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Re: Jennings on the down low? Not anymore 

Post#81 » by chuckleslove » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:58 pm

People who post on this board though are to some degree a hardcore fan. I'm talking about the vast majority of fans who watch their team, maybe the other big games on ESPN, TNT, ABC, and then they see highlights on ESPN. They saw things like the 55 point game, or some of the sick moves he made. People who read this forum and post here aren't in the majority of NBA fans. I would be willing to make a very large bet that the vast majority of fans doesn't even know that Jennings mouthed off to KG walking out of the BC last year for instance.
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Post#82 » by Newz » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:58 pm

crkone wrote:You are talking about people posting on a basketball forum. The majority of people who watch the NBA don't post on forums.


People watching something like Sportscenter or reading about him on the Internet won't see this:

When people watch Jennings or see him... They see a guy with colored and/or crazy looking hair. A guy who dances after making big shots. A guy who trash talks veterans like Kevin Garnett after beating the Celtics in a regular season game. Then if they see things like this or read his twitter, they get a big dose of him doing some rather goofy or immature things.


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Most of the things listed above were on Sports Center or were on the front page of NBA.COM/CNNSI when the Bucks were hot last year. Jennings was a HUGE story.

I want the Milwaukee Bucks to lose one game this year and I hope it is to the Wizards. Other than that I'm hoping we go 81-1.

I hope John Wall dyes his hair blue. Then I hope Ersan hard fouls him and falls to the floor before John Wall stands over him while he is on the ground. Then I hope John Wall plays well down the stretch and they end up beating us in a highly contested game where he is trash talking Jennings the whole time. Then I hope he gets in Andrew Bogut's face while walking down the tunnel and talks trash to him all the way into the back.

After that I would log on RealGM and expect everyone on here to say that they think John Wall is awesome, just having fun and that they have absolutely no problem with him.
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Re: Jennings on the down low? Not anymore 

Post#83 » by Newz » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:01 pm

chuckleslove wrote:I would be willing to make a very large bet that the vast majority of fans doesn't even know that Jennings mouthed off to KG walking out of the BC last year for instance.


This was on ESPN, it was on the SportsCenter highlights. As was him dancing, doing the little circle around the eye thing and having dyed hair.

So now you get to pick and choose what people do and do not see/remember from highlights? Wow, this is going no where then.
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Post#84 » by chuckleslove » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:02 pm

Your comparison of Wall doing that to what Jennings did is hyperbole at its best. KG is a well known punk, even a lot of Celtics fans will admit he is a little bitch punk. Bogut and Ersan don't have that reputation.

That being said if it was a hard fought game and they came out on top and he talked a little smack after leaving the game I wouldn't have any problem with it.

Also after that happened, the majority of realgm DID say that Jennings was awesome for it, the reason they did was because KG is such a punk. There was quite a lengthy thread on the general board of people saying that they gained a lot of respect for Jennings after that.
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Re: Jennings on the down low? Not anymore 

Post#85 » by crkone » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:03 pm

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crkone wrote:You are talking about people posting on a basketball forum. The majority of people who watch the NBA don't post on forums.


People watching something like Sportscenter or reading about him on the Internet won't see this:

When people watch Jennings or see him... They see a guy with colored and/or crazy looking hair. A guy who dances after making big shots. A guy who trash talks veterans like Kevin Garnett after beating the Celtics in a regular season game. Then if they see things like this or read his twitter, they get a big dose of him doing some rather goofy or immature things.


?

Most of the things listed above were on Sports Center or were on the front page of NBA.COM/CNNSI when the Bucks were hot last year. Jennings was a HUGE story.

I want the Milwaukee Bucks to lose one game this year and I hope it is to the Wizards. Other than that I'm hoping we go 81-1.

I hope John Wall dyes his hair blue. Then I hope Ersan hard fouls him and falls to the floor before John Wall stands over him while he is on the ground. Then I hope John Wall plays well down the stretch and they end up beating us in a highly contested game where he is trash talking Jennings the whole time. Then I hope he gets in Andrew Bogut's face while walking down the tunnel and talks trash to him all the way into the back.After that I would log on RealGM and expect everyone on here to say that they think John Wall is awesome, just having fun and that they have absolutely no problem with him.



