Official Transaction Ideas thread

[Penberthy]

Odom/Ron does NOTHING for Den other then keep them in medicority for the remainder of their contract, neither playoff bound nor bad enough to secure a top 3 pick.....LA starts with Bynum and even then Den wouldn't be that much more interested.

i see what ur saying, but this:
Billups/Lawson
JR/Afflalo
Ron/Odom
Odom/KMart/Al Harrington
Nene/Birdman
is a top 4 seed in the west, which is what denver is always content with. Melos scoring is replaced by the combo of ron and odoms scoring, plus their defense and rebounding improve. dont forget ron was putting up 20 ppg as the first option just a couple years ago. at this point there is not much difference between bynums injury prone 15/8 and nenes 14/7. nene played 82 games last yr, 77 the year before.

[laduane1]

Well first of all. Lakers draft picks are going to be 25 or lower. So there value is low. Lakers even sold last years #1 just not to have him on the team. Melo just turned 26 so he has a lot of years ahead of him. Giving up older Lakers who are 30 plus will not make Denver any better. Giving up Andrew at age 22 or so just makes the Lakers smaller. I just see to many things wrong with this idea.

Love to have him. He wants to go thru the Lebron junk. Be wanted and win. If he gets traded, as others have said. He is not going to the Pacific or West.

I say to him. take 3 years and 65 million and become a FA again when your 29 and you might be making 30 mil by that time.

[kooner]

We should try to land him but for lamar, sasha draft picks and cash. I beleive we can land him and I think he will play in LA

please guys, if you werent a Laker fan would you really trade Melo for that type of garbage?

I would not call Lamar garbage, as starter he can average atleast 17 point 10 rebound and like 1.5 assist per game and this would be one of the best offers they would get. It's not likely they would get a better offer look at what knicks are offering for him. Lamar is a great player dont call him garbage.

[LApwnd]

Odom did 17/8 as his best year and that was like ages ago and he is GARBAGE when you put him as a 2nd option, he still wildly inconsistent as a 4th option even to this day. NY can at least give young prospect, use some common sense wth does Den want with 30yrs old Odom?

[Penberthy]

Odom did 17/8 as his best year and that was like ages ago and he is GARBAGE when you put him as a 2nd option, he still wildly inconsistent as a 4th option even to this day. NY can at least give young prospect, use some common sense wth does Den want with 30yrs old Odom?

Odom would be their starting pf and backup sf. How many better staring pfs are better than him in the west at this point? pau, maybe dirk, maybe duncan, and thats it. how many back up sf are better than him? zero. they still have kmart and al harrningto at the pf, so lamar could get a lot of minutes at sf that ron doesnt take. there isnt a better sf rotation in the west than ron/lamar.

lamar goes back to 14/9 like he has done better than 5 years of his career. ron goes back to 17 ppg, which he has done better than 6 years of his career. and suddenly camelos production is replaced, and they have become a better rebounding and defensive team and much deeper. that is a top 4 team in the west, and denver is happy with that. what has their org ever done to show that they care about being more than a team with HCA in the first round.

[LApwnd]

Odom did 17/8 as his best year and that was like ages ago and he is GARBAGE when you put him as a 2nd option, he still wildly inconsistent as a 4th option even to this day. NY can at least give young prospect, use some common sense wth does Den want with 30yrs old Odom?

Odom would be their starting pf and backup sf. How many better staring pfs are better than him in the west at this point? pau, maybe dirk, maybe duncan, and thats it. how many back up sf are better than him? zero. they still have kmart and al harrningto at the pf, so lamar could get a lot of minutes at sf that ron doesnt take. there isnt a better sf rotation in the west than ron/lamar.

lamar goes back to 14/9 like he has done better than 5 years of his career. ron goes back to 17 ppg, which he has done better than 6 years of his career. and suddenly camelos production is replaced, and they have become a better rebounding and defensive team and much deeper. that is a top 4 team in the west, and denver is happy with that. what has their org ever done to show that they care about being more than a team with HCA in the first round.

yea go ahead and sell that to Den mgmt, I'm being realistic and you make sound so easy that Artest/Odom can easily revert back to what they did years ago, and just because 2 guys put up stats like that doesn't replace one guy on Melo lvl impact, its like saying we could trade for monta ellis/corre maggette for kobe since theirs add up to kobes

[Penberthy]

yea go ahead and sell that to Den mgmt, I'm being realistic and you make sound so easy that Artest/Odom can easily revert back to what they did years ago, and just because 2 guys put up stats like that doesn't replace one guy on Melo lvl impact, its like saying we could trade for monta ellis/corre maggette for kobe since theirs add up to kobes

so you are saying:
kobe=melo
AND
ellis+maggette = RON ARTEST+LAMAR ODOM

ok

[LApwnd]

if you honestly think Den would view obtaining Artest/Odom for Melo as a positive then I dont know what to tell you, bring all you logic to the table and brings you stats, cause the end of the day, reality will come calling maybe you'll actually pick up

[Penberthy]

if you honestly think Den would view obtaining Artest/Odom for Melo as a positive then I dont know what to tell you, bring all you logic to the table and brings you stats, cause the end of the day, reality will come calling maybe you'll actually pick up

i apologize for bringing logic and stats to the table, nobody informed me that you are so reviled by them.

