[Build A Team 4.0] Discussion Thread Part II -*SPEED ROUNDS*

[2010]

Trading Evan Turner for upcoming pick and a big man.

Evan Turner's value isn't much in this BAT as I'm sure you're finding out. You should have taken the 3-way I was trying to orchestrate with you between you, myself and LJ

I really dont see why. He doesnt fit my team but he is a very good pick. I have gotten no offers for Evan Turner or Tyreke Evans. I dont see why that is.

Yes he is a good pick but GMs are scared to trade valuable assets for him for a couple reasons:

— had a miserable summer league
— he flourishes with the ball in his hands so if you have a ball-dominant PG it's not a match
— he is a SG who cannot shoot, he's more of a facilitator/penetrator
— his biggest value is that if you have a roster with shooters (like mine) you can play him at PG where he may excel

[I am Ra]

My pick is coming up in 5 spots, but I'm sure it will be held up by "St.Knick (Cavs)" before it actually gets to me. But I'm heading to the Mariners game in a few, and I won't be around to make my selection, if for some reason he actually makes his pick on time (just messin' with ya St.Knick).

Can someone make my selection for me, someone who is not trying to trade up nor has a pick around my selection?

i got you email me if you like. knicksgiantsfan@yahoo.com

[2010]

I do like the D'Andre Jordan pick as he's the perfect compliment to Roy Hibbert:

Hibbert = stiff | Jordan = athletic
Hibbert = lumbering | Jordan = gazelle
Hibbert = soft touch | Jordan = raw
Hibbert = offensively skilled | Jordan = defense, rebounding, putbacks

[swisscheeseD]

My pick is coming up in 5 spots, but I'm sure it will be held up by "St.Knick (Cavs)" before it actually gets to me. But I'm heading to the Mariners game in a few, and I won't be around to make my selection, if for some reason he actually makes his pick on time (just messin' with ya St.Knick).

Can someone make my selection for me, someone who is not trying to trade up nor has a pick around my selection?

i got you email me if you like. knicksgiantsfan@yahoo.com

Thanks "I am Ra"...emailed you my selection.

[magnumt]

Well magnumt, how much better is your roster for Lebron compared to what the Cavs had for him.

Cavs had Mo Williams at the point, Jamison at the 4, Shaq/Varejao/Ilgauskas at the 5, and a young stud in JJ Hickson at the 4.

Mo > Calderon
Shaq/Varejao/Ilgauskas > or = Okafor
Hickson = or < Thomas

It's debateable if West and Okafor can play well together. I mean how did they look to you this year with the Hornets?

I do not like the idea of moving Lebron to the 2 and praying that Jamison works as a full time SF. I think you need to either trade Jamison or West.

Ctoress I love ya man, but are you . Those comparisons are waaaaaay off. The current Knicks are a better setup than what the Cavs 60 Win Team fielded as 6-Man Rotation Comparison.

-- Jose Calderon's Passign AND Scoring ability is great than Mo. Coming off two back-to-back 8.5+ APG Seasons prior to last, and TREMENDOUS shooting %s from 3PT, FG, and FT.

-- David West>>>>>>>>>>>>>than ANY PF the Cavs fielded. Not only is he an All-Star (and he didn't have to beg like Mo did ), but he averaged 19 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 3 APG (for a Big Man) on 50% FG and 86.5% FT.

Before that, he had two back-to-back Seasons of 21 PPG, 8-9 RPG, 2.3 APG, and 1 BPG, all in the WEST.

-- Emeka Okafur > Than the aging and on last legs combo of Shaq/Big Z that the Cavs fielded last Year on limited minutes each. He is more athletic, can run the floor in a fast Game with Lebron, and Blocks and Rebounds at a superior rate.

-- Jamison = Jamison

-- Tyrus Thomas > Hickson. His Defense and athleticism fit this Team better than JJ would, and compliment our scoring Big Men (West and Jamison) well alongside Okafur at different times in Games.

