Harris to PUP

[jakecronus8]

They got a third not a second for brett. In terms of impact, that is far less compensation.

[jakecronus8]

You sound like one of those fans that will want the Packers to lose so he can rag on about being right about TT. I've met a lot of them. Most of them have died off after TT has been proven to be right on about 80% of his moves, including the biggest one, telling Favre to take a f'ing hike and sticking with Rodgers.

Kampman had an ACL tear and we did get a pick for Favre. Did you expect him to get better than a 2nd rounder? The Jets pick was used to get Clay Matthews. I'd say that worked out pretty damn well.

You sound like one of those guys that think their team will be awesome no matter who points out the most obvious flaws and holes. Kinda like a raptors fan. No worries. Agree to disagree. You may think I'm negative. I think I'm realistic.

[rilamann]

The reason TT made the move was his confidence in AR. He just didn't want to make a division rival better. You play 12.5% of your schedule against that team, so it is a major impact on your record. Not trading him to the Vikings is smart, because it negatively impacts your team.

Exactly,the Favre salad tossers/TT haters always seem to forget the fact that Tavaris freakin Jackson was the Vikings other option at QB if they didn't acquire Favre.

These Favre jock riders always try make out like the Vikings are this smart team unlike the Packers (for wanting Favre) and unlike the Packers they still appreciate good old Favre.

I think every team in the league including the Packers would still appreciate Favre if Tavaris Jackson was their other option at QB.

[Kerb Hohl]

The issue is jakecronus and all other Ted haters, is that you guys have a selective memory when talking about all of these moves that you "predicted":

"OMG JUSTIN HARREL?!?!?! I'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THAT GUY!!!!"

"WTF GREG JENNINGS??!?!? WE NEEDED TO TAKE CHAD JACKSON"

"WHO THE F IS NICK COLLINS AND WHAT IS BETHUNE COOKMAN!??!?!"

But you will only recall saying it about Harrel. "Called it!!!!"

The Moss thing is really the only unanimous move where Ted probably botched it. But factor in that 30 other teams in the league thought the same way.

Listen, the guy has won GM of the year. He made the ballsiest move possibly in NFL history in telling Favre to take a hike.

These are the teams 5-6 recent years I'd rather have than the Pack(under TT):
Colts
Pats
Giants?
Saints
Chargers
Eagles?

Obviously I'd rather have a Super Bowl, but so far, the Giants really only captured lightning in a bottle. The Chargers have been the same as the Pack, unable to get to the big game, but have had amazing success otherwise. I put a few question marks in there because the Giants and Eagles may have had better success by some margin but have nowhere near the bright future of the Packers.

You're honestly going to complain about that? And no, I wouldn't put the Vikings success while Ted has been here as better than the Packers. It's close, but both have been to an NFC title but the Packers have a much brighter future. Otherwise, there have been peaks and valleys in both.

[LUKE23]

You sound like one of those guys that think their team will be awesome no matter who points out the most obvious flaws and holes. Kinda like a raptors fan. No worries. Agree to disagree. You may think I'm negative. I think I'm realistic.

I've pointed out the secondary depth and pass rush potential concerns all offseason. But I correctly realize that they are a SB contender right now. Who is the one bringing up our GM's "ego" and "creepiness" as reasons he doesn't like him. Smells like an agenda to me.

[paulpressey25]

The Packers needed O-line, D-line, RB, and more than anything safety help.

I agree with Ted's high picks the last two years. Linemen, Linemen and more Linemen. Getting Raji, Neal and Bulaga were the real needs of this team. We'll just have to see if those guys pan out. If they do, then this is a top four team for the next couple years and solid SB contender with staying power. If they don't we'll be an up and down gimmick team that should do well but not win it all.

[Reddeye]

I agree with Ted's high picks the last two years. Linemen, Linemen and more Linemen. Getting Raji, Neal and Bulaga were the real needs of this team. We'll just have to see if those guys pan out. If they do, then this is a top four team for the next couple years and solid SB contender with staying power. If they don't we'll be an up and down gimmick team that should do well but not win it all.

I have a good feeling about Neal turning into at least a solid DL. They need Raji and Bulaga to turn into very good players then barring injury this team is very solid on both lines. If they can keep Jenkins (who is a free agent) and Jollay can return next year they have a solid 5 guys when you included those two with Raji, Neal and Pickett. On the OL I think Lang can be at least a solid RT. If Bulaga turns out at LT then you have four guys including Sitton and Wells that are quality starters.

