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Post#121 » by pennyliu123 » Fri Sep 3, 2010 12:39 am

I guess he will play the next game and then rest till the new season...
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Post#122 » by dobrojim » Fri Sep 3, 2010 4:52 am

Ruzious wrote:
Pollinator wrote:Any updates on Yi's leg? According to the FIBA site China's coach (Bob Donewald) says he needs an MRI on his achilles. :-?

Ouch, achilles tendons are kinda important for basketball players. I had to stop playing for a full 2 years because of a partially torn achilles.

...ending a potentially great career. :winkgrin:

Yi needs a break here... er... good luck to Yi.


I guess the important question here is whether it's torn even partially,
or just sore/inflamed. It's a slow thing to heal in whichever case.
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Post#123 » by hands11 » Fri Sep 3, 2010 12:38 pm

http://www.truthaboutit.net/2010/09/yi- ... njury.html

Yi sat out of Thursday’s game against Turkey with an injury to his Achilles tendon.

China’s coach, Bob Donewald, said that the Achilles was “inflamed a little bit,” and that Yi would be getting an MRI on it. Donewald also called Yi a “warrior,” because he played hurt after sustaining the injury Wednesday against Russia. Surely cringe-worthy news for Wizards brass. Those darn international competitions.

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So still no news on the MRI results ?

Regardless of if it is a tear or just tendonitis, he needs to rest it. Shut it down big guy so you can get this thing corrected before it becomes a bigger problem. There are several web site talking about treatment from ice, to rest, to new footwear, shots, stretching, etc. but everything I read says, don't try to play through it.

Sounds like from what he is still able to do on the court that he has tendonitis or a strain and not a rupture. I guess he could have a mild tear also.

SHUT IT DOWN Yi.. The China team sucks. Come on home. You did your job.
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Post#124 » by verbal8 » Fri Sep 3, 2010 1:28 pm

hands11 wrote:http://www.truthaboutit.net/2010/09/yi-jianlian-sits-chinas-group-c-fiba-finale-with-achilles-injury.html

Yi sat out of Thursday’s game against Turkey with an injury to his Achilles tendon.

China’s coach, Bob Donewald, said that the Achilles was “inflamed a little bit,” and that Yi would be getting an MRI on it. Donewald also called Yi a “warrior,” because he played hurt after sustaining the injury Wednesday against Russia. Surely cringe-worthy news for Wizards brass. Those darn international competitions.

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So still no news on the MRI results ?

So what is the likelihood that he could play on a repture?

I can't speak for a mild tear, but there is no chance he could play if it was a rupture. Running would be impossible with a rupture. Walking is extremely awkward with a ruptured achilles.
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Post#125 » by dobrojim » Fri Sep 3, 2010 4:44 pm

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hands11 wrote:http://www.truthaboutit.net/2010/09/yi-jianlian-sits-chinas-group-c-fiba-finale-with-achilles-injury.html

Yi sat out of Thursday’s game against Turkey with an injury to his Achilles tendon.

China’s coach, Bob Donewald, said that the Achilles was “inflamed a little bit,” and that Yi would be getting an MRI on it. Donewald also called Yi a “warrior,” because he played hurt after sustaining the injury Wednesday against Russia. Surely cringe-worthy news for Wizards brass. Those darn international competitions.

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So still no news on the MRI results ?

So what is the likelihood that he could play on a repture?

I can't speak for a mild tear, but there is no chance he could play if it was a rupture. Running would be impossible with a rupture. Walking is extremely awkward with a ruptured achilles.


Verb8 is exactly right. A mild tear is an iffy thing. Yi would probably miss some time.
An outright rupture which does NOT sound like what has happened
(the symptoms would be much more obvious) would mean the likely
loss of the entire season.
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Post#126 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Sep 4, 2010 8:13 am

verbal8 wrote:
hands11 wrote:http://www.truthaboutit.net/2010/09/yi-jianlian-sits-chinas-group-c-fiba-finale-with-achilles-injury.html

Yi sat out of Thursday’s game against Turkey with an injury to his Achilles tendon.

China’s coach, Bob Donewald, said that the Achilles was “inflamed a little bit,” and that Yi would be getting an MRI on it. Donewald also called Yi a “warrior,” because he played hurt after sustaining the injury Wednesday against Russia. Surely cringe-worthy news for Wizards brass. Those darn international competitions.

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So still no news on the MRI results ?

So what is the likelihood that he could play on a repture?

I can't speak for a mild tear, but there is no chance he could play if it was a rupture. Running would be impossible with a rupture. Walking is extremely awkward with a ruptured achilles.


Roger that, verbal8.

I ruptured my Achilles in the last pickup game I played, back in 2007.

The first thing that happens when it ruptures is you'll hear a loud pop. I thought somebody threw a weight plate and hit me with it or that weights or a beam fell from the ceiling and hit the back of my leg. You feel like somebody shot you. The rupture hurts your entire leg. Your heel area, your whole calf can throb. I even had blood in my urine a day or two after the rupture. I spent the next 4 1/2 months in a cast from my knee down. And after that it was a LONG time before I could flex my foot and get that tendon strong again. It took well over a year for the pain in the achilles area to go away to the touch and for me to feel healed for the most part.

