Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview)

Moderators: bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285, Clav, Domejandro, ken6199, bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid, cupcakesnake

User avatar
AQuintus
RealGM
Posts: 10,425
And1: 2,458
Joined: Jan 10, 2008
Location: But let me speak for the weak, I mean the rookies
   

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1141 » by AQuintus » Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:46 pm

linged wrote:Vin, I don't agree with your reasoning.

Spain is the world champion, yes, but the olympic tournament is comparable, and seeing that the USA won that tournament, they are right now on top of the ladder.


This is really 100% irrelevant, though, because none of the US players who won the gold at the Olympics are currently playing in this tournament.
Image
User avatar
Vin20
Senior
Posts: 508
And1: 0
Joined: May 25, 2010

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1142 » by Vin20 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:50 pm

linged wrote:Vin, I don't agree with your reasoning.

Spain is the world champion, yes, but the olympic tournament is comparable, and seeing that the USA won that tournament, they are right now on top of the ladder.

That the USA has a whole different team is of course another question, but winning the olympic basketball tournament definitely makes you the number one team, even if Spain is the reigning world champion. If Spain wins the world championships again, they are back on top.


Thanks for being so kind to me. (Actually, you're the first who's nice to me about this topic... :roll: )

Yes, I think the Olympic may be comparable to the World Champs. Then, we could say that your Redeem Team is better than our Spanish Team (we don't have any nickname :lol: ). But now, you have a completely different team, and we don't have neither Pau Gasol nor Jose Calderon. I wish you luck and let's see who wins this year :wink:
When I finish a game, they ask me "how did it go? how many points did you score?", when the real question should be "what have you done today to help your team win?". - Ricky Rubio.
linged
Sophomore
Posts: 107
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 29, 2010

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1143 » by linged » Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:59 pm

It is not my team as I am not american nor supporting them. I'm supporting Spain and Germany actually.
No need to thank me for not writing insults or writing in a moderate tone, that is just normal for anyone who is not a jerk or a dumb kid.
suckfish
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 18,534
And1: 1,273
Joined: Jun 12, 2007

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1144 » by suckfish » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:23 pm

Way to send the thread downhill fellas.
Franstyle
Freshman
Posts: 50
And1: 0
Joined: Oct 28, 2008

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1145 » by Franstyle » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:41 pm

This is Juan Carlos "La Bomba" Navarro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_gVNYtR ... re=related
Amazing!!!!
Sorry for my English ;)
User avatar
DFolks
Veteran
Posts: 2,933
And1: 208
Joined: Apr 25, 2007
Location: CHICAGO, illinois

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1146 » by DFolks » Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:17 pm

Derrick Rose and the way he runs the team as a pure PG that can light it up scoring when a bucket or two is needed has been a huge bright spot for Team USA these first two games
The Skyhook
RealGM
Posts: 11,432
And1: 925
Joined: Sep 16, 2008
 

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1147 » by The Skyhook » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:42 pm

AQuintus wrote:
suckfish wrote:While he can beat his man and get into the paint he doesn't really finish around the basket. He almost always dishes or kicks. And that's on the Euro level, obviously in the NBA it's even tougher to finish in the paint. Teams will recognise this and it will hinder him somewhat. He is such a great passer that he will still find guys but there are going to be times where the help stays home and Rubio will be forced to finish amongst the trees.


He really needs to get Navarro to teach him his floater. With the way Rubio gets into the lane, he could get that shot whenever he wants.

If he had a Navarro/D. Rose type floater he would have the potential to collapse defenses at will.
CerambyX
Sophomore
Posts: 139
And1: 42
Joined: Jun 25, 2009
Location: LV

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1148 » by CerambyX » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:26 am

After watching these games, I have a good feeling about how Rubio's game will translate to NBA. Some here already have said that assists are counted a bit different in FIBA game (not to mention that they are playing 40 mins instead 48), so statistically I wouldn't be surprised if he averaged around 10 or more dimes per game (on ~30-35+ min playing time) - his court vision is really special. And considering that in NBA he would be surrounded with more athletic guys than in Europe, which should equal to more alley-oops + add some shooters so he can kick-out for open looks and there you have it - perfect point guard.
I don't think he will ever be a 20pt guy or a defensive stopper - and this is not what you should expect from him. Rubio is what he is - at best, a skinnier version of Jason Kidd with less defense (it depends how he will progress, prevent injuries etc.) - which still would be very awesome. Of course he could end up being too soft (as most of Spanish players - no offense) and end up as Tinsley... It's all up to him - let's wait an see :)

And as for other games from today - Puerto Rico really got robbed there :evil: Was really impressed with JP Ramos - was forgotten about him and he had some nice moves there in the post. Why didn't he stay longer in NBA? Too slow? Attitude problems? Injuries? Just not that good? Or maybe this game was just a fluke :lol:
kyphi
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 79,640
And1: 17,463
Joined: Jul 17, 2004
Location: america's bellybutton
Contact:

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1149 » by kyphi » Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:42 am

no offense, but Rubio would be crazy to come to the nba as a rookie when he already has superstar status in Europe, or so I've been led to believe. Boy has talent, tho.
The Skyhook
RealGM
Posts: 11,432
And1: 925
Joined: Sep 16, 2008
 

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1150 » by The Skyhook » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:06 am

kyphi wrote:no offense, but Rubio would be crazy to come to the nba as a rookie when he already has superstar status in Europe, or so I've been led to believe. Boy has talent, tho.