[jimmybones]

You can't bash TT for not making more moves in FA by saying he hit homeruns on Woodson and Pickett. The reason those were homeruns and we dont have any idiotic moves to talk about is because he's extremely calculated and won't make a wrong move in FA that could result in dead weight. I mean, let's look at this roster now and going forward. How on earth can you not be tickled silly with joy with the potential of this team now and over the next 5-10 years.

Rodgers, Finley, Jennings, Collins, Matthews- those guys are elite, and there is a list even longer when you go to the next tier, all guys he drafted.

[Wade-A-Holic]

You can't bash TT for not making more moves in FA by saying he hit homeruns on Woodson and Pickett. The reason those were homeruns and we dont have any idiotic moves to talk about is because he's extremely calculated and won't make a wrong move in FA that could result in dead weight. I mean, let's look at this roster now and going forward. How on earth can you not be tickled silly with joy with the potential of this team now and over the next 5-10 years.

Rodgers, Finley, Jennings, Collins, Matthews- those guys are elite, and there is a list even longer when you go to the next tier, all guys he drafted.

I generally agree with this, but let's not forget that he almost gave Lavar Arrington a lot of money. Luckily, he turned it down. I'm pretty certain there are a few other players that Thompson has gone after who have flopped elsewhere that I am forgetting about. Thompson and his scouting department are good at identifying players in free agency who are values and fit what we need in our system, but they're not perfect.

[Wade-A-Holic]

The Packers needed O-line, D-line, RB, and more than anything safety help.

I agree with Ted's high picks the last two years. Linemen, Linemen and more Linemen. Getting Raji, Neal and Bulaga were the real needs of this team. We'll just have to see if those guys pan out. If they do, then this is a top four team for the next couple years and solid SB contender with staying power. If they don't we'll be an up and down gimmick team that should do well but not win it all.

I love it when teams use the draft to build their lines first. The adage about winning the battles at the line of scrimmage translating into victories is a cliche for a reason.

[Ayt]

Can you answer the question about his arrogance?

He thinks he's smarter than everyone else. He picks small school guys way too high in the draft that he could have picked 2 rounds later, and doesn't draft for need when there are times he clearly should (should have taken defense instead of AR, LDO).

He also sticks to his plan when building a team, regardless of outside criticism. What kind of egomaniac operates that way?

[Siefer]

Can you answer the question about his arrogance?

He thinks he's smarter than everyone else. He picks small school guys way too high in the draft that he could have picked 2 rounds later, and doesn't draft for need when there are times he clearly should (should have taken defense instead of AR, LDO).

He also sticks to his plan when building a team, regardless of outside criticism. What kind of egomaniac operates that way?

[LUKE23]

Ayt's sarcasm is sly, you have to make sure you read his posts twice.

[Ill-yasova]

Took a ton of time to map out a huge post about why the TT hater was wrong only to later realize it was Ayt after I posted it and proceeded to delete hard work. Damn it.

[jimmybones]

You can't bash TT for not making more moves in FA by saying he hit homeruns on Woodson and Pickett. The reason those were homeruns and we dont have any idiotic moves to talk about is because he's extremely calculated and won't make a wrong move in FA that could result in dead weight. I mean, let's look at this roster now and going forward. How on earth can you not be tickled silly with joy with the potential of this team now and over the next 5-10 years.

Rodgers, Finley, Jennings, Collins, Matthews- those guys are elite, and there is a list even longer when you go to the next tier, all guys he drafted.

I generally agree with this, but let's not forget that he almost gave Lavar Arrington a lot of money. Luckily, he turned it down. I'm pretty certain there are a few other players that Thompson has gone after who have flopped elsewhere that I am forgetting about. Thompson and his scouting department are good at identifying players in free agency who are values and fit what we need in our system, but they're not perfect.

I don't know man, I don't know how you can fault him for looking into bringing certain guys in. In the end though, he didn't ink them to a contract. If he would have went all out to get them here, I'm sure he could have, but he didn't deem said players worth that risk.

[Ayt]

Took a ton of time to map out a huge post about why the TT hater was wrong only to later realize it was Ayt after I posted it and proceeded to delete hard work. Damn it.