Jennings on the down low? Not anymore

[Newz]

I don't see how making a video like this could even slightly lead someone to believe he has off court issues though. Now if he made a fake video with some friends wearing ski masks pretending to rob someone or something like that, then I would agree it was a bad idea.

This is just someone having some fun.

I'm not saying he has that label because of the video.

He has had a reputation as a guy who is immature and has off the court issues ever since he went over to Europe to play. Once again, I DO NOT agree that he has off of the court issues. I think he's just a young guy having some fun and that he has a goofy sense of humor.

What I am saying is a lot of people have a different opinion of him and this clearly isn't going to help make it any better. I don't even know how that is debatable... Just go read the public opinion of him on the general board.

[crkone]

I don't see how making a video like this could even slightly lead someone to believe he has off court issues though. Now if he made a fake video with some friends wearing ski masks pretending to rob someone or something like that, then I would agree it was a bad idea.

This is just someone having some fun.

I'm not saying he has that label because of the video.

He has had a reputation as a guy who is immature and has off the court issues ever since he went over to Europe to play. Once again, I DO NOT agree that he has off of the court issues. I think he's just a young guy having some fun and that he has a goofy sense of humor.

What I am saying is a lot of people have a different opinion of him and this clearly isn't going to help make it any better. I don't even know how that is debatable... Just go read the public opinion of him on the general board.

Why does it matter what the general board or anyone thinks of him? He hasn't been a driver in a drive-by or speed on a crowded freeway at 130mph. He doesn't throw the organization under the bus. He's a great teammate. He's f-ing around and those that don't see that shouldn't have their opinion taken seriously.

[chuckleslove]

I guess I'm just of the opinion and would feel the same if I were in his shoes of who gives a damn what people say about this video or any of that. If people want to mislabel him so be it. Much like me as a person I don't give a damn what other people think either

[Newz]

I guess I'm just of the opinion and would feel the same if I were in his shoes of who gives a damn what people say about this video or any of that. If people want to mislabel him so be it. Much like me as a person I don't give a damn what other people think either

It seems like people are saying this:

1. Because he is on the Bucks.
2. Because they think what I am saying is an attack on him somehow.

If you really believe this, why ever post your opinions on anyone? They don't matter, right?

Public opinion of Iverson, Marbury, etc. have hurt them and put them in worse situations. Brandon Jennings is obviously not at that level of madness or anywhere close to it. I'm just saying that public opinion does matter and right now, outside of Milwaukee, the opinion of him is not great.

He had troubles with his SAT, he couldn't get into college, he was different in going overseas, he talked a lot of trash during the draft process, he posts some goofy stuff on Twitter, etc.

Like I said, I think he's just fine. I'm glad he's on our team and he's my favorite NBA player now. I'm just saying that right now he doesn't have a very good image to a majority of basketball fans. If I were him (and I think most people would agree) they would prefer to be looked at as a guy like Kevin Durant rather than a guy like Stephon Marbury.

[EastSideBucksFan]

I guess I'm just of the opinion and would feel the same if I were in his shoes of who gives a damn what people say about this video or any of that. If people want to mislabel him so be it. Much like me as a person I don't give a damn what other people think either

That type of thinking got Marbury blackballed from the NBA

Not saying Jennings will or anything, but he should care more about his public image than some stupid bet. Every NBA player should care about their public image, especially when they have control over what is put on the internet. If he was going to man up on a bet like this, should've kept the results private and just shown his friends.

[LUKE23]

Only five weeks til the first preseason game.

[chuckleslove]

I disagree that he is looked at negatively by the majority of basketball fans. I'd like to see why you think that. I see a small handful of people on realgm who bash the guy, but he has endorsement deals, when ESPN talks about him its typically in a positive manner and he just got a lot of hype over the Elite 24 thing last week.

I just disagree that he has a negative image other than a small handful of haters who are going to hate no matter what he does.

Outside of realgm this video isn't even a story.

From what I've seen he has a pretty positive image with the media, in particular ESPN.

[crkone]

Well Iverson did get charged with hitting a woman in the head with a chair and sentenced to 15 years in prison (until it all disappeared) and had numerous spats with Larry Brown. Marbury threatened to blackmail Isiah Thomas for taking him out of the lineup and had public feuds with him. Jennings skipped college to go to Europe, talked trash, and danced ghey.

