Team USA Basketball

[ZzAzZ]

When's the last time you checked? I was messing with it this morning and I am new to the yahoo version but I think I got it covered, I'll go check again. You're awfully antsy to get smoked in some fantasy football, I like it.

[HartfordWhalers]

Yea, you look set now, although yahoo thinks Justin Tryon isn't worth a tenth of Iggy's contract.
See what I did there? Back on topic!

[DemandNotice598]

To 76ciology last post to me:

*easy friend...no need to get defensive. i just have my own opinion of you and stated it. here's you're post on Evan Turners height and length and my rebuttal. all from the 76ers Vs. Jazz Friday 10AM thread:*
76ciology wrote:

dayman wrote:"Kobe's not that athletic anymore, and he managed to score 27 ppg.

Will, determination, and skill usually will determine how good of a player you are. If he has the will to be the best then that will overcome most of his physical deficiencies."

-76ciology

"But I can assure you that Kobe's more athletic and longer than Turner. I think Kobe's still more athletic than 70 to 80% of the SGs out there. Length wise, Kobe has a pretty long wingspan.

Will, determination and skill gets you floating in the NBA. Athleticism and Size sets you apart from the average players and the stars/super stars."

-DemandNotice598
"wat, you want a 7 foot shooting guard or something?

Turner is 6'7", an excellent height for a shooting guard. jordon was 6'6". he'll be fine...ur acting like he's maxed out 5 summer leagues in and u can read his future. Jrue didnt look good in summer league last year....look at him this year. you and some people are overreacting, panicking, and just too into this summer league BS. John Salmons?? lmao...please."

*you questioned ET height, wingspan, athleticism, and ability to do it in the NBA(i'm not sure where ur getting all this ur a big Evan Turner supporter mess from). that Kobe was/is built for the NBA more so physically than ET. which is weird since ET is taller than Kobe by an inch.*

before those posts you even stated:
-76ciology
"I can't see him averaging more than 20 to 22ppg. He just doesn't have the elite size and the athleticism to be a LEGIT scorer in the league. I can see his ceiling, scoring wise, as the John Salmons of last season (a 20ppg scorer) but that's it. Why Salmons? Because both Salmons and Turner seems to lack that x-factor that separates them, physically and athletically, from their opponents. Both guys seem to rely 90% of their scoring on their skills alone."

*so yea, with all those contradictions and BS knowledge you pretend to have, you can see why i have gotten to a habit of overlooking your posts as garbage posts. you flip flop between ur so called beliefs just to try to win an argument. and most of the things you say are just things you pulled out your butt. instead of being rational and real with ur post you change them to fit the argument. in this thread you're a so-called ET supporter and low key Iggy basher. but in the summer league thread you were bashing Mr. Turner almost to the point of saying he'll be mediocre. i'm sure we'll disagree though.*

like i said. i havent posted on here much so i did the best i could with the quoting. i think i kind of separated who said what...hope its easy enough to sift through and understand for everyone.

[HartfordWhalers]

Oh yeah, this thread just got hit with a rebuttal from an unrelated thread from two months ago.

Btw, I noticed looking at that old thread that the guy that always ended every comment in was now waived, which I guess I missed.

Slightly on the original topic: Mozgov didn't suck today.

Further on topic:

Lithuania: 12-21 3 pointers, Argentina 4 - 20, loos like Lithuania is next.

[76ciology]

To 76ciology last post to me:

*easy friend...no need to get defensive. i just have my own opinion of you and stated it. here's you're post on Evan Turners height and length and my rebuttal. all from the 76ers Vs. Jazz Friday 10AM thread:*
76ciology wrote:

dayman wrote:"Kobe's not that athletic anymore, and he managed to score 27 ppg.

Will, determination, and skill usually will determine how good of a player you are. If he has the will to be the best then that will overcome most of his physical deficiencies."

-76ciology

"But I can assure you that Kobe's more athletic and longer than Turner. I think Kobe's still more athletic than 70 to 80% of the SGs out there. Length wise, Kobe has a pretty long wingspan.

Will, determination and skill gets you floating in the NBA. Athleticism and Size sets you apart from the average players and the stars/super stars."

-DemandNotice598
"wat, you want a 7 foot shooting guard or something?

Turner is 6'7", an excellent height for a shooting guard. jordon was 6'6". he'll be fine...ur acting like he's maxed out 5 summer leagues in and u can read his future. Jrue didnt look good in summer league last year....look at him this year. you and some people are overreacting, panicking, and just too into this summer league BS. John Salmons?? lmao...please."