On a closign Note, this Team so far (as Miklo alluded to before) is better than the Supporting Cast The Cavs gave Lebron.

So yeah bro,

On your own Team Ctoress, who the hell plays Defense? My Team would murder yours on Defense AND Offense.

PG: Jose Calderson >>>> Jonny Flynn
SG: Lebron James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Than whoever you want to field
SF: Jamison = Rashard Lewis (but atleast I don't have his HORRENDOUS Contract bogging down my Team)
PF: David West = Carlos Boozer
C: Emeka Okafur > Marc Gasol

Bench: You have none right now, compared to my Tyrus Thomas

=================================

Can Of Pease, I looooooooooove your Team. It's like the Thunder Team (ready for the now and future), and you have a ton of Cap Space too. Great job bro!

--Mags

[I am Ra]

Yes he is a good pick but GMs are scared to trade valuable assets for him for a couple reasons:

— had a miserable summer league
— he flourishes with the ball in his hands so if you have a ball-dominant PG it's not a match
— he is a SG who cannot shoot, he's more of a facilitator/penetrator
— his biggest value is that if you have a roster with shooters (like mine) you can play him at PG where he may excel

i get your points but how can someone who shoots .519 FG .758 FT .364 3PT be a bad shooter?

[Im Coming Home]

Hey gallo-

I will accept this trade if you still want to do it. I have to go out and won't be home when my pick comes up so you can copy and paste this email if you want into the right spot.

177/184 for 143/263

It is the trade we talked about before.

-----Original Message-----
From: gallosourfuture@aim.com
To: bish1324@aol.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: RealGM BAT Trade

Copy and pasted from the email.
The Wizards accept? I guess Bish will have to accept too, even tho he won't be here.

Wizards Send: 6th(#177) & 7th(#184)

Spurs Send: 5th(#143) & 9th(#263)

[Mecca]

Well magnumt, how much better is your roster for Lebron compared to what the Cavs had for him.

Cavs had Mo Williams at the point, Jamison at the 4, Shaq/Varejao/Ilgauskas at the 5, and a young stud in JJ Hickson at the 4.

Mo > Calderon
Shaq/Varejao/Ilgauskas > or = Okafor
Hickson = or < Thomas

It's debateable if West and Okafor can play well together. I mean how did they look to you this year with the Hornets?

I do not like the idea of moving Lebron to the 2 and praying that Jamison works as a full time SF. I think you need to either trade Jamison or West.

Ctoress I love ya man, but are you . Those comparisons are waaaaaay off. The current Knicks are a better setup than what the Cavs 60 Win Team fielded as 6-Man Rotation Comparison.

-- Jose Calderon's Passign AND Scoring ability is great than Mo. Coming off two back-to-back 8.5+ APG Seasons prior to last, and TREMENDOUS shooting %s from 3PT, FG, and FT.

-- David West>>>>>>>>>>>>>than ANY PF the Cavs fielded. Not only is he an All-Star (and he didn't have to beg like Mo did ), but he averaged 19 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 3 APG (for a Big Man) on 50% FG and 86.5% FT.

Before that, he had two back-to-back Seasons of 21 PPG, 8-9 RPG, 2.3 APG, and 1 BPG, all in the WEST.

-- Emeka Okafur > Than the aging and on last legs combo of Shaq/Big Z that the Cavs fielded last Year on limited minutes each. He is more athletic, can run the floor in a fast Game with Lebron, and Blocks and Rebounds at a superior rate.

-- Jamison = Jamison

-- Tyrus Thomas > Hickson. His Defense and athleticism fit this Team better than JJ would, and compliment our scoring Big Men (West and Jamison) well alongside Okafur at different times in Games.

On a closign Note, this Team so far (as Miklo alluded to before) is better than the Supporting Cast The Cavs gave Lebron.

