[Build A Team 4.0] Discussion Thread Part II -*SPEED ROUNDS*
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Thank you to Mags and to the Wizards front office for making this trade happen.
I feel it will be great for both teams.
I'll speak to the benefits for the Knicks most readily since, well, I'm their Assistant GM. We felt Jamison was a spectacular pick where we got him. As our roster shaped up however, we felt that as a SF/PF, he was a bit redundant on our roster. We had too much talent piled into the 3/4 spots while we were too thin at the SG spot. Now, not only will VC be a much better starter than Raja Bell, but Raja will do what he does best and come into the game as a hard-nosed veteran defensive presence when needed.
The Wizards will benefit from our 10th round pick, but we feel nabbing a viable starting SG was more important than dropping down 2 rounds late in the draft.
I feel it will be great for both teams.
I'll speak to the benefits for the Knicks most readily since, well, I'm their Assistant GM. We felt Jamison was a spectacular pick where we got him. As our roster shaped up however, we felt that as a SF/PF, he was a bit redundant on our roster. We had too much talent piled into the 3/4 spots while we were too thin at the SG spot. Now, not only will VC be a much better starter than Raja Bell, but Raja will do what he does best and come into the game as a hard-nosed veteran defensive presence when needed.
The Wizards will benefit from our 10th round pick, but we feel nabbing a viable starting SG was more important than dropping down 2 rounds late in the draft.
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Smoke- I responded to your email.
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PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins
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magnumt wrote:Okay so I got my legit 2 Guard. How's my Team looking now!
See my SIG for my Roster.
I'm looking to package my remaining Picks to Move up. Please PM me any offers, or my Asst. GM Mod Miklo.
Thanks.
--Mags
Your team is looking way better than the last time I reviewed it. With how good Lebron is, VCs inconsistency won't matter as much and I feel as though you have solid role players who know their role. I'd look to upgrade the PG spot. Get some depth behind your center and you should be good money.
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Washington Wizards - Build a Team 4.0
C: Dwight Howard
PF: Antawn Jamison / Channing Frye
SF: Hedo Turkoglu / Brandon Rush
SG: Arron Afflalo / Brandon Rush
PG: Chauncey Billups / Toney Douglas
Thoughts on my team after the trade?
C: Dwight Howard
PF: Antawn Jamison / Channing Frye
SF: Hedo Turkoglu / Brandon Rush
SG: Arron Afflalo / Brandon Rush
PG: Chauncey Billups / Toney Douglas
Thoughts on my team after the trade?
RGM Knicks BAF- Houston Rockets

PG: Cunningham | Small | Ja. Butler
SG: Au. Thompson | Ja. Butler |
SF: B.Ingram | Bullock | LaRavia
PF: Porter Jr. | GG Jackson | Love
C: Jackson Jr. | Eubanks