If you've ever driven a car and had the accelerator cable pop and the gas pedal gets stuck to the floor, that's what your foot does after the achilles tendon that supports that foot ruptures. When you feel behind your heel, that once-strong tendon has a hole or a complete tear. You can feel it shrivel up the back of your calf. It is nasty. Worse than that it is VERY painful.

Almost three years later, the memory of that rupture and the fear of rerupture are so fresh in my mind I don't even think about playing pickup games any more at 49 years old. (I would only reconsider if I lose about 45 pounds and if I committed to a lot of stretching or yoga first.)

verbal8, I actually did somehow get from the court to my car to the ER on my own after the rupture.
I don't know how I did it. Awkward is putting it midly.

No way Yi ruptured his achilles and he's not already been declared out for the season, if not longer.
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Post#127 » by The Fax » Sun Sep 5, 2010 8:24 am

What's the plan with Yi in terms of the rotation this season? Is he our first big off the bench? After watching him play for China the past couple weeks I think we got a steal with this guy. He's deceptively fast for someone his height and he really impressed me with how he attacked the basket at times. Of course, there were times when he drifted out to the three point line and kind of watched his less talented teammates take bad shots too but I think we got a real contributor here and he's still only 22 years old! Very nice, under the radar move by Ernie. I'm just not sure how Flip is going to use him.
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Post#128 » by crackhed » Sun Sep 5, 2010 12:53 pm

maybe can he play center ft?
yi is 7, 250
dray is 6 11, 260
mcgee is 7, 252
seraph is 6 9, 264
yi rebounds well but suspect overall defense
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Post#129 » by Ruzious » Sun Sep 5, 2010 2:59 pm

crackhed wrote:maybe can he play center ft?
yi is 7, 250
dray is 6 11, 260
mcgee is 7, 252
seraph is 6 9, 264
yi rebounds well but suspect overall defense

Is Yi really that big. I'd guess he's 6'11, between 235 and 240. Either way, he's not a center, and he really hasn't shown in the NBA that he's a good rebounder. I think he was an excellent addition, but he'll be the PF when teamed with either Blatche, Jav, or Seraphin.
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Post#130 » by BruceO » Mon Sep 6, 2010 11:32 am

no D in Hibachi wrote:
BruceO wrote:a former number 6 draft pick and he lead his school to the NCAA final four. This guy is coming in to be our bench player and guys complained as though they could have done a better job than our GM who is a proffesional and probably has more information on the player and the situations than we do.
Wait, are we talking about Yi or Randy Foye? Who was the #6 pick in the 2008 draft? Is he a bust? If so I expect he'll be on our roster next season and the master of spin will convince me it's a good acquisition.

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It wasn't necessary to change my words to try and make your point valid. I understand the skepticism over Yi. Myself I like to project ahead with players in order to see whether it's a good bet to acquire them when their value is low. Buy low, sell high.

There's a huge difference between Randy Foye and Yi. First the way foye was acquired along with our fifth pick ( where once Evans was taken there was no use retaining) was done in order to get rid of massive amounts of salary we didn't think we'd be able to dump. If you say we were going to have rubio at that pick, I'll reply we now have wall. We got lucky to get wall and got lucky to be able to get rid of all that salary. Acquiring Foye was an unavoidable part of the transaction while Yi is a voluntary trade that is more based on the player.

Also some of the limitations that plague foye is he is a tweener. He cannot play pure pg and is too short to play the 2 consistently. Yi on the other hand is a 7 footer who is the leading player in a country as massive as china. Final four competition is much weaker than the worlds leave alone international basketball. We are talking about a skilled seven footer who has had tremendous potential vs an undersized shooting guard. Yi has a physical and speed advantage at his position while foye does not. IMO that's what's holding foye back plus the fact he had an injury in his second year if i'm not mistaken. If foye had ample size for the 2 or pg ability for the one it'd be a different story. Tweener guards are a dime a dozen. Skilled 7 footers are not. And the world games is a much bigger deal than NCAA final four against 18-21 year olds.
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Post#131 » by Ruzious » Mon Sep 6, 2010 3:41 pm

Sounds like Yi is going to play tomorrow. ? This is a cut and paste from today's hoopshype.com:

"He has been looking good as the leader of a Chinese national team that advanced to the knockout phase (despite a 1-4 record in group play). But now he is battling an inflamed Achilles tendon. He sat out the final game for China in group play, had an MRI on his leg, which found nothing serious. He is expected to be out there Tuesday when China takes on Lithuania. None of this should carry over to the season, he would have a few weeks to rest and recover. And the Wizards will be careful with him during camp, because they don't want this to be a lingering thing. NBCSports.com"
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Post#132 » by hands11 » Mon Sep 6, 2010 4:47 pm

No doubt him being able to play in single elimination games on a larger stage is a good opportunity for him to grow mentally. If he can step it up, that would be great for us. It's a great chance for him to progress before camp starts.

