Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote*

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If The Knicks swap Lopez for Gallo, who ends up with the Better Player?

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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#41 » by Trader_Joe » Thu Sep 2, 2010 5:40 pm

I think the 19 votes for NJ/Gallo are those confused by the wording of the poll.

Who ends up with the better player?
NY = Lopez
NJ = Gallo

If it were simply who where the better player, I think it would be even more in Lopez's favor.
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Post#42 » by DaFan334 » Thu Sep 2, 2010 5:45 pm

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Post#43 » by skorff26 » Thu Sep 2, 2010 8:04 pm

Definitely Lopez, even if Gallinari becomes a consistent all-star (I like him but that's still a big if), I think Brook would still have more value since Brook Lopez will be an all-star for several years and he plays a position that is the hardest to fill.
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Post#44 » by GoBobs » Thu Sep 2, 2010 8:17 pm

I think they are pretty close. All both guys have proven is that they can't carry a team to the playoffs.
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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#45 » by skflives » Thu Sep 2, 2010 8:25 pm

As a Knick fan I would pick Lopez over Gallo simply because of Lopez's position and his ability to score in the low post. But I would hate to give up Gallo.

As for the guy who said Knick fans wouldn't trade Gallo for Paul. Either you were talking about one dumb Knick fan or you're taking what someone said out of context. Most Knick fans would be willing to do that but would prefer to be greedy and find a way to have both.
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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#46 » by Trader_Joe » Thu Sep 2, 2010 8:32 pm

GoBobs wrote:I think they are pretty close. All both guys have proven is that they can't carry a team to the playoffs.

Couldn't the same have been said about Gerald Wallace for his entire Bobcat career until last season?

And yes I realize he made the playoffs on Sacramento as a reserve, but in 5 seasons in Charlotte as pretty much their best player (thus carrying the team) he was not able to take them there. In his 6th season with the team he final got there thanks to S.Jackson and TyThomas.

But back to the topic, a 21 year old who has played all 164 games in 2 seasons, and averaged 19/9/2/2 is clearly a better player and has more value than Gallo.
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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#47 » by princeofpalace » Thu Sep 2, 2010 8:35 pm

Honestly, I don't see how this is close at all

The fact that this poll is heavily in favor of Gallinari is crazy to me. The answer seems obvious as Lopez
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Post#48 » by phx#7 » Thu Sep 2, 2010 8:41 pm

princeofpalace wrote:Honestly, I don't see how this is close at all

The fact that this poll is heavily in favor of Gallinari is crazy to me. The answer seems obvious as Lopez


The poll is in favor of the Knicks receiving the better player, though it probably shouldn't be as close as it is and it may have to do with wording of the question.
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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#49 » by DieHardNETS » Thu Sep 2, 2010 11:18 pm

Not 1 GM in the NBA would trade Brook Lopez for Gallo...and if you argue this you are either:

A. a knicks fan
B. clueless

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Post#50 » by 5th pick sucks » Thu Sep 2, 2010 11:31 pm

I am Ra wrote:
xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:Gallo has as much value as Omri Casspi.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

This. Casspi has alot more value :D

Edit: Brook is alot better
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Post#51 » by no D in Hibachi » Thu Sep 2, 2010 11:32 pm

turtlesnjoi wrote:The Knicks would end up with the better fantasy player who puts up empty stats and would lose a ton of games.

The Nets would end up with the better real life player and would actually win some games, which they couldn't do with Brook Lopez mind you.

I don't know why everyone just loves Brook Lopez but guys like Zach Randolph and SAR are pariahs.

This is the most unbelievable post in a long time. What's better empty stats on a historically bad team or no stats on a humiliating team?
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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#52 » by totallyr » Fri Sep 3, 2010 3:48 am

You had to know the Knicks would be the clear cut winners here, also thanks to the Gallinari family for voting keeping this vote from being a total rout
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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#53 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Sep 3, 2010 5:58 am

This is easily Lopez, but some of the hate for Gallo is unfounded.
Gallo has a skillset and ceiling similar to Danny Granger IMO.
He's not nearly as athletic and doesn't have the same handle, but a lot of the other similarities are there, both skills, abilities and intangibles.
That said, Brook's ceiling is so much higher then the perception of him from many that have not seen him much besides when their team played the Nets and I think it's very likely he's a Gasol clone sooner then later with even more room for growth.
Also, I think it's more likely Brook reaches his ceiling or close to it then Gallo and if Gallo doesn't reach his ceiling and winds up, say, an 18/7/2.5 guy at SF, while having some trouble guarding the quicker of the opposition, while Lopez is a legit 18/9/3/2 second option, this comes back to Lopez' position, probably the hardest to fill at his level of play and arguably the most important.
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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#54 » by CB-Blazer » Fri Sep 3, 2010 6:28 am

So this thread wasn't a joke? Someone honestly doesn't know the answer to this question?

