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I think people are overestimating what DD & Weems will do

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Re: I think people are overestimating what DD & Weems will do 

Post#21 » by miruss2001 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:00 pm

chrisanna wrote:DeRozan: 30 mpg, 17 ppg

Weems: 27 mpg, 12.5 ppg



DeRozan: 30 ppg, 17 mpg

Weems: 27 ppg 12.5 mpg
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Re: I think people are overestimating what DD & Weems will do 

Post#22 » by JWiLL02 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:47 pm

At this point Demar's handles have become underrated, it's ridiculous the hyperbole being attached to them.

"Like a 9th grader who's been playing for 3 years"

Honestly, if you want to be taken seriously try coming up with a valid argument and some relevant examples.

He may not have the natural handle of a Tyreke Evans or Kobe, but if you look at VC's early career he had a "shaky" handle as well. He's still young, don't buy that "you can't improve your handles" talk, it's completely false. He'll never have that "ball on a string" handle, much of that is natural, but it's foolish to believe it won't improve.

My handle at 23 is far more advanced than it was at 20 or 21, and I was playing more consistently at that point. If we're lucky, DeMar will reach a point where he just "gets it". It happens all the time with NBA players, like they finally understand how to harness their abilities, which helps them get from point A to B effectively.

Time will tell, but I think he has it in him.
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Re: I think people are overestimating what DD & Weems will do 

Post#23 » by pspot » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:52 pm

who cares? I'd rather be optimistic
not like there has been much to be excited about being a raps fan for the past year or so
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Re: I think people are overestimating what DD & Weems will do 

Post#24 » by trick » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:54 pm

If these two combined average 30 ppg, 10 rpg and 5 apg I would call their season a success.
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Re: I think people are overestimating what DD & Weems will do 

Post#25 » by CreaM » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:02 pm

LMAO @ all the FAIL in this thread.
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Re: I think people are overestimating what DD & Weems will do 

Post#26 » by Canucklehead » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:12 pm

I don't believe anyone thinks they're going to be the next VC/Tmac combo. When people post such things I automatically view it as they're trying to be funny. #2 there games are hardly ball dominant no matter what level there at which is how I viewed hay day VC and TMac
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Post#27 » by Jose_Matador » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:16 pm

Raptors_Dynasty wrote:
Kayjay wrote:I think only one of Derozan or Weems will break double digits in PPG.


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he didn't die, he just got promoted to the WNBA.
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Post#28 » by Ripp » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:39 pm

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Re: I think people are overestimating what DD & Weems will do 

Post#29 » by John Stockton » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:40 pm

Its up to him to do good or not. If he puts the work in, attacks the basket, gets to the line then I think DD could easily average over 15 a game.

Weems should work on getting used to the 6th man role and providing some needed scoring off the bench.
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Post#30 » by FirstInkTDot » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:47 pm

I thank we shuld bellive dey ar gonna be freat dis seson
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Re: I think people are overestimating what DD & Weems will do 

Post#31 » by uniballer » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:49 pm

To the OP I dont think many posters are saying Demar and Weems are going to be the next comming of VC and TMac.. However where the hope lies is that they will atleast make this team exciting next year. But, I do think Demar is going to be better then you are pegging him out to be. I really expect Demar to step up this season and show he can be a solid piece on a WINNING team, whenever that time comes.
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Re: I think people are overestimating what DD & Weems will do 

Post#32 » by DonYon » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:50 pm

The people that actually thank these two are going to be the next jordan & pippen and are going to lead this team to a championship are either high or are just hitting puberty. I'll be glad if these two end up even barely squeaking us into the playoffs.
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Re: I think people are overestimating what DD & Weems will do 

Post#33 » by Raptors_Dynasty » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:23 pm

BlackMaple wrote:
Raptors_Dynasty wrote:
Kayjay wrote:I think only one of Derozan or Weems will break double digits in PPG.


Did I miss Bargnani's funeral?


Fail.