It would suck for the T'Wolves if he Fran Vazquezed them.
Leolovinliberal
Banned User
Posts: 6,059
And1: 30
Joined: Feb 26, 2005

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1151 » by Leolovinliberal » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:11 am

CerambyX wrote:After watching these games, I have a good feeling about how Rubio's game will translate to NBA. Some here already have said that assists are counted a bit different in FIBA game (not to mention that they are playing 40 mins instead 48), so statistically I wouldn't be surprised if he averaged around 10 or more dimes per game (on ~30-35+ min playing time) - his court vision is really special. And considering that in NBA he would be surrounded with more athletic guys than in Europe, which should equal to more alley-oops + add some shooters so he can kick-out for open looks and there you have it - perfect point guard.
I don't think he will ever be a 20pt guy or a defensive stopper - and this is not what you should expect from him. Rubio is what he is - at best, a skinnier version of Jason Kidd with less defense (it depends how he will progress, prevent injuries etc.) - which still would be very awesome. Of course he could end up being too soft (as most of Spanish players - no offense) and end up as Tinsley... It's all up to him - let's wait an see :)

And as for other games from today - Puerto Rico really got robbed there :evil: Was really impressed with JP Ramos - was forgotten about him and he had some nice moves there in the post. Why didn't he stay longer in NBA? Too slow? Attitude problems? Injuries? Just not that good? Or maybe this game was just a fluke :lol:


It's actually PJ Ramos (peter John), but it's not your fault that British announcer kept calling him JP the entire game and I was getting pissed off; lol. Not to mention he kept calling Angel Vassalo, Angle; Angle, really, does he really think someones name is a geometric term? Not to mention he had two correct choices: Angel (like guardian angel) or Ahn-hell (the Spanish pronunciation) yet he chose to call him Angle Vassalo the entire game. Plus he had the annoying British/Long Island/Boston/Australia habit of putting "r's" after peoples names that end in "A", one more JJ Barrear and I was gonna go crazy. But back to your original point, Ramos was amazing; soft hands, ton of great post up moves, natural scorer. Problem is, he'd lose a foot race to a tree sloth.
georgejungle3
Banned User
Posts: 98
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 25, 2010

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1152 » by georgejungle3 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:01 am

oh man, we gonna get destroyed by the US today :(

I hope we don't lose by more than 35 points
Nico Kolya
Ballboy
Posts: 34
And1: 0
Joined: Jul 27, 2010

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1153 » by Nico Kolya » Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:50 am

Ortho Stice wrote:I had to stop watching the Spain - New Zealand game because of the commentator's complete ignorance of the Spanish language. Someone whose only knowledge of Spanish is from Taco Bell commercials (so pretty much any American who's ever watched TV) could pronounce Fran Vazquez correctly.



i feel you. "Fran Vazqwez", "Serjio Jool", "Victor Cláver"

Llull is forgivable I suppose. I think his name is Catalan so maybe the guy is not that far off. But still, I think i put the TV on mute at times.
Whateva
Pro Prospect
Posts: 933
And1: 92
Joined: Jun 09, 2006
Location: Spain

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1154 » by Whateva » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:36 am

lol, we don't have Taco Bells in Spain nor Europe. Btw that's mexican food, not spanish food
User avatar
BelgianMagic
Head Coach
Posts: 6,888
And1: 130
Joined: Feb 02, 2010
       

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1155 » by BelgianMagic » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:08 am

To come back to the USA-Spain conversation, I really don't understand why people call this a "bad" team USA because James, Kobe, DWade & Dwight arent here .. Durant & Rose would prolly start for the "good" Team USA if they had been here, and talent-wise they are still MILES better than any team in this tournament .. And they happen to have one of the best coaches in the world ..

Spain would be a lot better if they'd go to Gasol more. That guy is so good, so efficient, why not give him the ball more ..
re49gb_2gho32fp
Banned User
Posts: 3,196
And1: 14
Joined: Jun 02, 2010

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1156 » by re49gb_2gho32fp » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:28 am

BelgianMagic wrote:To come back to the USA-Spain conversation, I really don't understand why people call this a "bad" team USA because James, Kobe, DWade & Dwight arent here .. Durant & Rose would prolly start for the "good" Team USA if they had been here, and talent-wise they are still MILES better than any team in this tournament .. And they happen to have one of the best coaches in the world ..

.


please.
tundraknight
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,396
And1: 4,064
Joined: Sep 29, 2008

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1157 » by tundraknight » Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:44 pm

I never realized how big of a scrub Tyson Chandler is. Dude doesn't know how to play defense without fouling. And he has no offensive game. He just converts off of alley-oop dunks, thats about it. I would've rather had JaVale McGee make the team. He's basically a rich-mans Tyson Chandler.
BoomFizzle
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,455
And1: 157
Joined: Jun 29, 2009
Location: Scotland

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1158 » by BoomFizzle » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:02 pm

Dragic sucks, getting schooled by Ukic trying to do too much.
obradorista
Freshman
Posts: 73
And1: 4
Joined: Aug 24, 2009

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1159 » by obradorista » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:06 pm

What a game this Croatia - Slovenia. Intense defense and struggle all over the court in an amazing 3- point shooting performance by both teams. SLO 3 up with 5:10 to go.
User avatar
Rasho Brezec
RealGM
Posts: 61,937
And1: 18,573
Joined: Mar 12, 2008
Contact:
   

Re: Official FIBA World Championship Thread (and long preview) 

Post#1160 » by Rasho Brezec » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:16 pm

Tomic got shut down by Brezident today. Not his best performance to say the least.
Image

Return to The General Board