So yeah bro,

On your own Team Ctoress, who the hell plays Defense? My Team would murder yours on Defense AND Offense.

PG: Jose Calderson >>>> Jonny Flynn
SG: Lebron James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Than whoever you want to field
SF: Jamison = Rashard Lewis (but atleast I don't have his HORRENDOUS Contract bogging down my Team)
PF: David West = Carlos Boozer
C: Emeka Okafur > Marc Gasol

Bench: You have none right now, compared to my Tyrus Thomas

=================================

Can Of Pease, I looooooooooove your Team. It's like the Thunder Team (ready for the now and future), and you have a ton of Cap Space too. Great job bro!

--Mags

Here is where I don't understand your roster.

- West and Okafor didn't work out in New Orleans, why would they work in New York? They are both half-court players....

- Calderon is a pass 1st PG, that excels in an uptempo system, yet West/Okafor aren't built for that.

- LBJ can run in any system, but he does better when his bigs aren't eating up the inside.

- Jamison is getting old, and I don't think he can guard any 3's in the NBA anymore.

It looks like you'll be running a half court team with an uptempo PG.... I don't get it.

Also, Boozer>>>>>>West and Gasol>>>>>Okafor

Very good team? Yeah, but top 3, I don't think so...

[H20KilledHeat]

sixers select 6'7 Xavier Henry:

He is unsigned.

[Mecca]

sixers select 6'7 Xavier Henry:

He is unsigned.

They still have his rights...

[swisscheeseD]

Miami Heat are now on the Clock until 10:08 PM EST

Moo, don't forget that PM we discussed. , Thanks again bro!

--Mags

Actually...2k2 is up.

140. Oklahoma City Thunder

[magnumt]

Well magnumt, how much better is your roster for Lebron compared to what the Cavs had for him.

Cavs had Mo Williams at the point, Jamison at the 4, Shaq/Varejao/Ilgauskas at the 5, and a young stud in JJ Hickson at the 4.

Mo > Calderon
Shaq/Varejao/Ilgauskas > or = Okafor
Hickson = or < Thomas

It's debateable if West and Okafor can play well together. I mean how did they look to you this year with the Hornets?

I do not like the idea of moving Lebron to the 2 and praying that Jamison works as a full time SF. I think you need to either trade Jamison or West.

Ctoress I love ya man, but are you . Those comparisons are waaaaaay off. The current Knicks are a better setup than what the Cavs 60 Win Team fielded as 6-Man Rotation Comparison.

-- Jose Calderon's Passign AND Scoring ability is great than Mo. Coming off two back-to-back 8.5+ APG Seasons prior to last, and TREMENDOUS shooting %s from 3PT, FG, and FT.

-- David West>>>>>>>>>>>>>than ANY PF the Cavs fielded. Not only is he an All-Star (and he didn't have to beg like Mo did ), but he averaged 19 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 3 APG (for a Big Man) on 50% FG and 86.5% FT.

Before that, he had two back-to-back Seasons of 21 PPG, 8-9 RPG, 2.3 APG, and 1 BPG, all in the WEST.

-- Emeka Okafur > Than the aging and on last legs combo of Shaq/Big Z that the Cavs fielded last Year on limited minutes each. He is more athletic, can run the floor in a fast Game with Lebron, and Blocks and Rebounds at a superior rate.

-- Jamison = Jamison

-- Tyrus Thomas > Hickson. His Defense and athleticism fit this Team better than JJ would, and compliment our scoring Big Men (West and Jamison) well alongside Okafur at different times in Games.

On a closign Note, this Team so far (as Miklo alluded to before) is better than the Supporting Cast The Cavs gave Lebron.

So yeah bro,

On your own Team Ctoress, who the hell plays Defense? My Team would murder yours on Defense AND Offense.