[Newz]

I disagree that he is looked at negatively by the majority of basketball fans. I'd like to see why you think that. I see a small handful of people on realgm who bash the guy, but he has endorsement deals, when ESPN talks about him its typically in a positive manner and he just got a lot of hype over the Elite 24 thing last week.

I just disagree that he has a negative image other than a small handful of haters who are going to hate no matter what he does.

Outside of realgm this video isn't even a story.

From what I've seen he has a pretty positive image with the media, in particular ESPN.

Why would you possibly turn to ESPN in order to try and prove how the nation views a player? LeBron James has a positive image on ESPN, what percentage of basketball fans do you think believe he is a good guy now?

I listed reasons for why people may think he has off of the court issues. If you need proof go read the scouting reports on the guy... His personality and maturity were big issues before he was even in the league.

I'm honestly surprised this is even a debate to be honest.

[LUKE23]

I view the media perception of Jennings to be overwhelmingly positive. I think the NBA fanbase perception is probably more up in the air. Some really do dislike the guy based on his inefficiency as a player and off court stuff, although I wouldn't necessarily call those types of fans the majority. But I think in terms of nationwide media, his image is pretty high.

[Newz]

I view the media perception of Jennings to be overwhelmingly positive. I think the fanbase perception is probably more up in the air. Some really do dislike the guy based on his inefficiency as a player and off court stuff. But I think in terms of nationwide media, his image is pretty high.

This post I agree with.

[emunney]

I guess I'm just of the opinion and would feel the same if I were in his shoes of who gives a damn what people say about this video or any of that. If people want to mislabel him so be it. Much like me as a person I don't give a damn what other people think either

It seems like people are saying this:

1. Because he is on the Bucks.
2. Because they think what I am saying is an attack on him somehow.

If you really believe this, why ever post your opinions on anyone? They don't matter, right?

Public opinion of Iverson, Marbury, etc. have hurt them and put them in worse situations. Brandon Jennings is obviously not at that level of madness or anywhere close to it. I'm just saying that public opinion does matter and right now, outside of Milwaukee, the opinion of him is not great.

He had troubles with his SAT, he couldn't get into college, he was different in going overseas, he talked a lot of trash during the draft process, he posts some goofy stuff on Twitter, etc.

Like I said, I think he's just fine. I'm glad he's on our team and he's my favorite NBA player now. I'm just saying that right now he doesn't have a very good image to a majority of basketball fans. If I were him (and I think most people would agree) they would prefer to be looked at as a guy like Kevin Durant rather than a guy like Stephon Marbury.

This is a pretty good summation of why he's not a Nike guy. His personality has a different kind of appeal, and he is either unwilling or unable to 'tone it down' enough to be that clean cut global brand type guy the big companies target.

That said, sustained on court success makes all of that go away. He is a likable guy. He's not even eccentric from a general population perspective. He's only eccentric for the sports world, which demands the straight-laced behavior and examines it under a microscope.

[chuckleslove]

I view the media perception of Jennings to be overwhelmingly positive. I think the fanbase perception is probably more up in the air. Some really do dislike the guy based on his inefficiency as a player and off court stuff. But I think in terms of nationwide media, his image is pretty high.

This post I agree with.

Which is funny because you just disagreed with me where I was saying the exact same thing, the difference is that I specifically mentioned ESPN so you decided to rip against that part. I agree that ESPN is biased and hardly a media source nowadays, the fact remains that they are by far the biggest source of national sports information so your casual fan(the majority) will look there for information.

ESPN also has ripped some on Lebron for The Decision and all of that, though not nearly as much as he deserved and they have tried to spin it and keep him in a positive light to help their bottom line.

[Newz]

Which is funny because you just disagreed with me where I was saying the exact same thing, the difference is that I specifically mentioned ESPN so you decided to rip against that part. I agree that ESPN is biased and hardly a media source nowadays, the fact remains that they are by far the biggest source of national sports information so your casual fan(the majority) will look there for information.

ESPN also has ripped some on Lebron for The Decision and all of that, though not nearly as much as he deserved and they have tried to spin it and keep him in a positive light to help their bottom line.

What is funny is that you brought up ESPN or the media in general when we weren't even discussing the media at all.

Like Luke's posts says, the media may like him... But there are still a lot of fans who do not.

Luke's post, unlike yours, also didn't say "There are only a handful of haters who will hate no matter what.". He said that the public opinion of him is up in the air and then gave reasons as to why certain people dislike the guy... And it is a lot more than 'just a handful'.