PG: Cunningham | Small | Ja. Butler
SG: Au. Thompson | Ja. Butler |
SF: B.Ingram | Bullock | LaRavia
PF: Porter Jr. | GG Jackson | Love
C: Jackson Jr. | Eubanks
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Smoke, turns out you still have your 13th (387), but it wasn't updated yet...probably due to my error in the other deal......This means our deal can go through. Do you want me to post?
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PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins
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C: Dwight Howard
PF: Antawn Jamison / Channing Frye
SF: Hedo Turkoglu / Brandon Rush
SG: Arron Afflalo / Brandon Rush
PG: Chauncey Billups / Toney Douglas
Win-Now: 9/10
Great team to win in the next 2 years. Billups is a great playoff tested performer and you cannot argue with Dwight. Good good shooting around Dwight. Right strategy if you believe in the run and gun system.
Future: 4/10
Dwight is the only solid piece for the future. Everyone else are role players. Chauncey is old, Jamison is old, Turkoglu is old. How good can this team be in the future because 2 of its top three players are declining and free agents soon. But since Dwight is on your team this cannot be less then a 4.
Cap Management: 4/10
Took on Frye's contract, took on Hedo's contract. Hedo will be done in a matter of two year.
Total: 17/30 = 57%
PF: Antawn Jamison / Channing Frye
SF: Hedo Turkoglu / Brandon Rush
SG: Arron Afflalo / Brandon Rush
PG: Chauncey Billups / Toney Douglas
Win-Now: 9/10
Great team to win in the next 2 years. Billups is a great playoff tested performer and you cannot argue with Dwight. Good good shooting around Dwight. Right strategy if you believe in the run and gun system.
Future: 4/10
Dwight is the only solid piece for the future. Everyone else are role players. Chauncey is old, Jamison is old, Turkoglu is old. How good can this team be in the future because 2 of its top three players are declining and free agents soon. But since Dwight is on your team this cannot be less then a 4.
Cap Management: 4/10
Took on Frye's contract, took on Hedo's contract. Hedo will be done in a matter of two year.
Total: 17/30 = 57%
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The Orlando Magic & New Orleans Hornets Agree To Trade
MAGIC TRADE
TRAVIS OUTLAW
13TH ROUND PICK (#387)
HORNETS TRADE
10TH ROUND PICK (#274)
11TH ROUND PICK (#318)
HORNETS AGREE!
MAGIC TRADE
TRAVIS OUTLAW
13TH ROUND PICK (#387)
HORNETS TRADE
10TH ROUND PICK (#274)
11TH ROUND PICK (#318)
HORNETS AGREE!
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PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins
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Re: [Build A Team 4.0] Discussion Thread Part II
mrpoetryNmotion wrote:magnumt wrote:Okay so I got my legit 2 Guard. How's my Team looking now!
See my SIG for my Roster.
I'm looking to package my remaining Picks to Move up. Please PM me any offers, or my Asst. GM Mod Miklo.
Thanks.
--Mags
Your team is looking way better than the last time I reviewed it. With how good Lebron is, VCs inconsistency won't matter as much and I feel as though you have solid role players who know their role. I'd look to upgrade the PG spot. Get some depth behind your center and you should be good money.
Thanks bro for the kind words.

--Mags
BAF 1.0 - Wizards: Year 2
PG: Kemba Walker (32) / Rivers (16) / Felton
SG: Evan Fournier (28) / Evans (20) / Dotson
SF: Gordon Hayward (36)/ Delly (12) / Dudley
PF: Kevin Love (36) / Frye (12) / Ellenson
C: Pau Gasol (32) / Noah (16) / Felicio
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PG: Kemba Walker (32) / Rivers (16) / Felton
SG: Evan Fournier (28) / Evans (20) / Dotson
SF: Gordon Hayward (36)/ Delly (12) / Dudley
PF: Kevin Love (36) / Frye (12) / Ellenson
C: Pau Gasol (32) / Noah (16) / Felicio
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Re: [Build A Team 4.0] Discussion Thread Part II
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newera wrote:The Orlando Magic & New Orleans Hornets Agree To Trade
MAGIC TRADE
TRAVIS OUTLAW
13TH ROUND PICK (#387)
HORNETS TRADE
10TH ROUND PICK (#274)
11TH ROUND PICK (#318)
HORNETS AGREE!
Agree
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Hawks have 3 10th rounders on the block, for either players or other picks. Make your offers before it's too late! Q2N8@aim.com
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Justdatdude wrote:2010 wrote:justdatdude...I HATE YOU for that Rick Adelman pick (among other reasons as well) lol. Damnit! I had him pegged as my coach since round 4 and had no idea anyone else would pick him before round 10. He was PERFECT for my roster. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
I had 3 coaches in mind. Passed on one because I wasn't sure how he'd be in the future and the other was a young guy, but I didn't want to put a team like this on the shoulders of a head coach without much experience. I think Adelman was the perfect fit for me.
What do you think about my team?
PG: Derrick Rose
SG: MIckael Pietrus/Delonte West
SF: Wes Johnson/Richard Jefferson
PF: Zach Randloph
C: Greg Oden/Marcin Gortat
HC: Rick Adelman
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On paper this team looks like a contender with very talented players at each position and a good bench that compliments the starting five. However, questions lie in a few areas. First and foremost, a lot is dependant upon the health of Greg Oden as the starting center. Although Marcin Gortat is a competent backup fully capable of filling in as a starter should Oden continue to prove brittle, Gortat would probably not suffice as a starting center for a championship caliber team. Secondly, the black-hole tendencies of Zach Randolph could prove to disrupt the offensive cohesion and continuity. Wes Johnson can stretch the defense, so I can understand why you went with him over the veteran Richard Jefferson at SF. But is there enough outside shooting? Johnson and Mikael Pietrus can both knock down an outside shot but they do tend to be a bit streaky.
This team shows balance between the halfcourt game centered around Randolph/Oden and the uptempo game centered around Rose, Pietrus, Johnson, and RJ. Also a nice mix of two-way players as well. Seemingly built to win now and in the future and with good cap flexibility, I'd have to say this was a good job of GM'ing. I'm am a bit bitter that you stole Rick Adelman from under my nose (thought for sure you'd go with a Byron Scott, Flip Saunders, George Karl type but it's all good.