PG: Jose Calderson >>>> Jonny Flynn
SG: Lebron James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Than whoever you want to field
SF: Jamison = Rashard Lewis (but atleast I don't have his HORRENDOUS Contract bogging down my Team)
PF: David West = Carlos Boozer
C: Emeka Okafur > Marc Gasol

Bench: You have none right now, compared to my Tyrus Thomas

=================================

Can Of Pease, I looooooooooove your Team. It's like the Thunder Team (ready for the now and future), and you have a ton of Cap Space too. Great job bro!

--Mags

Here is where I don't understand your roster.

- West and Okafor didn't work out in New Orleans, why would they work in New York? They are both half-court players....

- Calderon is a pass 1st PG, that excels in an uptempo system, yet West/Okafor aren't built for that.

- LBJ can run in any system, but he does better when his bigs aren't eating up the inside.

- Jamison is getting old, and I don't think he can guard any 3's in the NBA anymore.

It looks like you'll be running a half court team with an uptempo PG.... I don't get it.

Also, Boozer>>>>>>West and Gasol>>>>>Okafor

Very good team? Yeah, but top 3, I don't think so...

1. The Hornets were a 50+ Win Team in the WEST the Year prior, last Year they got hit with the injury bug hard.

2. West and Okafur run with Paul and Collison all the time, wtf are going on about?

3. You're on crack (most think so anyway about you) if you think that Boozer/Marc Gasol >>>> West/Okafur FrontCourt. Mine plays Defense AND Offense. Familiarize yourself with that concept.

4. I'm debating whether swapping Jamison or Tyrus, but either way both are superior to the SGs/SFs the Cavs had.

5. This Team is a Top 3 Team for sure, your again on crack if you think otherwise.

[magnumt]

sixers select 6'7 Xavier Henry:

He is unsigned.

He is selectable.

@Swiss: Fixed, thanks bro.

[H20KilledHeat]

sixers select 6'7 Xavier Henry:

He is unsigned.

He is selectable.

But what about:

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Roster:

5. What Players are eligible to be on your Team or be Drafted?
Any Player signed by Aug 1st, 2010 of this Year's Free Agency.

[Im Coming Home]

1. The Hornets were a 50+ Win Team in the WEST the Year prior, last Year they got hit with the injury bug hard.

2. West and Okafur run with Paul and Collison all the time, wtf are going on about?

3. You're on crack (most think so anyway about you) if you think that Boozer/Marc Gasol >>>> West/Okafur FrontCourt. Mine plays Defense AND Offense. Familiarize yourself with that concept.

4. I'm debating whether swapping Jamison or Tyrus, but either way both are superior to the SGs/SFs the Cavs had.

5. This Team is a Top 3 Team for sure, your again on crack if you think otherwise.

[magnumt]

But what about:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Roster:

5. What Players are eligible to be on your Team or be Drafted?
Any Player signed by Aug 1st, 2010 of this Year's Free Agency.

Ahem:

5. What Players are eligible to be on your Team or be Drafted?

Any player that was/is on a 2009-2010 NBA ACTIVE roster. Any Player Drafted in the 2010 NBA Draft.

[Mecca]

Ctoress I love ya man, but are you . Those comparisons are waaaaaay off. The current Knicks are a better setup than what the Cavs 60 Win Team fielded as 6-Man Rotation Comparison.

-- Jose Calderon's Passign AND Scoring ability is great than Mo. Coming off two back-to-back 8.5+ APG Seasons prior to last, and TREMENDOUS shooting %s from 3PT, FG, and FT.

-- David West>>>>>>>>>>>>>than ANY PF the Cavs fielded. Not only is he an All-Star (and he didn't have to beg like Mo did ), but he averaged 19 PPG, 7.5 RPG, 3 APG (for a Big Man) on 50% FG and 86.5% FT.

Before that, he had two back-to-back Seasons of 21 PPG, 8-9 RPG, 2.3 APG, and 1 BPG, all in the WEST.

