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Post#1 » by Capital Edge » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:58 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/ ... id=5455809

CORTLAND, N.Y. -- The problem with head coach Rex Ryan becoming the latest member of New York Jets management to get sucked into the theater of the absurd that's sprung up around the Darrelle Revis contract holdout is, you don't answer one circus by suggesting you hold another even bigger circus.

But that's basically what Ryan did Wednesday at his midday news conference.First, Ryan unloaded a few novel ideas on how he'd settle the stalemate between Revis and the Jets. Then, he called the assertion by Revis' agents that his Jets bosses were guilty of "blatant" lies a "blatant joke."

"This is what I would like to have happen," said Ryan, whose screed was premeditated. "Everybody put their cards on the table. Have Darrelle come here with anybody he wants. We'll have [Jets owner] Mr. [Woody] Johnson here. … We'll call off practice. We'll have our whole team there to meet. That way, there's no he-said, she-said. Let's work it that way. Maybe that's how we'll get a solution."

Here's a better suggestion than some town hall-style meeting: It's time for the Jets management to go underground on these negotiations already, the way they usually do. Just shut up. Quit trying to win the battle for the hearts and minds of people who side with Revis on this, because you're not going to. And take a look around.

While Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay has said all offseason long that he intends to make Peyton Manning the highest-paid player in the league, and New England Patriots owner Bob Kraft is out playing golf with Tom Brady, skewering those reports that Brady is fuming about the pace of the talks regarding his new contract, the Jets are in a silly, public slap-fight with their franchise defensive player and his agents, Neil Schwartz and Jon Feinsod, whom they have a recurring history of problems negotiating with.

No good can come from the public way the Jets are handling this. Ryan's comments on Wednesday came on the heels of the media blitz Johnson did on Tuesday, bouncing from a team rally in Times Square to 1050 ESPN Radio to an "E:60" TV interview with Jeremy Schaap to an SNY telecast of a Mets game. The Patriots, especially, have to be watching this and laughing their sides sore. They've always sniffed and thought the Jets' love of talking was not just premature, but a sign that the Jets just don't understand some things about what it takes to be winners. Now it looks like "I told you so."

There's nothing wrong with Johnson wanting to be an out-front owner, an enthusiastic owner, an owner willing to spend money on a new stadium or suddenly bring in more big-name free agents than anyone since the Washington Redskins' Dan Snyder. But the sight of Johnson repeatedly declaring that his gut feeling is Revis won't be back this season doesn't help move unsold PSLs at the new stadium. And it sure as heck doesn't resonate with a fan base that is viewing this as arguably the most anticipated Jets season ever, and just wants Johnson to pay Revis already because Revis' talent, his value to the team, his work ethic -- none of that is in question.

The sight of Johnson launching into an unsolicited tutorial about "the beauty of contracts" in the "E:60" interview was a gaffe, too.

Maybe Johnson's intent in the interview was to take a hard-line stance that would ripple through the Jets' locker room. But the way Johnson came across was at times condescending, as if he was lecturing Revis and his agents on the finer points of doing business or how things really work. And Johnson's version of what Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum said to Revis' agents the day after the 2009 season ended was different than Tannenbaum's assertion, for weeks now, that he approached Revis' representatives that day and they agreed that Revis' contract "needs to be addressed."


"I don't think [Revis] was promised anything, as far as I know," Johnson insisted. "And the wonderful thing about a contract is that verbals don't mean anything because that's the whole point of writing something down. So if somebody inadvertently said something -- which I don't think they did -- it really has no merit."

Think about that for a second: Having a boss who says "verbals don't mean anything" and really have "no merit" isn't exactly as trust-inspiring as "I'm a man of my word," now is it?

A lack of trust is part of the stalemate here. The bickering over what exactly was said to Revis -- this whole "he-said, she-said thing" that Ryan muttered he was tired of on Wednesday -- brings back memories of similar accusations about the Jets' negotiating style by Pete Kendall, Chris Baker and, to a far lesser extent, Leon Washington before he broke his leg. It's important to note Kendall and Baker were represented by the same agents who represent Revis. Griping about broken promises seems to be part of their M.O.

Fine. There's still no reason why the Jets should get baited into these public slap-fights.

They'd have been better off Wednesday to just sit back, shut up, and let all the people who have urged Johnson to pay Revis chew on the Jets' contract-offer numbers that were leaked on Tuesday -- funny how that happens -- showing that the Jets made a highly credible 10-year, $120 million offer to Revis which he rejected.

If Revis had been satisfied enough with the amount of guaranteed money included to accept the offer, it would've ranked as the richest contract in league history -- at least until Brady and Manning's new deals are done.

That would've been something worth talking about -- not Ryan taking potshots at a couple of faceless agents, or Johnson waxing on TV about the art of the deal as Revis' holdout dragged into Day 11.

Enough.

Just tell us when Revis' deal is done.