[crkone]

Looks like Don Walker reads us too:

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/101799208.html

As the story goes, Milwaukee Bucks guard Brandon Jennings lost some kind of bet. As a result, Jennings does his best Lady Gaga in a YouTube video. And so with Ms. Gaga coming to the Bradley Center on Thursday, here it is:

[chuckleslove]

There is a group of hardcore fans, people who post on realgm on a daily basis that don't like him. The vast majority of fans only know and see what they get from ESPN and the media, especially if they aren't a Bucks fan because we all know how many national games we get. If you are a casual NBA fan of any team outside of Milwaukee all you will see about Jennings is highlights on ESPN so it is very much relevant to how the majority view him. You really think that it isn't and that a majority of fans hate on Jennings? I'd even be willing to be a lot of the hardcore fans like his game and potential. Just because there is a group of people who like to hate on him and be vocal about it around here and on the general board doesn't mean anything.

The people who like his game but are fans of other teams have no reason to stick their noses in a post and stand up for the guy. I just think you are greatly overrating how many people dislike Jennings.

[chuckleslove]

I don't think its more than a handful of haters in the grand scheme of the entire universe of NBA/basketball fans. I think you are greatly blowing it out of proportion how many people dislike him. But ultimately neither one of us can prove that so we will have to leave it at that.

[Newz]

There is a group of hardcore fans, people who post on realgm on a daily basis that don't like him. The vast majority of fans only know and see what they get from ESPN and the media, especially if they aren't a Bucks fan because we all know how many national games we get. If you are a casual NBA fan of any team outside of Milwaukee all you will see about Jennings is highlights on ESPN so it is very much relevant to how the majority view him. You really think that it isn't and that a majority of fans hate on Jennings? I'd even be willing to be a lot of the hardcore fans like his game and potential. Just because there is a group of people who like to hate on him and be vocal about it around here and on the general board doesn't mean anything.

The people who like his game but are fans of other teams have no reason to stick their noses in a post and stand up for the guy. I just think you are greatly overrating how many people dislike Jennings.

A quote I saw several times on this message board last year was "I love Jennings because he is on our team, but I can see how people would hate him if they followed another team.". I'm not going to lie, if he played for a non-Milwaukee team I would probably think he is an immature kid who didn't have much game because he shoots a lot at a terrible percentage.

When people watch Jennings or see him... They see a guy with colored and/or crazy looking hair. A guy who dances after making big shots. A guy who trash talks veterans like Kevin Garnett after beating the Celtics in a regular season game. Then if they see things like this or read his twitter, they get a big dose of him doing some rather goofy or immature things.

Yes, I would say that a lot of fans dislike him. Look at how many people disliked LeBron James and the Cavs before the whole 'Decision' incident just because they were dancing on the sidelines.

[crkone]

There is a group of hardcore fans, people who post on realgm on a daily basis that don't like him. The vast majority of fans only know and see what they get from ESPN and the media, especially if they aren't a Bucks fan because we all know how many national games we get. If you are a casual NBA fan of any team outside of Milwaukee all you will see about Jennings is highlights on ESPN so it is very much relevant to how the majority view him. You really think that it isn't and that a majority of fans hate on Jennings? I'd even be willing to be a lot of the hardcore fans like his game and potential. Just because there is a group of people who like to hate on him and be vocal about it around here and on the general board doesn't mean anything.

The people who like his game but are fans of other teams have no reason to stick their noses in a post and stand up for the guy. I just think you are greatly overrating how many people dislike Jennings.

A quote I saw several times on this message board last year was "I love Jennings because he is on our team, but I can see how people would hate him if they followed another team.". I'm not going to lie, if he played for a non-Milwaukee team I would probably think he is an immature kid who didn't have much game because he shoots a lot at a terrible percentage.

When people watch Jennings or see him... They see a guy with colored and/or crazy looking hair. A guy who dances after making big shots. A guy who trash talks veterans like Kevin Garnett after beating the Celtics in a regular season game. Then if they see things like this or read his twitter, they get a big dose of him doing some rather goofy or immature things.

Yes, I would say that a lot of fans dislike him. Look at how many people disliked LeBron James and the Cavs before the whole 'Decision' incident just because they were dancing on the sidelines.

You are talking about people posting on a basketball forum. The majority of people who watch the NBA don't post on forums.

[Mags FTW]

Does this mean LaCage will replace Fitz's and Bootlegger's as the new post-game hangout?