*you questioned ET height, wingspan, athleticism, and ability to do it in the NBA(i'm not sure where ur getting all this ur a big Evan Turner supporter mess from). that Kobe was/is built for the NBA more so physically than ET. which is weird since ET is taller than Kobe by an inch.*

before those posts you even stated:
-76ciology
"I can't see him averaging more than 20 to 22ppg. He just doesn't have the elite size and the athleticism to be a LEGIT scorer in the league. I can see his ceiling, scoring wise, as the John Salmons of last season (a 20ppg scorer) but that's it. Why Salmons? Because both Salmons and Turner seems to lack that x-factor that separates them, physically and athletically, from their opponents. Both guys seem to rely 90% of their scoring on their skills alone."

*so yea, with all those contradictions and BS knowledge you pretend to have, you can see why i have gotten to a habit of overlooking your posts as garbage posts. you flip flop between ur so called beliefs just to try to win an argument. and most of the things you say are just things you pulled out your butt. instead of being rational and real with ur post you change them to fit the argument. in this thread you're a so-called ET supporter and low key Iggy basher. but in the summer league thread you were bashing Mr. Turner almost to the point of saying he'll be mediocre. i'm sure we'll disagree though.*

like i said. i havent posted on here much so i did the best i could with the quoting. i think i kind of separated who said what...hope its easy enough to sift through and understand for everyone.

This is what you posted..

as soon as he said Evan Turner is too short for a shooting guard i was done lol.

At what part of those posts that you posted did I say that ET was too short for a SG?

"I can't see him averaging more than 20 to 22ppg. He just doesn't have the elite size and the athleticism to be a LEGIT scorer in the league. I can see his ceiling, scoring wise, as the John Salmons of last season (a 20ppg scorer) but that's it.

What I was implying in those posts that I can't see Evan Turner being an elite scorers like Kobe because he lacks the elite length and athleticism that most elite scorers have. And I don't think that anyone would argue that ET wouldn't be an elite scorer like what I believe.


I also think that Kobe is longer than ET, due to his wingspan and not because of his height. Which is true because Kobe's wingspan is said to measured around 6'11".

"But I can assure you that Kobe's more athletic and longer than Turner.I think Kobe's still more athletic than 70 to 80% of the SGs out there. Length wise, Kobe has a pretty long wingspan.

I never, ever, said that ET was too short to play SG.

[SJSF]

Iggy comes up big against Russia. He plays an amazing 13 minutes???? Wow, he carried the team tonight in their biggest game. He then gets benched and they play a 3 guard rotation for the remainder of the game. LOL

[HartfordWhalers]

Iggy comes up big against Russia. He plays an amazing 13 minutes???? Wow, he carried the team tonight in their biggest game. He then gets benched and they play a 3 guard rotation for the remainder of the game. LOL

Insightful. I going on a limb and saying that you simply read the box score, and didn't bother to watch the game. And its crazy, I mean right, he barely even scored. What a loser!

Sure, sure, he was second in the team in assists, second in offense and total rebounds, and played very nice Defense when out there.

And sure he played that few minutes only because of two very early fouls, and the team fell behind in the second only to go on a run catching up when he came back in, but, coincidences happen.

When there is a game where Iggy gets love on the GB as being one of the better performers for team USA, it is nice to know we have you to remind us that he didn't put up enough stats.

[ChuckS]

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[ChuckS]

Iggy comes up big against Russia. He plays an amazing 13 minutes???? Wow, he carried the team tonight in their biggest game. He then gets benched and they play a 3 guard rotation for the remainder of the game. LOL

Actually -- if you watched the game and/or cared to be less disingenuous -- you would have more appreciation of his contribution.

Iguodala got two quick fouls early and had to sit most of the first quarter. K put him back in midway (I think) through the second. While he was out we trailed or were even. When he returned, he was instrumental in our taking somewhat control of the game. (Our lead was, however, cut to five before the half.)

In the few (13) minutes he was in, he had 6 points on (2-4), the same as Rose and Odom (who also played a great game), but more efficiently, grabbed important rebounds against their huge front line, and when stuck with a seven footer on a switch directly under the basket, stole the ball.

He was called for his third foul somewhat early in the third and K took him out. Westbrook, although a guard, has been his replacement lately. He got burned on some steal attempts in the first half but, quite frankly, was awesome in the second. He may have been almost as important to the win as Durant, who scored whenever we needed it. Russell had three mid-court steals which he converted to breakaway baskets, which I think put the game all but out of reach. His hot hand, and a smart coach sticking with what is working, are primarily why Iggy was not needed.

Having watched all the games, it is my belief that Dre is like K's "Linus Blankie". He wants him in when we are in trouble. He has been consistent in this regard for the whole tournament. Conversely, he recognizes that Iguodala is a consummate team player not worried about stats or ego, which allows him to give playing time to others when we are able. Having Durant on the floor most of the game allows him such luxuries.

In summary, and as always, I totally disagree.

EDIT: Sorry Hartford. I didn't see your post.

[HartfordWhalers]

Don't apologize to me, your was a great post.

