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Thompson to Pacers what would it take? 

Post#1 » by indy_dave00 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:22 pm

As a Pacer fan I was curious what it wuld take for the Pacers to acquire Jason Thompson? With Cousins and Whiteside drafted and Dalembert acquired via trade plus Carl Landry where does Jason fit in this season?

The Pacers drafted 2 wing players Paul George and Lance Stephenson plus acquired James Posey , they appear to have a glut at the wig when you add in Granger, Dunleavy and D. Jones but aside from Hansbrough (and his vertigo) and Josh McRoberts are weak at power forward.

Brandon Rush to me would be a perfect fit with the Kings next to Evans . He is a solid defender , shoots over 40% from 3's . He and Thompso have basicly the same contracts being the 12th and 13th picks of the 2008 Draft.

Would Rush and a swap of #1's whenever it works to the Kings advantage work? I'm thinking with Carl Landry being the man at pf with the Kings and probably being a free agent the Kings will make every effort to sign him long term 8-10 mil a season , Thompson will be a free agen in a couple years can the Kings afford both im and Landry along with Cousins ?

Just curious what King fans think would be a fair trade.
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Re: Thompson to Pacers what would it take? 

Post#2 » by pillwenney » Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:36 pm

Don't suppose you guys would be interested in giving up Collison? :lol:

IMO, unless we're getting better value, we really need Jason more than is going to be either somebody of greater value, or a PG. Other than Granger obviously, none of the wings really do much for me.

We will have a crowded front court, but injuries happen, and Hassan won't be ready for big minutes this year.
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Post#3 » by indy_dave00 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:06 pm

Believe me , we are shocked we got Darren Collison . Even being forced to take Posey's 7.1 mil deal with DC2 for Murphy still saved them 3.4 mil this season and gave them a 3.4 trade exception.

I'm not a big Brandon Rush fan myself but see him as the type of sg that can help on defense and hits the open 3 if he stays here with Collison's driving ability he should do well, spotting up and shooting the 3.

I was thinking perhaps the Kings management was down a little on Thompson after acquiring Landry , and thought a Rush/ Thompson trade might help both teams. With Landry getting big minutes at pf.

Depending on the next basic agreement between the nba and the players the Pacers should be in excellent postition to make a run at Landry if he becomes an unrestricted free agent after this season. The Pacers will be at least 20 mil under the cap with 33 mil+ in expiring contracts after this season.
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Post#4 » by ICMTM » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:20 pm

The Kings didn't put Jason on the bench once they got Landry they moved him to center. Depending who you talk to Jason is the future 4 on this team. I don't care who else is on the roster Landry isn't a solution as a starting PF. He's too small and doesn't rebound well enough. Landry isn't the guy there.

Whiteside isn't ready. Dalembert is a C. Cousins...I think the Kings are reevaluating him and his role. I don't exactly see him as just a 5. Landry is too small. Donte Green is too frail for big time action at the 4.

I think JT really is our best option @ the 4. When you add to the fact Landry could become a FA and Whiteside may never pan out you can't move him for a PG.
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Re: Thompson to Pacers what would it take? 

Post#5 » by wiltchamberlain » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:24 pm

indy_dave00 wrote:As a Pacer fan I was curious what it wuld take for the Pacers to acquire Jason Thompson? With Cousins and Whiteside drafted and Dalembert acquired via trade plus Carl Landry where does Jason fit in this season?

The Pacers drafted 2 wing players Paul George and Lance Stephenson plus acquired James Posey , they appear to have a glut at the wig when you add in Granger, Dunleavy and D. Jones but aside from Hansbrough (and his vertigo) and Josh McRoberts are weak at power forward.

Brandon Rush to me would be a perfect fit with the Kings next to Evans . He is a solid defender , shoots over 40% from 3's . He and Thompson have basically the same contracts being the 12th and 13th picks of the 2008 Draft.

Would Rush and a swap of #1's whenever it works to the Kings advantage work? I'm thinking with Carl Landry being the man at pf with the Kings and probably being a free agent the Kings will make every effort to sign him long term 8-10 mil a season , Thompson will be a free agent in a couple years can the Kings afford both im and Landry along with Cousins ?

Just curious what King fans think would be a fair trade.


