Granger or Jefferson?

Ming Kong! · Post #1 » by **Ming Kong!** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:36 pm

The Pacers front office asked to trade for a big, and Al Jefferson has a similar contract, and is fair return value. They also wanted Hayward, so as long as they can give us Hibbert or something, we could have still retain some depth at center, and they would get someone to soften the blow at SF.

Do you think it's a good trade for both teams, and would you do it as a Jazz fan? When Okur comes back, out lineup would be this..

Okur/Hibbert/Fesenko
Millsap/Kirilenko
Granger
Bell/Miles
Williams/Price

More or less. What do you guys think? Then again, we have to wait some time since we just got Al Jefferson, right? Well maybe we could do a package to include Okur/Hayward, but I doubt they'd do it.

Nate505 · Post #2 » by **Nate505** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:35 pm

I like Granger, but I'd much rather have a big who's capable of putting up 25 and 12 a night.

Phenom415 · Post #3 » by **Phenom415** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:02 pm

Wow. I take Granger. This won't happen, and if it did we'd probably have to make another move for a big, but Danny Granger truly is a GREAT player. Flat out scores on an elite level, gets a couple rebounds, blocks shots, plays passing lanes. Wow.

countrybama24 · Post #4 » by **countrybama24** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:22 pm

Ever since there was a rumor of an AK for Granger trade awhile back, I've really wanted this to happen. I gave up hope after looking at the pacers contract situation (they really don't need expirings).

Anyways, I think I would need hibbert back to let go of jefferson, but they prob wouldn't do that considering he is their only starting caliber center, and he's younger and cheaper. And Jefferson has a big injury question mark still.

The only deal I think they would do is if we traded jefferson AND millsap for hibbert + granger, but I def don't think that's worth it for us. Still, would love danny on the team, but unless we get hibbert too, idk if we can trade big al.

countrybama24 · Post #5 » by **countrybama24** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:23 pm

Oh, and if we did get hibbert, he should definitely start over okur. He needs time to develop still, but can play awesome defense. We almost grabbed him with our pick which was 3 spots later I think, I was praying draft night for roy, but 7 '2 guys don't fall much.

Post #6 » by **StocktonShorts** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:37 pm

Jefferson all day. 20/10 potential; much better rebounder than Granger. For his size, Granger is actually a sub-par rebounder, with a career average just above 5.

Also, Jefferson is two years younger than Granger.

Purch · Post #7 » by **Purch** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:05 pm

Al Jefferson has so much more potential then Granger in my oppion. The Kid already has arguably the best post game in the leauge at age 25 and has shown to be an amazing rebounder. And that's without even having screens set for him and he's constantly been double teamed without even having a good coach. He's shown he can block shots and giving the right situation and the right coach like Jerry Sloan he can develop into one of the best players in the leauge

babyjax13 · Post #8 » by **babyjax13** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:44 pm

It's a hard decision, but considering that our team has been built around a point guard and power forward for years now I think I would have to say Jefferson.

outerspacefella · Post #9 » by **outerspacefella** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:05 pm

Put it this way: Jefferson playing for Sloan is a 20/10 power forward AND CENTER.... and I can't tell you for how many years every Jazz fan in the entire Universe has had wet dreams about such a center.

Jazzfan12 · Post #10 » by **Jazzfan12** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:44 am

Granger is much better, much less injury prone, and is a much better fit for the team.

Put it this way: Jefferson playing for Sloan is a 20/10 power forward AND CENTER.... and I can't tell you for how many years every Jazz fan in the entire Universe has had wet dreams about such a center.

He's about as much of a center as Boozer.

HolyToledo · Post #11 » by **HolyToledo** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:36 am

Granger is the better player but Jefferson is a much bigger need as the Jazz bigs are extremely limited.

Soul Patch · Post #12 » by **Soul Patch** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:56 am

Build big, big men win championships, and one more big man cliche for good measure...got it...you can't teach height! I'd take Jefferson erryday of the week and thrice on Saturday. As Sunday is the day of rest.

red4hf · Post #13 » by **red4hf** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:17 am

Soul Patch wrote:Build big, big men win championships, and one more big man cliche for good measure...got it...you can't teach height! I'd take Jefferson erryday of the week and thrice on Saturday. As Sunday is the day of rest.