Reading comprehension fail... That's what happens when you get 3 hours of sleep only :) .
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Post#34 » by Laowai » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:36 pm

The likelyhood of both becoming NBA starters isn't that high but likely one will make that mark if both do wonderful. The player I'm more interested in is how Amir thrives as a PF. I would love all the so call experts to eat there words.
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Post#35 » by andreafan » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:41 pm

The op has a fair point people are getting carried away with demar and sonny and naturally they will have a letdown this season. They overestimate those two like they underestimate andrea . :-?
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Post#36 » by Rude Boy 1 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:47 pm

andreafan wrote:The op has a fair point people are getting carried away with demar and sonny and naturally they will have a letdown this season. They overestimate those two like they underestimate andrea . :-?

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Post#37 » by Undefeated » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:53 pm

JWiLL02 wrote:At this point Demar's handles have become underrated, it's ridiculous the hyperbole being attached to them.

"Like a 9th grader who's been playing for 3 years"

Honestly, if you want to be taken seriously try coming up with a valid argument and some relevant examples.

He may not have the natural handle of a Tyreke Evans or Kobe, but if you look at VC's early career he had a "shaky" handle as well. He's still young, don't buy that "you can't improve your handles" talk, it's completely false. He'll never have that "ball on a string" handle, much of that is natural, but it's foolish to believe it won't improve.

My handle at 23 is far more advanced than it was at 20 or 21, and I was playing more consistently at that point. If we're lucky, DeMar will reach a point where he just "gets it". It happens all the time with NBA players, like they finally understand how to harness their abilities, which helps them get from point A to B effectively.

Time will tell, but I think he has it in him.


Good post. I too do believe that DeMar's ball handlings skills are becoming underrated.

I suggest the people who are still calling DeMar as not being able to attack off the dribble, watch DeMar's game in Summer League play. That's the one skill DeMar has shown major improvements. Two things I noticed with DeMar is that, he's able to turn the corner on a pick-n'-roll play right AND left. Last summer and season, DeMar would be very, very hesitant to turn the corner and would settle for the jumpshots. But that's changed.

In addition, DeMar is able to change speed/direction on the fly and added a hesitation dribble which is why DeMar is ALWAYS able to force his opponent to leave their ground, go up and draw the foul as much as he did in Summer League. Granted, the competition/talent DeMar was going up against are inferior to him and most NBA players in the regular season, regardless, it's still good to see DeMar showing signs of improvements with his dribble penetration game within that small time span from late April to early July.

Most people keep expecting DeMar to pull of jaw dropping crossovers, and shake and bake moves, but that's not going to happen. DeMar is going to develop a ball handling skill that's sufficient enough for him to get inside to draw contact giving him the chance to score at the free-throw line or finishing. I don't know why people keep saying DeMar has weak handles, when how many times has DeMar turned the ball over? Not many times. DeMar handles the ball fundamentally which is good enough. What DeMar needs to do is take advantage of his size at the SG position.
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Re: I think people are overestimating what DD & Weems will do 

Post#38 » by VC-INJURY » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:54 pm

JWiLL02 wrote:At this point Demar's handles have become underrated, it's ridiculous the hyperbole being attached to them.

"Like a 9th grader who's been playing for 3 years"

Honestly, if you want to be taken seriously try coming up with a valid argument and some relevant examples.

He may not have the natural handle of a Tyreke Evans or Kobe, but if you look at VC's early career he had a "shaky" handle as well. He's still young, don't buy that "you can't improve your handles" talk, it's completely false. He'll never have that "ball on a string" handle, much of that is natural, but it's foolish to believe it won't improve.

My handle at 23 is far more advanced than it was at 20 or 21, and I was playing more consistently at that point. If we're lucky, DeMar will reach a point where he just "gets it". It happens all the time with NBA players, like they finally understand how to harness their abilities, which helps them get from point A to B effectively.

Time will tell, but I think he has it in him.


If you're banking on Demar "just getting it" I think you might end up being disappointed. Heck, fans are still waiting for Bargnani to "just get it". The dude is 20 years old now and should've been able to handle the ball well 6 years ago. At best he'll be a poor man's Jason Richardson, without the shooting touch.
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Post#39 » by Ripp » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:54 pm

andreafan wrote:The op has a fair point people are getting carried away with demar and sonny and naturally they will have a letdown this season. They overestimate those two like they underestimate andrea . :-?

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