I think you're going to find most fans are satisfied with this roster going in to next season as it is. People from other fan bases seem to assume we want to get rid of Beno (but most King's fans don't) and I think most assume we want to clear out one of our bigs because of the prospects of a logjam (but most King's fans don't).

I personally think the suggested trade seems reasonable, but I don't think you'll get a lot of King's fans to agree on anything involving Thompson that doesn't involve serious talent heading the Kings way. I'd say most fans at this point are thinking "we like the team the way it is, why bother with anything unless it nets huge talent"
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Post#6 » by SacKingsPejaFan » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:14 am

Besides Collison and of course Granger, the Pacers simply don't have any pieces that fill any of the Kings' needs. Sorry, a trade won't happen.
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Post#7 » by longfellow44 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:25 am

The kings are very satisfied with the roster. It would take absolutely the best value in a trase to get them to screw with things.

My view on iur roster.

We have whiteside locked in for 4 years on the cheap
Thompson will get paid next year and we will likely offer landry a big 3 year contract likely more than he would be paid normally. This helps him make more for his career by allowing him another contract in 3 years. Basically when landry expires garcia and udrih will also be expirings and we will have just payed evans and cousins. Financially this will give the kings some serious flexibility when we start making serious progress in the post season.
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Post#8 » by dozencousins » Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:10 am

indy_dave00 wrote:As a Pacer fan I was curious what it wuld take for the Pacers to acquire Jason Thompson? With Cousins and Whiteside drafted and Dalembert acquired via trade plus Carl Landry where does Jason fit in this season?

The Pacers drafted 2 wing players Paul George and Lance Stephenson plus acquired James Posey , they appear to have a glut at the wig when you add in Granger, Dunleavy and D. Jones but aside from Hansbrough (and his vertigo) and Josh McRoberts are weak at power forward.

Brandon Rush to me would be a perfect fit with the Kings next to Evans . He is a solid defender , shoots over 40% from 3's . He and Thompso have basicly the same contracts being the 12th and 13th picks of the 2008 Draft.

Would Rush and a swap of #1's whenever it works to the Kings advantage work? I'm thinking with Carl Landry being the man at pf with the Kings and probably being a free agent the Kings will make every effort to sign him long term 8-10 mil a season , Thompson will be a free agen in a couple years can the Kings afford both im and Landry along with Cousins ?

Just curious what King fans think would be a fair trade.



The only player I can see the KINGS dealing to the Pacers before the season is GARCIA wich I dont think would happen.
Pacers dont need BENO obviously by the recent acquisition of COLLISON & none of our recent signings casn be dealy yet as far as I know & as far as J.THOMPSON is concerned the PACERS would have to be willing to give up far more in value for him right now I doubt the PACERS do it + I am sure PETRIE would want to dump GARCIA'S remaining 3-4 years left on his deal !
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Post#9 » by King Baller » Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:16 am

This trade breaks the "never trade a big for a small rule". On that reason alone the trade won't happen.

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Post#10 » by Bac2Basics » Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:44 am

Thompson to the Pacers would have to include a 3rd or 4th team as nothing that Indy is likely to give up would get Thompson as a return
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Post#11 » by SacTown Kings » Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:51 am

Rush for Thompson? Yuck I don't like it. I think Thompson has more value, I see Thompson as the future starting power forward (even if we re-sign Landy), and I just don't see Rush as a big upgrade over Garcia if he's healthy. Plus I don't see Daly sticking around long and there is a chance we lose Landry too so if we trade Thompsn we are left with DMC and Whiteside as our only bigs. So this trade is a big no go.
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Post#12 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:27 am

ICMTM wrote:The Kings didn't put Jason on the bench once they got Landry they moved him to center. Depending who you talk to Jason is the future 4 on this team. I don't care who else is on the roster Landry isn't a solution as a starting PF. He's too small and doesn't rebound well enough. Landry isn't the guy there.

Whiteside isn't ready. Dalembert is a C. Cousins...I think the Kings are reevaluating him and his role. I don't exactly see him as just a 5. Landry is too small. Donte Green is too frail for big time action at the 4.

I think JT really is our best option @ the 4. When you add to the fact Landry could become a FA and Whiteside may never pan out you can't move him for a PG.