-- Emeka Okafur > Than the aging and on last legs combo of Shaq/Big Z that the Cavs fielded last Year on limited minutes each. He is more athletic, can run the floor in a fast Game with Lebron, and Blocks and Rebounds at a superior rate.

-- Jamison = Jamison

-- Tyrus Thomas > Hickson. His Defense and athleticism fit this Team better than JJ would, and compliment our scoring Big Men (West and Jamison) well alongside Okafur at different times in Games.

On a closign Note, this Team so far (as Miklo alluded to before) is better than the Supporting Cast The Cavs gave Lebron.

So yeah bro,

On your own Team Ctoress, who the hell plays Defense? My Team would murder yours on Defense AND Offense.

PG: Jose Calderson >>>> Jonny Flynn
SG: Lebron James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Than whoever you want to field
SF: Jamison = Rashard Lewis (but atleast I don't have his HORRENDOUS Contract bogging down my Team)
PF: David West = Carlos Boozer
C: Emeka Okafur > Marc Gasol

Bench: You have none right now, compared to my Tyrus Thomas

=================================

Can Of Pease, I looooooooooove your Team. It's like the Thunder Team (ready for the now and future), and you have a ton of Cap Space too. Great job bro!

--Mags

Here is where I don't understand your roster.

- West and Okafor didn't work out in New Orleans, why would they work in New York? They are both half-court players....

- Calderon is a pass 1st PG, that excels in an uptempo system, yet West/Okafor aren't built for that.

- LBJ can run in any system, but he does better when his bigs aren't eating up the inside.

- Jamison is getting old, and I don't think he can guard any 3's in the NBA anymore.

It looks like you'll be running a half court team with an uptempo PG.... I don't get it.

Also, Boozer>>>>>>West and Gasol>>>>>Okafor

Very good team? Yeah, but top 3, I don't think so...

1. The Hornets were a 50+ Win Team in the WEST the Year prior, last Year they got hit with the injury bug hard.

2. West and Okafur run with Paul and Collison all the time, wtf are going on about?

3. You're on crack (most think so anyway about you) if you think that Boozer/Marc Gasol >>>> West/Okafur FrontCourt. Mine plays Defense AND Offense. Familiarize yourself with that concept.

4. I'm debating whether swapping Jamison or Tyrus, but either way both are superior to the SGs/SFs the Cavs had.

5. This Team is a Top 3 Team for sure, your again on crack if you think otherwise.

See this is where you're off.... with your little backhanded insults as well.

Marc Gasol is a very good defender, and Boozer is a very good rebounder. I'd take that duo over West/Oka any day of the week.

West/Okafor never clicked as a combo... And they aren't made to 'run' like you're saying.

Tyrus isn't a SF, and neither is Jamison.

I'm not trying to insult you... I think your team is very good, but it just doesn't mesh well.

[I am Ra]

Anyone want to take over my team in the trades and transactions thread? I dont want to do that draft anymore since I am doing 3 GM A Teams right now. I am the Knicks and this is my team.

PG Derrick Rose Roddy Beabouis
SG Paul George
SF Nicolas Batum Austin Daye
PF Jason Thompson Patrick Patterson
C Cole Aldrich Anthony Randolph

There is no pick trading but there will be an offseason after the draft where you can trade.

[Im Coming Home]

TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT!

Hey gallo-

I will accept this trade if you still want to do it. I have to go out and won't be home when my pick comes up so you can copy and paste this email if you want into the right spot.

177/184 for 143/263

It is the trade we talked about before.

-----Original Message-----
From: gallosourfuture@aim.com
To: bish1324@aol.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 10, 2010 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: RealGM BAT Trade

Copy and pasted from the email.
The Wizards accept? I guess Bish will have to accept too, even tho he won't be here.



Wizards Send: 6th(#177) & 7th(#184)


Spurs Send: 5th(#143) & 9th(#263)

Reposted with big logos.

[NewEra]

^ Gallo is this deal valid? I completed a deal with Bish for the same pick.