2024 Bubble Champs
1: White | Nembhard | Wallace
2: Sharpe | Smart | Clark
3: Thompson | Dort | Rupert
4: Wembanyama | Green | Bol
5: Gobert | Drummond | Mamukelashvili
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Can I get a 10-scale breakdown of my team in all the pertinent categories from some of my fellow GM's. I promise not to get as sensitive as I did before, lol.

2024 Bubble Champs
1: White | Nembhard | Wallace
2: Sharpe | Smart | Clark
3: Thompson | Dort | Rupert
4: Wembanyama | Green | Bol
5: Gobert | Drummond | Mamukelashvili
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PG: Ricky Rubio | Shannon Brown
SG: Kevin Martin
SF: Danny Granger | Boris Diaw
PF: Marreese Speights | Michael Beasley
C: Yao Ming
Win-Now: 6/10
This is a playoff team. What keep this team from winning in the playoffs? Yao's health and depth. Im iffy on all of your bench (especially Brown). I think this team doesnt have enough bigs to make it far enough. Scoring wont be a problem but defense is a huge question mark. No defense anywhere. I doubt this is a contender.
Future: 8/10
I think theres plenty of good components to this team. Center prospects hold this team back.
Cap Management: 7/10
One bad contract in Diaw, otherwise good cap.
Total: 21/30 = 70%
SG: Kevin Martin
SF: Danny Granger | Boris Diaw
PF: Marreese Speights | Michael Beasley
C: Yao Ming
Win-Now: 6/10
This is a playoff team. What keep this team from winning in the playoffs? Yao's health and depth. Im iffy on all of your bench (especially Brown). I think this team doesnt have enough bigs to make it far enough. Scoring wont be a problem but defense is a huge question mark. No defense anywhere. I doubt this is a contender.
Future: 8/10
I think theres plenty of good components to this team. Center prospects hold this team back.
Cap Management: 7/10
One bad contract in Diaw, otherwise good cap.
Total: 21/30 = 70%
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[quote="I am Ra"][/quote]
Thoughts on the Hawks......
Thoughts on the Hawks......

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Hornets looking to move up somehow to get our Coach! We have three 12th rounders. We're willing to deal two of the three.
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PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins
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Question....
If someone picks my coach, can I trade for him or her?
(seriously)
If someone picks my coach, can I trade for him or her?

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PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins
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newera wrote:Question....
If someone picks my coach, can I trade for him or her?(seriously)
Don't see why not. Would be like trading any other drafted player/pick. So sure.
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moocow007 wrote:newera wrote:Question....
If someone picks my coach, can I trade for him or her?(seriously)
Don't see why not. Would be like trading any other drafted player/pick. So sure.
Great! Thanks.
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PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins
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N82WILL wrote:Thoughts on the Hawks......
PG: Steve Blake / Nate Robinson
SG: Dwayne Wade
SF: Luol Deng / Quentin Richardson
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Spencer Hawes
Win Now: 9/10
What holds this team from being perfect? The quality of big men available this late. This is definitely a contender and has some serious pieces. Wade has a good amount of shooters around him with Blake, Hawes, Nate and QRich. I love the scoring and fit. I dont like soft big men like Hawes but Dengs rebounding helps seriously with this. Everyone fits. Solid gameplan on the team. Clear direction which always helps. Bench isnt done but two good pieces there.
Future: 6/10
When I think of future, I think of 5 year plan. This team in five year should still have Wade plus some of it major pieces hitting 30s. Thats young but with the loss of Timmy and some players it hurts.
Cap: 9/10
No bad contracts. Some a little overpaid but worth it.
24/30 = 80%
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I am Ra? How are you sir?
May I have the privilege of hearing what you have to say of our team?
Thanks
May I have the privilege of hearing what you have to say of our team?

Thanks
BAF- 2020 Champs | 2021 2k Champs

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
PF- Rui Hachimura
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Norman Powell, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Vando, Z. Collins