And then proceeded to put him on the bench when is was clear that Landry and Thompson just wasn't working. And it certainly wasn't. Landry was literally handed that PF spot as soon as he walked in the door.
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Post#13 » by Kingsforlife » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:14 am

indy_dave00 wrote:As a Pacer fan I was curious what it wuld take for the Pacers to acquire Jason Thompson? With Cousins and Whiteside drafted and Dalembert acquired via trade plus Carl Landry where does Jason fit in this season?

The Pacers drafted 2 wing players Paul George and Lance Stephenson plus acquired James Posey , they appear to have a glut at the wig when you add in Granger, Dunleavy and D. Jones but aside from Hansbrough (and his vertigo) and Josh McRoberts are weak at power forward.

Brandon Rush to me would be a perfect fit with the Kings next to Evans . He is a solid defender , shoots over 40% from 3's . He and Thompso have basicly the same contracts being the 12th and 13th picks of the 2008 Draft.

Would Rush and a swap of #1's whenever it works to the Kings advantage work? I'm thinking with Carl Landry being the man at pf with the Kings and probably being a free agent the Kings will make every effort to sign him long term 8-10 mil a season , Thompson will be a free agen in a couple years can the Kings afford both im and Landry along with Cousins ?

Just curious what King fans think would be a fair trade.




http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=23yx3c5

I like Jason way more than Carl and Diop is Tyrus Thomas contracts nearly identical
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Post#14 » by Kingsforlife » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:34 am

ofcourse if we sign Varnado the trade would be shot down
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Post#15 » by kobyz » Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:40 pm

Thompson should stay, he is such a great combination to DMC for the future with his mobility, length and style of play.
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Post#16 » by OGSactownballer » Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:49 pm

We are not moving ANY of our bigs right now.

In addition, the argument that Indy has cap space next year to re-sign him doesn't wash. We have nearly asa much 2011cap space as Indy does (the second most of ANY team), and can not only re-sign (even while overpaying) either/or Daly/Carl, we would still be able to absorb a max contract player on top.
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Post#17 » by UKF » Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:36 pm

I think the chance for the Kings to trade JT has passed. It seemed to me that it would have either been Spencer or Jason to go this offseason and we know what happened. Unless Peach is given an offer he can't refuse (something involving the Lakers or Knicks ;) ) don't expect JT to be traded.
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Post#18 » by Bac2Basics » Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:53 pm

UKF wrote:I think the chance for the Kings to trade JT has passed. It seemed to me that it would have either been Spencer or Jason to go this offseason and we know what happened. Unless Peach is given an offer he can't refuse (something involving the Lakers or Knicks ;) ) don't expect JT to be traded.


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Post#19 » by ICMTM » Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:49 am

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ICMTM wrote:The Kings didn't put Jason on the bench once they got Landry they moved him to center. Depending who you talk to Jason is the future 4 on this team. I don't care who else is on the roster Landry isn't a solution as a starting PF. He's too small and doesn't rebound well enough. Landry isn't the guy there.

Whiteside isn't ready. Dalembert is a C. Cousins...I think the Kings are reevaluating him and his role. I don't exactly see him as just a 5. Landry is too small. Donte Green is too frail for big time action at the 4.

I think JT really is our best option @ the 4. When you add to the fact Landry could become a FA and Whiteside may never pan out you can't move him for a PG.


And then proceeded to put him on the bench when is was clear that Landry and Thompson just wasn't working. And it certainly wasn't. Landry was literally handed that PF spot as soon as he walked in the door.


Then when you jumped up for joy when that happened playing him along side Spencer Hawes was even worse! The dude is 6'8" and can't rebound. Everyone got a shot to show what they can do last year whether it was deserved or not! Landry proved his value will be playing with the 2nd unit. What ended up being evident was Landry was the issue! He doesn't bring enough to the game to warrant heavy (30+) minutes. On any team in the league Carl Landry isn't the answer @ the 4. Hate on JT all you want. You can't make 6'8" and not a good rebounder work for anyone.
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Post#20 » by RoyalCourtJestr » Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:56 am

I think you can make undersized/not a great rebounder work if you put a big bruiser center who dominates the glass next to him.
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