I agree, I really like Granger, but there's no way I would trade Big Al to get him...... Not to mention that he's actually older than Big Al, it was his second straight season missing at least 15 games, and his shooting numbers all went down across the board.......

HammerDunk · Post #14 » by **HammerDunk** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:22 am

Reading that wiretap, I'm pretty sure they would not include Granger in the trade for a big man. I doubt that organization is willing to trade him for anything less than a proven superstar, which Al is not.

Having said that, and given the choice of the two, I would still stick with big Al. The potential of what he can be combined with DWill at the point could quite possible be the most devastating PG/PF combo since our boys in the late 90s. Unstoppable is within the realm of possibility, with a pig position need filled by Al. I'm still hoping for signing AK on the cheap after next season too.

colts2004 · Post #15 » by **colts2004** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:22 am

Ming Kong! wrote:The Pacers front office asked to trade for a big, and Al Jefferson has a similar contract, and is fair return value. They also wanted Hayward, so as long as they can give us Hibbert or something, we could have still retain some depth at center, and they would get someone to soften the blow at SF.

Do you think it's a good trade for both teams, and would you do it as a Jazz fan? When Okur comes back, out lineup would be this..

Okur/Hibbert/Fesenko
Millsap/Kirilenko
Granger
Bell/Miles
Williams/Price

More or less. What do you guys think? Then again, we have to wait some time since we just got Al Jefferson, right? Well maybe we could do a package to include Okur/Hayward, but I doubt they'd do it.

Really? Really? No way in hell Larry Bird is gonna trade Hibbert and Danny for Al Jefferson! Ratard!

LjJazzman · Post #16 » by **LjJazzman** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:51 am

Y'all are insane to even consider trading Al for granger. No GM in the league would do that.

The59Sound · Post #17 » by **The59Sound** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:37 pm

Jazzfan12 wrote:He's about as much of a center as Boozer.

Considering he's started most of two seasons at Center and performed well, while Boozer has started exclusively at Power Forward, that's not particularly accurate.

Jazzfan12 · Post #18 » by **Jazzfan12** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:50 pm

LjJazzman wrote:Y'all are insane to even consider trading Al for granger. No GM in the league would do that.

Jefferson for Granger was purposed last season and was turned down by Bird immediately. Granger could have also been traded for the 4th pick, 16th pick, and Jonny Flynn, while Jefferson was traded for a trade exception.

Considering he's started most of two seasons at Center and performed well, while Boozer has started exclusively at Power Forward, that's not particularly accurate.

Boozer played half his minutes at center this year and put up stats at the position.

Post #19 » by **loserX** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:49 pm

There's no way the Pacers trade Granger for Jefferson, none, so any feelings on the part of us Jazz fans is purely hypothetical.

Ming Kong! · Post #20 » by **Ming Kong!** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:22 pm

colts2004 wrote:
Ming Kong! wrote:The Pacers front office asked to trade for a big, and Al Jefferson has a similar contract, and is fair return value. They also wanted Hayward, so as long as they can give us Hibbert or something, we could have still retain some depth at center, and they would get someone to soften the blow at SF.

Do you think it's a good trade for both teams, and would you do it as a Jazz fan? When Okur comes back, out lineup would be this..

Okur/Hibbert/Fesenko
Millsap/Kirilenko
Granger
Bell/Miles
Williams/Price

More or less. What do you guys think? Then again, we have to wait some time since we just got Al Jefferson, right? Well maybe we could do a package to include Okur/Hayward, but I doubt they'd do it.

Really? Really? No way in hell Larry Bird is gonna trade Hibbert and Danny for Al Jefferson! Ratard!

Um "RATARD" I said that since Indiana wanted Hayward (in the draft) that we could also include him if Indiana would throw in Hibbert. You have great reading comprehension.