John Wall Vs.

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Re: John Wall Vs. 

Post#61 » by Legendary 33 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:54 pm

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Based on what we know so far, Wall is equally as athletic as Rose, he's a bit longer, and he's had just as much success in his freshman year in college. Furthermore, Wall had more hype coming into the pros than Rose (for whatever that's worth) and is known as being more of a pure point.


But you conveniently left out that Rose is much stronger. Considering their respective styles of play, 1 inch in length isn't a bigger attribute to have than the kind of strength Rose has. After Deron, Baron Davis & Billups, I can't think of a stronger PG than Rose. Factor in that he's arguably the fastest (or one of) PG's, and I can conclude he's more athletic than Wall or Evans. In terms of speed, IMO, Wall is equally quick in the open floor, but I think Rose has more body control than Wall. Rose can hang and glide in the air, contort his body acrobatically, and absorb contact that Wall cant (because Rose is stronger). However, Wall is better at drawing fouls than Rose.

That late layup that Rose made over Gasol vs. Spain is something I'm not sure Wall would be able to convert. That takes a ridiculous amount of body control and strength, challenging a guy 70-80 pounds heavier in the air and finishing. Everything I've seen from Wall at Kentucky and summer league is that he's far too erratic & out of control when he goes to the rim. He needs to fix this to avoid being a turnover machine in the NBA.

I don't see how anybody can say that Wall doesn't have the potential to be the best PG in the league. That doesn't mean he will be the best, but he certainly has the potential to be the best. There's simply no way to refute that given the facts we have right now. It's no disrespect to Rose, Paul or anybody else in the league.


Sure, I agree with that. Wall does have the potential to be the best PG in the league. Just like Rose has that potential. Just like Evans has that potential. Just like Griffin has that potential to be the best PF someday. The potential is definitely there for these guys. However, as of right now, Wall is a nobody to me until he plays an NBA game and proves something. You'd figure with the hype he's received, he's some once in a lifetime PG. However, he's very comparable to Rose was as a prospect, difference being Rose didn't get half the hype. Secretly, that's probably why a lot of Bulls fans are pretty sour.
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Re: John Wall Vs. 

Post#62 » by Winsome Gerbil » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:50 pm

I can see it, and have been able to see it since he was in high school. But that does not mean it WILL happen. Amongst other things he has to become vastly better in the halfcourt, steady that jumper, cut down on turnovers etc. He's a major talent and has a chance, but the league is just stuffed with great young PGs right now and I'm going to have to see him play and show major strides before I start annointing him better than Deron, CP3, Rose, Evans, Curry etc.
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Re: John Wall Vs. 

Post#63 » by Joel Embust » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:36 pm

TAI8 wrote:No. He sucks. I'm going to enjoy watching him fail.



He'll still have more cash, girls, friends, fame, airtime and fun than some RealGM scrub poster called TAI8.


Enjoy watching him fail, Wall will enjoy the life every man wants to lead.
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Re: John Wall Vs. 

Post#64 » by TAI8 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:49 pm

Eleqtrique wrote:
TAI8 wrote:No. He sucks. I'm going to enjoy watching him fail.



He'll still have more cash, girls, friends, fame, airtime and fun than some RealGM scrub poster called TAI8.


Enjoy watching him fail, Wall will enjoy the life every man wants to lead.


Haha u mad?
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Re: John Wall Vs. 

Post#65 » by HumphreyBogart » Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:36 am

If Wall is such a phenomenal player, can someone explain to me why his high school team was so average?

I think Wall will succeed by the way.
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Re: John Wall Vs. 

Post#66 » by ziplockfresh » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:45 am

TAI8 wrote:No. He sucks. I'm going to enjoy watching him fail.

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Re: John Wall Vs. 

Post#67 » by juror1 » Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:06 am

KushIsMyCologne wrote:
nate33 wrote:It's mind-boggling to me that so many Chicago fans get their panties in a twist whenever someone suggests that Wall could be better than Rose.

Based on what we know so far, Wall is equally as athletic as Rose, he's a bit longer, and he's had just as much success in his freshman year in college. Furthermore, Wall had more hype coming into the pros than Rose (for whatever that's worth) and is known as being more of a pure point.

I don't see how anybody can say that Wall doesn't have the potential to be the best PG in the league. That doesn't mean he will be the best, but he certainly has the potential to be the best. There's simply no way to refute that given the facts we have right now. It's no disrespect to Rose, Paul or anybody else in the league.



I don't see Bulls fans getting upset until certain retards began trying to make 'serious' arguments as to why Wall IS (meaning already) better or will be by the end of this season.


Who made that argument? Do you want to provide us with a source/some proof of this.

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