Looks like we have three bigs: 6-11, 7-0, 7-1 but all want to be PFs

Some even count Seraphin as a PF.

Well, someone is going to have to play center. Good thing he is getting minutes at center for China.
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Post#133 » by Ruzious » Mon Sep 6, 2010 5:34 pm

hands11 wrote:No doubt him being able to play in single elimination games on a larger stage is a good opportunity for him to grow mentally. If he can step it up, that would be great for us. It's a great chance for him to progress before camp starts.

Looks like we have three bigs: 6-11, 7-0, 7-1 but all want to be PFs

Some even county Seraphin as a PF.

Well, someone is going to have to play center. Good thing he is getting minutes at center for China.

It makes no sense... to me... to play Yi at center when you have 3 bigs better suited to playing there - not even including Hilton Armstrong.
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Post#134 » by hands11 » Tue Sep 7, 2010 12:11 am

Ruzious wrote:
hands11 wrote:No doubt him being able to play in single elimination games on a larger stage is a good opportunity for him to grow mentally. If he can step it up, that would be great for us. It's a great chance for him to progress before camp starts.

Looks like we have three bigs: 6-11, 7-0, 7-1 but all want to be PFs

Some even count Seraphin as a PF.

Well, someone is going to have to play center. Good thing he is getting minutes at center for China.

It makes no sense... to me... to play Yi at center when you have 3 bigs better suited to playing there - not even including Hilton Armstrong.


Really. I don't think we have one pure center on the team so my guess is they are going to give everyone some minutes there. I like the idea of giving Seraphin a shot a the job. I just hope he is ready to give a few quality minutes there. The start of camp will be interesting as they figure out who plays where, with whom and when.

All I was saying is it can't hurt for him to get experience there so we have more options.

Lots of questions. Heck, we still don't even know who will be healthy to start the year or if we are going to add Singleton.
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Post#135 » by NOODLESTYLE » Tue Sep 7, 2010 9:12 pm

Ruzious wrote:
crackhed wrote:maybe can he play center ft?
yi is 7, 250
dray is 6 11, 260
mcgee is 7, 252
seraph is 6 9, 264
yi rebounds well but suspect overall defense

Is Yi really that big. I'd guess he's 6'11, between 235 and 240. Either way, he's not a center, and he really hasn't shown in the NBA that he's a good rebounder. I think he was an excellent addition, but he'll be the PF when teamed with either Blatche, Jav, or Seraphin.


Pretty much what you said. Yi is not a Center, unless the Wizards are playing Run N Gun offense against a team that doesn't have any post up players. He will continue to struggle against bigger and stronger players, this is why it's better to have McGee or even Blatche cover those guys.
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Post#136 » by NOODLESTYLE » Tue Sep 7, 2010 9:13 pm

CHINA just played their final game in this year's World Championships.

Yi finishes with 11 points, 12 rebounds, 2 steals, and 2 blocks on 4-9 FG in 35 mins.
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Post#137 » by fishercob » Tue Sep 7, 2010 9:18 pm

NOODLESTYLE wrote:CHINA just played their final game in this year's World Championships.

Yi finishes with 11 points, 12 rebounds, 2 steals, and 2 blocks on 4-9 FG in 35 mins.


I haven't seen the game yet, but based on what I saw on Twitter it seems like he looked pretty good. I'm guessing he has a decent shot at first team all-tournament. Second team for sure.
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Post#138 » by Pollinator » Tue Sep 7, 2010 10:01 pm

Yi looked good out there- this was the most physical and fundamentally sound play I've seen from him yet. He was aggressive on the boards and got some important rebounds in the 4th quarter; on the flip side, though, China got crushed by 20 in the overall rebounding numbers, so obviously it was a mixed bag.

Lithuania blanketed him pretty well throughout the second half and it almost looked like the Chinese gave up on trying to get him the ball. Fortunately the Wizards have this new guy named John Wall who will probably be a little better at getting Yi the ball than his Chinese backcourt was.

Sounds like he really had a good tournament and that Bob Donewald deserves some credit for that as well as knowing when to rest him. There is an interesting interview with Donewald here at truthaboutit.net where he says that Yi sometimes helped with translating his coaching into Chinese for the rest of the team, and I wonder if that didn't help him with his own understanding of the game. Hopefully that carries over once he gets to the Wizards.
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Post#139 » by pennyliu123 » Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:21 am

I was on a trip so I only saw a few minutes of the 3rd quarter of the game. Yi was obviously slower than he should be, he was not recovered from the injury. So 11 p 12 r are really good numbers for him, he will play better when he is healthy.
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Post#140 » by verbal8 » Wed Sep 8, 2010 11:50 am

It was good to see that Yi came back for the Lithuanian game. The 11 points was ok, but the 12 rebounds was a really good sign. Hopefully the Yi in the world championships is the one that shows up at the start of the season, rather than the one that has been in the NBA so far.

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