And yeah, this was a game to be very high on the future of OKC.

[ZzAzZ]

When there is a game where Iggy gets love on the GB as being one of the better performers for team USA, it is nice to know we have you to remind us that he didn't put up enough stats.

In summary, and as always, I totally disagree.

Thank you both for brightening up my friday, wish I could somehow quote these last couple of posts all in one sig.

[DemandNotice598]

To 76ciology last post to me:

*easy friend...no need to get defensive. i just have my own opinion of you and stated it. here's you're post on Evan Turners height and length and my rebuttal. all from the 76ers Vs. Jazz Friday 10AM thread:*
76ciology wrote:

dayman wrote:"Kobe's not that athletic anymore, and he managed to score 27 ppg.

Will, determination, and skill usually will determine how good of a player you are. If he has the will to be the best then that will overcome most of his physical deficiencies."

-76ciology

"But I can assure you that Kobe's more athletic and longer than Turner. I think Kobe's still more athletic than 70 to 80% of the SGs out there. Length wise, Kobe has a pretty long wingspan.

Will, determination and skill gets you floating in the NBA. Athleticism and Size sets you apart from the average players and the stars/super stars."

-DemandNotice598
"wat, you want a 7 foot shooting guard or something?

Turner is 6'7", an excellent height for a shooting guard. jordon was 6'6". he'll be fine...ur acting like he's maxed out 5 summer leagues in and u can read his future. Jrue didnt look good in summer league last year....look at him this year. you and some people are overreacting, panicking, and just too into this summer league BS. John Salmons?? lmao...please."

*you questioned ET height, wingspan, athleticism, and ability to do it in the NBA(i'm not sure where ur getting all this ur a big Evan Turner supporter mess from). that Kobe was/is built for the NBA more so physically than ET. which is weird since ET is taller than Kobe by an inch.*

before those posts you even stated:
-76ciology
"I can't see him averaging more than 20 to 22ppg. He just doesn't have the elite size and the athleticism to be a LEGIT scorer in the league. I can see his ceiling, scoring wise, as the John Salmons of last season (a 20ppg scorer) but that's it. Why Salmons? Because both Salmons and Turner seems to lack that x-factor that separates them, physically and athletically, from their opponents. Both guys seem to rely 90% of their scoring on their skills alone."

*so yea, with all those contradictions and BS knowledge you pretend to have, you can see why i have gotten to a habit of overlooking your posts as garbage posts. you flip flop between ur so called beliefs just to try to win an argument. and most of the things you say are just things you pulled out your butt. instead of being rational and real with ur post you change them to fit the argument. in this thread you're a so-called ET supporter and low key Iggy basher. but in the summer league thread you were bashing Mr. Turner almost to the point of saying he'll be mediocre. i'm sure we'll disagree though.*

like i said. i havent posted on here much so i did the best i could with the quoting. i think i kind of separated who said what...hope its easy enough to sift through and understand for everyone.

This is what you posted..

as soon as he said Evan Turner is too short for a shooting guard i was done lol.

At what part of those posts that you posted did I say that ET was too short for a SG?

"I can't see him averaging more than 20 to 22ppg. He just doesn't have the elite size and the athleticism to be a LEGIT scorer in the league. I can see his ceiling, scoring wise, as the John Salmons of last season (a 20ppg scorer) but that's it.

What I was implying in those posts that I can't see Evan Turner being an elite scorers like Kobe because he lacks the elite length and athleticism that most elite scorers have. And I don't think that anyone would argue that ET wouldn't be an elite scorer like what I believe.


I also think that Kobe is longer than ET, due to his wingspan and not because of his height. Which is true because Kobe's wingspan is said to measured around 6'11".

"But I can assure you that Kobe's more athletic and longer than Turner.I think Kobe's still more athletic than 70 to 80% of the SGs out there. Length wise, Kobe has a pretty long wingspan.

I never, ever, said that ET was too short to play SG.

i'm not surprised by this, lol. u cant argue anything else so nitpick that i used the wrong wordage of what you said instead of saying exactly what you wrote from two months ago off the top of my head. i mean, i could do the same thing to you by you changing "elite size" to "elite length" but that would be petty. yah see what happens when people try to flip flop and change their stories to win a argument or discussion...misunderstandings.

for the record: Evan Turner's wingspan is 7 feet....Kobe's is 6'11". ET's wingspan is even lengthier than Michael Jordon's. he's longer and taller than both. so that shoots your ET doesnt have the elite length/size BS out the water anyway. so please don't focus on ET length to flip flop this time. focus on you attacking his athleticism again to try and prove your BS point you pulled out your bum. because the length one fell through. do you research anything or do you just guess and hope for the best?

[PhillyFan]

When there is a game where Iggy gets love on the GB as being one of the better performers for team USA, it is nice to know we have you to remind us that he didn't put up enough stats.