Yeah but the majority of NBA fans don't discuss this stuff. They'll see a quick replay of it, make a mental note on how they love his aggressiveness, and move on.

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Post#86 » by Newz » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:09 pm

chuckleslove wrote:Your comparison of Wall doing that to what Jennings did is hyperbole at its best. KG is a well known punk, even a lot of Celtics fans will admit he is a little bitch punk. Bogut and Ersan don't have that reputation.

That being said if it was a hard fought game and they came out on top and he talked a little smack after leaving the game I wouldn't have any problem with it.

Also after that happened, the majority of realgm DID say that Jennings was awesome for it, the reason they did was because KG is such a punk. There was quite a lengthy thread on the general board of people saying that they gained a lot of respect for Jennings after that.


Ohhhh!

So now the common fan knows that one of the most popular players in the entire NBA (Kevin Garnett) is a punk? That makes trash talking okay and the common fan will know that it was acceptable to do it to Kevin Garnett but not to a guy like Ersan?

What Celtics fans will admit it? Just the ones on RealGM or are you talking about their entire fan base?

If I was a casual basketball fan and I saw that Bucks/Celtics game or even the highlights of it. I would be saying "Look at this little idiot with dyed hair. He's getting up in guys faces that are twice his size, talking trash and acting like a total fool. Congrats, you won a regular season game there little guy.".

You know you would do the exact same thing, but you don't want to admit it because it's Brandon Jennings.
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Post#87 » by crkone » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:20 pm

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chuckleslove wrote:Your comparison of Wall doing that to what Jennings did is hyperbole at its best. KG is a well known punk, even a lot of Celtics fans will admit he is a little bitch punk. Bogut and Ersan don't have that reputation.

That being said if it was a hard fought game and they came out on top and he talked a little smack after leaving the game I wouldn't have any problem with it.

Also after that happened, the majority of realgm DID say that Jennings was awesome for it, the reason they did was because KG is such a punk. There was quite a lengthy thread on the general board of people saying that they gained a lot of respect for Jennings after that.


Ohhhh!

So now the common fan knows that one of the most popular players in the entire NBA (Kevin Garnett) is a punk? That makes trash talking okay and the common fan will know that it was acceptable to do it to Kevin Garnett but not to a guy like Ersan?

What Celtics fans will admit it? Just the ones on RealGM or are you talking about their entire fan base?

If I was a casual basketball fan and I saw that Bucks/Celtics game or even the highlights of it. I would be saying "Look at this little idiot with dyed hair. He's getting up in guys faces that are twice his size, talking trash and acting like a total fool. Congrats, you won a regular season game there little guy.".

You know you would do the exact same thing, but you don't want to admit it because it's Brandon Jennings.


I don't agree with chuck about KG. That's where the whole intimidation thing people make fun of him over comes from because the general NBA fans loves his aggression and don't see that it is fake. What I saw and heard numerous non hardcore fans say about Jennings is he is passionate, scored 55 pts in a game once, and brings excitement to the game with his hairstyles.

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Post#88 » by Newz » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:26 pm

crkone wrote:I don't agree with chuck about KG. That's where the whole intimidation thing people make fun of him over comes from because the general NBA fans loves his aggression and don't see that it is fake. What I saw and heard numerous non hardcore fans say about Jennings is he is passionate, scored 55 pts in a game once, and brings excitement to the game with his hairstyles.


Okay. I do not disagree that there are a large number of people out there who like Brandon Jennings. Obviously a lot of people do. I agree the 55 points, the hair, etc. has made some people call him a star and he has become a favorite of a lot of fans because of it. There is absolutely no debating that.

I know people in Wisconsin who call him an 'idiot' and a 'joke'. They say he shoots way too much and that he looks ridiculous with the hair the way it is. They are turned off by the dancing, the trash talk and getting in guys faces after the game. They want him to handle himself in a more professional manner. Do I agree? No, I think he should just have fun so long as it is within reason. I have nothing wrong with the video, with his hair, with the way he acts, etc. I think he's funny and I think he's good enough to back it up.