[LApwnd]

if you honestly think Den would view obtaining Artest/Odom for Melo as a positive then I dont know what to tell you, bring all you logic to the table and brings you stats, cause the end of the day, reality will come calling maybe you'll actually pick up

i apologize for bringing logic and stats to the table, nobody informed me that you are so reviled by them.

go post your trade idea on Den forum and watch fast you get flammed, dont forget to post all the stats though it might help a bit

[tugs]

the stats do make sense but once you think again...


"Lamar Odom + Ron Artest for Carmelo Anthony"....





got this in the checker, what do you think about this?

Sasha + Ron for G Wallace

http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/


kinda lopsided but looks good.

[Grime_Wizard]

the stats do make sense but once you think again...


"Lamar Odom + Ron Artest for Carmelo Anthony"....





got this in the checker, what do you think about this?

Sasha + Ron for G Wallace

http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/


kinda lopsided but looks good.

how does this help the Bobcats

[Penberthy]

the stats do make sense but once you think again...


"Lamar Odom + Ron Artest for Carmelo Anthony"....





got this in the checker, what do you think about this?

Sasha + Ron for G Wallace

http://www.realgm.com/src_tradechecker/3/


kinda lopsided but looks good.

if you read the original trade someone had lamar+sasha for melo. i was simply stating that it would AT LEAST have to be lamar+ron, not that either scenario was likely.

[tugs]

how does this help the Bobcats

Charlotte is looking for a shooter, Sasha is that guy. they have Matt Carrol but dude is pretty 1 dimensional. Sasha isn't a lock down defender but is pesky.

i'm not sure how Ron will work out though. i just wanted GW in a Lakers uni and ridding Sasha's contract.

if you read the original trade someone had lamar+sasha for melo. i was
simply stating that it would AT LEAST have to be lamar+ron, not that
either scenario was likely.

my bad, i didn't notice that one but still like what you said...

[supaflash]

I could see Denver going for a deal based around Bynum, thats about the only way we'd ever have a chance at Mello. Bynum would allow them to play Nene at PF. They have a decent poor mans Mello to start at SF in Harrington, and then they can get other pieces with JR and Martins expiring.

Bynum + Picks and filler (ebanks, character) for Mello

Pipe dream but it would be fun. It woudl be Full time Pau/Lamar front line. Ron could play mins at 4 (so could Mello) and we could run big with Kobe, Ron, Mello, LO, Pau. How fun would that lineup be? LO at Point forward? Kobe and Ron switching on PGs? Mello can be a pretty damn good SG/SF defender when he puts is mind to it. We'd take a fat dump on that Mia team for sure then

We will anyway btw

ah summer dreamin...

[tugs]

Melo raffle on:

Report: Nuggets Preparing To Trade Melo

Anthony's camp has advised the Nuggets to deal the superstar forward since he plans to leave as a free agent next summer.

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68859/20100826/report_nuggets_preparing_to_trade_melo/

[saul silver]

Is it true Carmelo's "camp" is Lebron's Wes group? If so, I seriously doubt they'd want him to go the Lakers and bolster LA for the eventual Heat challenge to come.

[Dalakerbox]

Now I know our team is stacked and the FO did a great job putting us in Position to win our 3rd straight. But if a player such as Carmelo becomes available and our Star in Kobe has possibly signed his last NBA contract, wouldn't it make since to change the game plan and see what it would take to land him? I know everyone says the Nugs wouldn't trade with us, but this is not true because they tried to pry Character from us on draft night. I understand they wouldn't want to help us in a big way, but if we make a better offer than these other teams, they would be fools not to jump on it. I'm sure Denver learned from what happened this summer, and will not let their star leave with no compensation.I can see players like Artest, barnes, Sasha and character "or sub Artest for Odom". Throw in some draft picks, some money to help them buy out Sasha if they choose and that's a sweet deal. New York is talking Eddy (hasn't played in three years) Curry and Gallo. While Danillo may be good one day, he want equal Melo. Not saying our deal would equal Melo but it's close.Both teams would stay competitive, and we would stay rivals. The Lakers have a long history of trading for big name players, and this would cement our future as well as present day success. I didn't match up numbers and other players or terms would probably need to be added for it to work, but it's a good start in trade negotiations. Maybe the summer is just boring the ish outta me, and just needed to talk basketball for a moment???? Either way it was on my mind and thought I would bring up.

[Tekkenlaw]

Per wiretap the Nets aren't trading Lopez, minutely relevant to us since if we were in talks with the nugs which I doubt, we're offering the only true center.

[LApwnd]

Per wiretap the Nets aren't trading Lopez, minutely relevant to us since if we were in talks with the nugs which I doubt, we're offering the only true center.

just rumors and its wiretap, they are hardly ever right, push come to shove Den will get Lopez if they say Lopez or no deal. NJ aint making the playoffs this year no winning jack **** in the next 5 with Lopez as their center piece, as some have said Lee does 20/10 on a bad team himself lopez manages 18/8 and was featured on his team, I dont see him being that much better then 20/9 or something.