In summary, and as always, I totally disagree.

Thank you both for brightening up my friday, wish I could somehow quote these last couple of posts all in one sig.

the guy is probably frustrated in life and needed a target to take out his anger on, guess he just choosed the "highest" paid Sixer to pick on lol

personally, I would pick on Stefanski or Billy King before I even nitpick Iguodala's game.

[76ciology]

for the record: Evan Turner's wingspan is 7 feet....Kobe's is 6'11". ET's wingspan is even lengthier than Michael Jordon's. he's longer and taller than both. so that shoots your ET doesnt have the elite length/size BS out the water anyway. so please don't focus on ET length to flip flop this time. focus on you attacking his athleticism again to try and prove your BS point you pulled out your bum. because the length one fell through. do you research anything or do you just guess and hope for the best?

I stopped reading when you said that Evan Turner has a 7 feet wingspan and you spelled Jordan's name as Jordon.

You know what you can start researching with? Evan Turner's true wingspan and the correct spelling for Michael's surname. He's kinda famous, you know.

[PhillyFan]

http://blog.seattlepi.com/undraftedfree ... 207863.asp

to 76ciology's credit, Turner's wingspan is 6'8", which is the same as Brandon Roy.

However, please stop focusing on 1 thing to make your argument. Wingspan gives you an advantage, but does not limit/automatically affect your capability to score. Other things should be consider such as your offensive/defensive awareness, speed, shooting form/touch, etc.

PS: the correct spelling for Michael's name does not make/break the guy's argument.

[ZzAzZ]

Well I hope we don't have to have a big Evan Turner debate now after we just got through the Iguodala one. At least Iguodala is actually a part of Team USA.

[SJSF]

Its funny how so many guys on here think that 13 minutes made the game for them and not Durant. I can't wait to have the Sixers start the season and when there are problems with Iggy. The lovers of him will point the finger at other players. I say he is traded by midseason. Anyone want to take the bet? Also, Brand is the highest paid.

[DemandNotice598]

http://blog.seattlepi.com/undraftedfreeagent/archives/207863.asp

to 76ciology's credit, Turner's wingspan is 6'8", which is the same as Brandon Roy.

However, please stop focusing on 1 thing to make your argument. Wingspan gives you an advantage, but does not limit/automatically affect your capability to score. Other things should be consider such as your offensive/defensive awareness, speed, shooting form/touch, etc.

PS: the correct spelling for Michael's name does not make/break the guy's argument.

that is true...his wingspan is only 6'8". the first site i went to said 7 foot, oh well. i think my point still applies and at least makes sense to me on why i usually skip his posts.

[PhillyFan]

http://blog.seattlepi.com/undraftedfreeagent/archives/207863.asp

to 76ciology's credit, Turner's wingspan is 6'8", which is the same as Brandon Roy.

However, please stop focusing on 1 thing to make your argument. Wingspan gives you an advantage, but does not limit/automatically affect your capability to score. Other things should be consider such as your offensive/defensive awareness, speed, shooting form/touch, etc.

PS: the correct spelling for Michael's name does not make/break the guy's argument.

that is true...his wingspan is only 6'8". the first site i went to said 7 foot, oh well. i think my point still applies and at least makes sense to me on why i usually skip his posts.

focusing on 1 thing to make his argument was actually referring to 76ciology, not you.

one Dedicated gone does not seem to stop the endless argument on Iguodala, which makes this place less fun to be.

Until the season begins, there's really no answer to the argument. It will be up to the players to prove which side is right.

[HartfordWhalers]

Its funny how so many guys on here think that 13 minutes made the game for them and not Durant. I can't wait to have the Sixers start the season and when there are problems with Iggy. The lovers of him will point the finger at other players. I say he is traded by midseason. Anyone want to take the bet? Also, Brand is the highest paid.

I don't think anyone said Iggy's 13 minutes made the game and not Durant, unless you are referencing your own sarcastic comment. I do think you haven't said anything related to what actually happened in those thirteen minutes.

So, I will go ahead and just repost what I posted earlier, cause you really aren't adding anything new once again:

Iggy comes up big against Russia. He plays an amazing 13 minutes???? Wow, he carried the team tonight in their biggest game. He then gets benched and they play a 3 guard rotation for the remainder of the game. LOL

Insightful. I going on a limb and saying that you simply read the box score, and didn't bother to watch the game. And its crazy, I mean right, he barely even scored. What a loser!

Sure, sure, he was second in the team in assists, second in offense and total rebounds, and played very nice Defense when out there.

And sure he played that few minutes only because of two very early fouls, and the team fell behind in the second only to go on a run catching up when he came back in, but, coincidences happen.

When there is a game where Iggy gets love on the GB as being one of the better performers for team USA, it is nice to know we have you to remind us that he didn't put up enough stats.