Clearly the people who love him outweigh the people who do not in Wisconsin though, which is expected. He is most likely liked more than disliked nation wide as well. I would say that he's one of the more disliked players by other teams fans though because of some of the things he does though... I also think that he is also one of the more entertaining players in the league though and I think his antics may eventually be a draw (if he gets good enough) because people want to come see him.

You are fooling yourself though if you don't think there are people out there that don't dislike him because of the flash, the trash talk, videos like this, his twitter, his poor shooting, etc. They aren't just "hating just to hate" either. If Brandon Jennings and Stephon Curry switched places and Jennings came into the BC, beat us, danced around, had dyed hair, trash talked, stood above one of our players and ripped on the face of our franchise while walking out of the stadium I would strongly dislike the guy.
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Post#89 » by crkone » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:33 pm

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crkone wrote:I don't agree with chuck about KG. That's where the whole intimidation thing people make fun of him over comes from because the general NBA fans loves his aggression and don't see that it is fake. What I saw and heard numerous non hardcore fans say about Jennings is he is passionate, scored 55 pts in a game once, and brings excitement to the game with his hairstyles.


Okay. I do not disagree that there are a large number of people out there who like Brandon Jennings. Obviously a lot of people do. I agree the 55 points, the hair, etc. has made some people call him a star and he has become a favorite of a lot of fans because of it. There is absolutely no debating that.

I know people in Wisconsin who call him an 'idiot' and a 'joke'. They say he shoots way too much and that he looks ridiculous with the hair the way it is. They are turned off by the dancing, the trash talk and getting in guys faces after the game. They want him to handle himself in a more professional manner. Do I agree? No, I think he should just have fun so long as it is within reason. I have nothing wrong with the video, with his hair, with the way he acts, etc. I think he's funny and I think he's good enough to back it up.

Clearly the people who love him outweigh the people who do not in Wisconsin though, which is expected. He is most likely liked more than disliked nation wide though. I would say that he's one of the more disliked players by other teams fans though because of some of the things he does... I also think that he is also one of the more entertaining players in the league though and I think his antics may eventually be a draw (if he gets good enough) because people want to come see him.

You are fooling yourself though if you don't think there are people out there that don't dislike him because of the flash, the trash talk, videos like this, his twitter, his poor shooting, etc. They aren't just "hating just to hate" either. If Brandon Jennings and Stephon Curry switched places and Jennings came into the BC, beat us, danced around, had dyed hair, trash talked, stood above one of our players and ripped on the face of our franchise while walking out of the stadium I would strongly dislike the guy.



All I'm saying is the majority of basketball fans don't know/care about Jennings twitter/personality stuff. That's what this whole argument is about. He shouldn't have to tone down what he does (as long as its not against the law or trashing your organization) because it doesn't mean anything in the long run. If he does slip up though, I do think that all this stuff will be amplified to the general public to throw fuel on the fire (as stupid as it is).

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Post#90 » by emunney » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:37 pm

There are a ton of people who didn't like MJ for sticking his tongue out, too. Those guys can high post in their Mark Price jerseys.
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Post#91 » by chuckleslove » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:37 pm

Newz wrote:
chuckleslove wrote:Your comparison of Wall doing that to what Jennings did is hyperbole at its best. KG is a well known punk, even a lot of Celtics fans will admit he is a little bitch punk. Bogut and Ersan don't have that reputation.

That being said if it was a hard fought game and they came out on top and he talked a little smack after leaving the game I wouldn't have any problem with it.

Also after that happened, the majority of realgm DID say that Jennings was awesome for it, the reason they did was because KG is such a punk. There was quite a lengthy thread on the general board of people saying that they gained a lot of respect for Jennings after that.


Ohhhh!

So now the common fan knows that one of the most popular players in the entire NBA (Kevin Garnett) is a punk? That makes trash talking okay and the common fan will know that it was acceptable to do it to Kevin Garnett but not to a guy like Ersan?

What Celtics fans will admit it? Just the ones on RealGM or are you talking about their entire fan base?