Lopez....easily.
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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#55 » by ITK9 » Fri Sep 3, 2010 9:19 am

5th pick sucks wrote:
I am Ra wrote:
xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:Gallo has as much value as Omri Casspi.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

This. Casspi has alot more value :D

Edit: Brook is alot better

Casspi is as close to Gallo as Gallo is to Brook Lopez.
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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#56 » by moocow007 » Fri Sep 3, 2010 2:27 pm

CB-Blazer wrote:So this thread wasn't a joke? Someone honestly doesn't know the answer to this question?

Lopez....easily.


This thread is the OP's personal vandetta after apparently being insulted on the Knick board for trolling. There's a reason why he's been suspended. He's done this on just about every board (General Board, Player Comparison Board). Talk about someone that got his panties up in a bunch.

If any of you guys want an example of what RGM considers a "baiting" thread? What the OP did here is it. Do it and we'll suspend you. Do it again...and...well...ESPN boards are nice this time of year I hear...8 year olds cursing and partially formed sentences galore. Weee!!!

And to be quite honest, Comboguardcity should just get his ESPN login ready just in case.
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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#57 » by Rockice_8 » Fri Sep 3, 2010 3:05 pm

Rockazoids wrote:
Bucksfans1and2 wrote:Just a question. If this was Bogut vs. Gallo do you think the poll results would be identical?

Here a answer for you
1st this should be on the Comparisons board, this is just a BS way to put it on the Trade Board
2nd try Gallo vs Bucks PF/SF or Nets PF/SF


Yes this is a comparison but there's really no comparision here. Brook is clearly far and away the better player at the more important position. The reason they are compared is because they are both the best rising stars on each of the respective teams who will soon be neighbors and will always be rivals.

Since you brought it up Favors ceiling is proabably higher then both Gallo and Lopez (who knows if he will ever see it though) so I wouldn't trade him for Gallo either. Right there the Nets have a young frontcourt that could grow into one of the best in the next 2-4 years. Gallo isn't going to get you either of them.

Gallo just isn't one of those top teir prospects like Lopez or Favors. He still has a chance to be cause I think he has the skills but the way he was showcased last year as not much more then a shooter he still has alot to prove. Can he create for himself and others, can he rebound better, and can he develop is offensive game inside.

He should be the 2nd option on this Knicks team behind Amare so this year we will see if he will take his game to the next level and how that translates into wins.
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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#58 » by ahartleyvu » Fri Sep 3, 2010 3:44 pm

Lopez > Gallo > Casspi
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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#59 » by swisscheeseD » Fri Sep 3, 2010 4:10 pm

The OP is just trying to prove a point while skewing the context in which the original discussion was posed. By asking "who's the better player", it obviously skews the perception in favor of Lopez...especially when asking that now.

The original debate on the Knicks board was "Would you trade Gallo for Lopez"...ALL THINGS CONSIDERED...like the fact that Bropez isn't an ideal fit into MDA's system. He's much more of a traditional "back to the basket" Center, while D'Antoni prefers his bigs to face up and finish on the run.

Of course a thread about a Knicks player on the KNICKS BOARD will see it's share of homerism, yet at the same time it's not that unbelievable when you look at it objectively.

Fact is...I'd rather have Robin Lopez than Brook for this currently constructed Knicks roster and system. Is Robin better than Brook?
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Re: Hypotheical Trade - Gallinari for Brook Lopez *Please Vote* 

Post#60 » by TheGreatWall » Fri Sep 3, 2010 4:11 pm

swisscheeseD wrote:Fact is...I'd rather have Robin Lopez than Brook for this currently constructed Knicks roster and system. Is Robin better than Brook?


ROFL

A face-up center huh? So you'd rather have Gallinari over Dwight Howard huh?

Jeezus H. Krist do you dudes actually believe your nonsense?

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