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Atlanta Hawks have reached buy-out w/ Le Havre 

Post#1 » by HMFFL » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:47 am

Atlanta Hawks have reached an agreement for the buy-out of Pape Sy with Le Havre

Finally, the Atlanta Hawks have reached an agreement for the buy-out of Pape Sy with Le Havre, the current club of the 22-year-old French guard. Sy was selected with the 53rd overall pick in the last NBA draft by the Hawks, after averaging 5.2 points and 1.7 rebounds per game in the last French Pro A league for Le Havre


I'm possibly one of Pape's biggest supporters and I look forward to watching him grow as a player with us. Now, it's just up to him working hard to develop his game, and our coaching staff to give him the opportunity to succeed.
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Post#2 » by evildallas » Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:49 am

I'm excited to have a foreign player come over and play and not just be a teaser for fans. Also I am pulling for Pape Sy to be a revelation and hopefully convince the ASG that 2nd round picks are valuable and not to be squandered in the future.
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Post#3 » by Harry10 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:12 am

he is listed as a PG/SG, i'm interested to see what position he will fill into.
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Post#4 » by raleigh » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:58 am

Yes! Mario West 2.0.
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Post#5 » by D21 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:18 am

Atlanta Hawks have reached an agreement for the buy-out of Pape Sy with Le Havre

ATL have denied this report : Link

mrhonline wrote:Yes! Mario West 2.0.


I don't think so, not on the final result, but on the potential. He's not set at only one position, but has potential to play PG, SG, SF for sure.
Need now to see at this level if he can really have vision enough to play good PG, if he has range to take 3pts shots at NBA distance,...

The only problem I see is that he's already 22, and not coming from high playing time, and like other prospect, we are not sure that coming to a a team playing for home court advantage in playoffs, so not having playing time to give to rookie, and sending them to NBDL, is the best thing to developp player, opposed to a team like a rebuilding SAC where you can play.
Now, if Le Havre will once again fight for staying in French Pro A (and not fight for a championship title) and not give playing time to young players, better have him now than later.
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Post#6 » by azuresou1 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:55 am

I'd be thrilled if Pape Sy turns into Boris Diaw who gave a ****.
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Post#7 » by raleigh » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:06 pm

LOL. If Sy if manages to crack the top 8 rotation in any point in his NBA career, he will be one of the biggest long shots to have ever succeeded.

Kudos for your optimism, though.
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Post#8 » by theatlfan » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:16 pm

I'm interested in seeing Pape Sy. LD likes him and supposedly he can shoot. If he is 6'7" (there are so many different reports here that I'm taking a wait and see approach to his height), then I honestly think he could become our Mo Evans next year. I'd be very happy with this year's draft if we can replace both Ja Crawford and Mo Evans next year with our 2 draft picks.
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Post#9 » by azuresou1 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:22 pm

Going off the eye test I'd say he looks like a lanky 6'5.
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Post#10 » by evildallas » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:32 pm

azuresou1 wrote:Going off the eye test I'd say he looks like a lanky 6'5.


I got the same impression watching the summer league games that he was in the 6'5" range, but that was a limited sample.
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Post#11 » by D21 » Wed Sep 1, 2010 8:53 am

mrhonline wrote:LOL. If Sy if manages to crack the top 8 rotation in any point in his NBA career, he will be one of the biggest long shots to have ever succeeded.

Kudos for your optimism, though.


Not so much more a surprise than Rodrigue Beaubois.
In 2007-08, Beaubois got nearly the same stats and playing time with Cholet than Pape Sy this season.
In 2008-09, before being drafted, he got more playing time in the second part of the season, and turned to show what he can do, and that's what put him higher in the draft than some weeks before the draft.
Pape Sy could have been in the same situation if staying with Le Havre, getting more playing time next season and drafted in 2011.
This is the mystery part : he never have opportunity to show what he can do like Beaubois, except in two or three games, and he did a good job in these games.
He's also older than Beaubois, but has the same kind of potential in the sense that he's more build to play in an NBA style of b-ball than a FIBA style.

He's a bigger long shot than Beaubois, but there's a possibility he can surprise like Beaubois did last season with DAL, because even in France, lots of people thought he would be sent to a NBDL team and nearly never play for DAL before returning to Europe.

It's the same thing with Pape Sy, but at a .5 level I would say.
And I prefer put some optimism on that in order to forget a bit of 124M sent to a guy that will never, never, never be worth that, but more half of that.
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Post#12 » by raleigh » Wed Sep 1, 2010 12:20 pm

Beaubois was scouted by a number of teams at the Eurocamp and possesses fascinating athletic skills.

As far as we know, no one other than the Hawks saw anything in Sy.
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Post#13 » by D21 » Wed Sep 1, 2010 12:58 pm

mrhonline wrote:As far as we know, no one other than the Hawks saw anything in Sy.


Yes, because no other team had workout with him, not that no other teams wanted to see him after Hawks did, but because ATL made him promise they would pick him at 53 only if he agree to cancel the other workout he was scheduled to do.
Had ATL not ask it, you can't know what other team would have seen.
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Post#14 » by evildallas » Thu Sep 2, 2010 1:34 am

No reason to hate on the Hawks trying something different. Also it sounds like a move that Drew is pushing for. If Sy had been brought in under Woody he'd have very little hope to see the floor.
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Post#15 » by FCNATL85 » Thu Sep 2, 2010 3:45 am

I still do not know for sure how tall the guy really is . He is listed from 1m90 to 1m99, almost a 4 inches deference 6'3" to 6'6" 1/2 . L'Equipe the #1 French sports magazine has him at 1m99 or 6'6"1/2.
I do not think that he can be compared to Beaubois as i do not see him playing the point in the NBA but rather a defensive 2.
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Post#16 » by evildallas » Thu Sep 2, 2010 5:11 am

FCNATL85 wrote:I still do not know for sure how tall the guy really is . He is listed from 1m90 to 1m99, almost a 4 inches deference 6'3" to 6'6" 1/2 . L'Equipe the #1 French sports magazine has him at 1m99 or 6'6"1/2.
I do not think that he can be compared to Beaubois as i do not see him playing the point in the NBA but rather a defensive 2.


I'm not saying that it makes him a PG, but they were playing him there at the start of summer league. An injury prevented a larger sample size. He was real shaky at first but he settled down and played better in the second half. Depending on actual size I agree that he's probably a swingman in the long run seeing time at both the 2 and 3 if he develops that much. We should learn from our last french man not to try to impose a role and just see where he develops. (After a couple of years trying to force Diaw into a PG it turned out that his best position in the NBA is PF.)
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Post#17 » by azuresou1 » Thu Sep 2, 2010 5:17 am

Hopefully the motion offense allows him a variety of roles in which to develop.
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Post#18 » by D21 » Thu Sep 2, 2010 8:33 am

FCNATL85 wrote:I do not think that he can be compared to Beaubois as i do not see him playing the point in the NBA but rather a defensive 2.


I don't think it was comparing how they play or their position, but their kind of potential.
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Post#19 » by D21 » Thu Sep 2, 2010 10:25 pm

According to AFP and L'Equipe, it's now official for Pape Sy.
Let's wait a confirmation from ATL.

"It's official now, Pape Sy will paly in NBA next season..."
Link: http://www.lequipe.fr/Basket/breves2010 ... lanta.html

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