If I was a casual basketball fan and I saw that Bucks/Celtics game or even the highlights of it. I would be saying "Look at this little idiot with dyed hair. He's getting up in guys faces that are twice his size, talking trash and acting like a total fool. Congrats, you won a regular season game there little guy.".

You know you would do the exact same thing, but you don't want to admit it because it's Brandon Jennings.



You didn't do the Bogut/Ersan vs KG and Jennings vs Wall comparison in regards to the casual fan. You specifically said you expected to log on to realgm and see people talking about how cool Wall was over the proposed incident. People on realgm know and view KG as a punk for the most part, when Jennings did that for the most part people around here even on the general board thought it was awesome.

Bogut and Ersan do not have the same reputation around here of being punks.

I agree the casual every day fan would view the incidents the same if they saw them, but you specifically brought that point up in regards to myself and realgm and I personally wouldn't have a problem with Wall talking smack if they won a hard fought tightly contested game. I've talked plenty of **** in my day and its part of the game and competitive nature of sports.
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Post#93 » by Ayt » Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:00 pm

How can you not think this is funny?
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Post#94 » by BucksRUS » Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:01 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba-266095

Zing? Zing, I think. You don't often see young players calling out league MVPs, just a year into their NBA careers. But Brandon Jennings isn't your typical young player. I mean, a lot of guys don't dance to Lady Gaga alone, then put it on the Internet, but Jennings did that too. He's an iconoclast, I suppose.

He does make a good point, though. No, not about teaming up "to beat Kobe," considering Boston put its three Hall of Famers together in the summer following a season in which the Lakers went 42-40, only to see Los Angeles acquire Pau Gasol(notes) in order to compete against Boston. The good point he does make is about how NBA players are going to feel when they see their peers choosing to play together, rather than against each other. Kind of a "Hey, if those guys can do it, so should we" sort of thing that you've already seen happening with Chris Paul(notes) and Carmelo Anthony's(notes) trade requests, not to mention Amar'e Stoudemire's(notes) beckoning for them to join him in New York.
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Post#95 » by crkone » Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:09 pm

BucksRUS wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Brandon-Jennings-jokingly-plans-his-own-super-te;_ylt=Al7sVFHk6FwsQMTdb2lKzSS8vLYF?urn=nba-266095

Zing? Zing, I think. You don't often see young players calling out league MVPs, just a year into their NBA careers. But Brandon Jennings isn't your typical young player. I mean, a lot of guys don't dance to Lady Gaga alone, then put it on the Internet, but Jennings did that too. He's an iconoclast, I suppose.

He does make a good point, though. No, not about teaming up "to beat Kobe," considering Boston put its three Hall of Famers together in the summer following a season in which the Lakers went 42-40, only to see Los Angeles acquire Pau Gasol(notes) in order to compete against Boston. The good point he does make is about how NBA players are going to feel when they see their peers choosing to play together, rather than against each other. Kind of a "Hey, if those guys can do it, so should we" sort of thing that you've already seen happening with Chris Paul(notes) and Carmelo Anthony's(notes) trade requests, not to mention Amar'e Stoudemire's(notes) beckoning for them to join him in New York.



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Post#96 » by jerrod » Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:13 pm

i'm gonna throw out the idea that to the common fan, the jennings/garnett thing probably looked a lot like the blake/bogut incident.

remember the response to that on here?
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Post#97 » by Ayt » Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:14 pm

Wow, that GB thread was a complete train wreck.
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Post#98 » by Newz » Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:34 pm

jerrod wrote:i'm gonna throw out the idea that to the common fan, the jennings/garnett thing probably looked a lot like the blake/bogut incident.

remember the response to that on here?


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Post#100 » by LUKE23 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:38 pm

i'm gonna throw out the idea that to the common fan, the jennings/garnett thing probably looked a lot like the blake/bogut incident.


The (and it is a very significant one) difference between the two is that to me, the Jennings/KG spat was completely verbal (unless you believe it stemmed from the Big Baby hard foul earlier in the game), while Blake quite obviously intentionally tried to start something by making a physical action in that Clippers game. Blake instigated that situation, bottom line.

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