I thought this was a great article and I honestly believe the Jets wouldn't be in this mess, if Rex kept his mouth shut from in the beginning.
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Post#2 » by Mags FTW » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:12 am

Apparently they are $40 million apart.

I'd let him sit.
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Post#3 » by LarryHarris » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:46 am

Mags FTW wrote:Apparently they are $40 million apart.

I'd let him sit.


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Post#4 » by Aaron It Out » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:20 am

He still has 3 years left on his contract so it's not like he can just walk to a different team if he's not offered the deal he wants. I'd let him sit.
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Post#5 » by El Duderino » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:42 am

Seeing all these massive contracts being handed out and ones Manning/Brady will soon get, it makes the 6yr/60 million dollar contract Rodgers got to be a massive steal for the Packers.

That said, if Rodgers plays at a near MVP level and gets the Packers to a Super Bowl this year or next year, Ted may have to upgrade the contract for Aaron.
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Post#6 » by notoriousTJ11 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:29 pm

So refreshing not having headaches like this or having to deal with Favre, its a good time to be a Packers fan
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Post#7 » by jerrod » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:30 pm

a million a year for the best defensive player in the league? pay him
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Post#8 » by chuckleslove » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:34 pm

jerrod wrote:a million a year for the best defensive player in the league? pay him



My problem is that before last year no one really knew who Revis was. Yes he had a fantastic season and he is a great cornerback but yeah.

As for him holding out vs getting paid. I can see both sides of it. He did sign a contract, but considering if he got injured or underperformed the team would just cut ties and move on I can see why it goes both ways.

I would hope they can get some compromise, he definitely deserves money. From what I've seen the team is willing to pay him more money but he wants even more than that, for that I fault him. If the team wasn't willing to pay him anything over what he is currently making then I would take his side of things.
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Post#9 » by shaolin34 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:02 pm

Am I wrong to be shocked that they offered him a 10-yr contract? Aren't deals that long only offered to the Mannings of the world? That just seems insane to me. I realize they can cut a player and only x amount is fully guaranteed, but 10 years just seems ridiculous.
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Post#10 » by Newz » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:15 pm

shaolin34 wrote:Am I wrong to be shocked that they offered him a 10-yr contract? Aren't deals that long only offered to the Mannings of the world? That just seems insane to me. I realize they can cut a player and only x amount is fully guaranteed, but 10 years just seems ridiculous.


With the NFL becoming a passing league, you want the best corner in the business tied up for as long as you can have him tied up.

No offense to Charles Woodson, who is absolutely amazing and one of my favorite football players ever... But Revis is on a different level. The guy is a cover corner on the level of guys like Deon Sanders.
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Post#11 » by LUKE23 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:35 pm

Revis is a biat. He held out on his rookie deal too. It's fine to ask for more money after ONE elite season if you're on a cheap deal, but to ask to be the highest paid corner in the league when you're locked up for three more years from now is laughable. If I'm the Jets, I let him sit. You never let the players run the show, sets a bad example.
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Post#12 » by Newz » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:42 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Revis is a biat. He held out on his rookie deal too. It's fine to ask for more money after ONE elite season if you're on a cheap deal, but to ask to be the highest paid corner in the league when you're locked up for three more years from now is laughable. If I'm the Jets, I let him sit. You never let the players run the show, sets a bad example.


Agreed.

I really thought he should have just taken the 10 year, $120 million or whatever it was that they offered. Then, if he continues to play at the level he is for another 2-3 years, ask for a little more to make him the highest paid.
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Post#13 » by jerrod » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:31 pm

the jets are thinking super bowl though, they have very little chance without him

revis has some nice leverage.

in most cases, if the team offered a decent raise and the player turned it down i'd say it's on the player. but they're gonna need him to accomplish what they want this year
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Post#14 » by LUKE23 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:36 pm

jerrod wrote:the jets are thinking super bowl though, they have very little chance without him

revis has some nice leverage.

in most cases, if the team offered a decent raise and the player turned it down i'd say it's on the player. but they're gonna need him to accomplish what they want this year


To me, the Jets are overhyped as is. Playoff team, but not a SB contender. But you never break on your management principles for a player, because that sets the tone for negotiations with future players. The Jets are starting a bad precedent if they cave, and I don't expect them to.

And I really don't see how he has leverage. If his contract expired in one year, maybe, but he has a long-time left on his deal.
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Post#15 » by jerrod » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:59 pm

they may be a little overhyped but i think they are a super bowl contender. that defense is a thing of beauty*

*with revis of course
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Post#16 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:19 pm

Revis is a special talent, but he's not the key to their Super Bowl hopes. That lies with Nacho.

The Jets can roll Cromartie, Wilson and Lowery out there with Leonard and Smith over the top. That's still a lot of talent in the backfield.
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Post#17 » by James1980 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:35 pm

It's funny that Rex Ryan was kissing Revis' ass after he didn't get the Defensive Player of the Year award and now Rex Ryan seems surprised that Revis is holding out.
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