allen.
I'm preferably gonna want a PG back.

Email me at jeshman12@yahoo.com


I'm just looking to see what kind of value I can get back right now I'm not looking to make a trade any time soon.

[swisscheeseD]

No offense 2010, but I still don't believe Rubio should be considered as part of your Starting Lineup. Sure, he was eligible to be drafted...but the guy isn't going to step foot into this league for at least another year, if ever. When we talked about the addition of international prospects who have their rights held by NBA teams, we spoke of being able to draft them as ASSETS to the franchise...much like they are today. And should be judged as just that...an asset.

If it wasn't the case...Rubio would have been selected much earlier than the mid-3rd pick you drafted him with. I can assure you he would have at least been mine at 25, let alone my 52nd.

To be honest and quite frank, your opinion doesn't matter. THE COMMISH and THE RULES say that you have no argument. Rubio will be counted as my starting PG whether your or anyone else likes it or not. It's not a matter of personal opinion. The rules state he was eligible to be counted and judged on the same basis as any other player drafted in this BAT. Anything else is just H8N!

To be honest and quite frank, my opinion DOES matter. According to these same RULES, we who participate will be the one's who judge our peers and ultimately decide a winner.

You know I'm not "H8N", but his situation was addressed after the last BAT. For whatever reason, after he was selected...he's all of a sudden allowed to be considered on the active roster. All I'm saying is that if this was the case, he wouldn't have been available to be selected when you got him. I guarantee you that.

I guess I can also draft Rasheed Wallace and bring him out of retirement...or have Fran Vasquez backing up Robin Lopez. Damn, maybe I'll just see if Michael Jordan is willing to come out of retirement while I'm at it.