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Post#1 » by SHO'NUFF » Wed Apr 2, 2008 4:12 am

Mock Drafts Updated April 1st

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While Miami taking QB Matt Ryan with the No. 1 pick cannot be ruled out completely, it does seem to be more of a long shot than a probability at this point. So, after months of sticking with Ryan at No. 1, I finally have shuffled the top of my mock draft.

In addition, a couple of weeks spent on the road visiting with NFL coaches and scouts at various pro days has provided some interesting perspectives on a few potential first-round curveballs. While trades are not included in these mock drafts, I do expect several to take place. The Patriots could kick things off at No. 7, where they are hoping a top talent like Ryan or DT Sedrick Ellis falls in order to generate greater interest.

Also, while I still have Ryan as the only quarterback in the first round, there's speculation that one or more teams might trade back into the bottom of the round to secure their favorite from the next-best trio of Chad Henne, Brian Brohm and Joe Flacco. Of the three, Henne seems to be moving up the draft boards the fastest. The more time coaches spend with the four-year starer from Michigan, the more they fall in love with his confidence and overall intangibles.

Keeping those things in mind, here's my best stab at how Round 1 will unfold followed by a brief projection for Round 2:

1. Miami Dolphins -- Jake Long, OT, Michigan
Record: 1-15 | Needs: CB, OT, WR, QB, G
Previous mock selection: Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
While I have DE Chris Long graded slightly higher, Jake Long makes the most sense here. I'm still a firm believer that Jake Long will be an upper-echelon starting left tackle in the NFL. With the addition of G Justin Smiley and current Miami OT Vernon Carey back at his natural position on the right side, the Dolphins would finally solidify their offensive line and give QB John Beck and RB Ronnie Brown far greater chances for success.

2. St. Louis Rams -- Chris Long, DE, Virginia
Record: 3-13 | Needs: DE, WR, C, G, OLB, OT
Previous mock selection: Same
There's a lot of buzz regarding Jake Long going to the Rams at No. 2, but that's assuming Chris Long is the Dolphins' choice with the top selection. In this scenario, the Rams would have a tough choice between Chris Long and DT Glenn Dorsey. Both players are worthy of the pick, but Long is a safer one for an organization that has fared far better drafting college defensive ends than it has tackles. Long is not a prototypical edge rusher, but he's a disruptive force with rare versatility and a motor that never quits.

3. Atlanta Falcons -- Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
Record: 4-12 | Needs: QB, DT, OT, G, TE
Previous mock selection: Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Ryan should be the Falcons' selection, and there's speculation that owner Arthur Blank agrees, for obvious reasons. Ryan is a franchise quarterback prospect with rare intangibles, which is something the Falcons desperately need. However, newly hired GM Tom Dimitroff brings with him the Patriots' mind set of building a foundation along the offensive and defensive lines via the draft, so if Ryan and Dorsey both are available, it won't be an easy choice.

4. Oakland Raiders -- Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
Record: 4-12 | Needs: DE, OL, DT, WR, SLB
Previous mock selection: Sedrick Ellis, DE, USC
While their financial sense and player evaluations certainly can be questioned, the Raiders have in fact addressed many needs during the offseason, which frees them to go in any number of directions with this pick. Word has it that owner Al Davis is infatuated with McFadden's home run speed. Shocking, right? Regardless of his reasoning, it's hard to argue against taking the draft's most talented prospect with the fourth overall pick. Getting McFadden signed and into camp, on the other hand, could be an interesting process.

5. Kansas City Chiefs -- Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Record: 4-12 | Needs: OT, CB, G, WR, QB, RB
Previous mock selection: Jake Long, OT, Michigan
Jake Long has to be priority No. 1 for the Chiefs, but don't expect them to reach for a different offensive tackle with this pick if he is off the board. Dorsey is the type of impact defensive tackle the franchise has been missing for years. If Kansas City goes with Dorsey here, it can select an offensive tackle the caliber of USC's Sam Baker early in Round 2.

6. New York Jets -- Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State
Record: 4-12 | Needs: DE, CB, WR, FS, ILB, RB
Projected pick: Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
Arguments can be made for and against Gholston. After studying him on film, I think he is a bit of an overrated player who disappears from games far too often. However, recent workout times have sent his draft stock soaring, and I hear from reliable sources that the organization is infatuated with him.

7. N.E. Patriots (from 5-11 S.F.) -- Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
Record: 16-0 | Needs: ILB, CB, OLB, ROT, G, S
Previous mock selection: Vernon Gholston, OLB/DE, Ohio State
I am convinced the Patriots will trade out of this spot. For starters, coach Bill Belichick and GM Scott Pioli have made 25 draft-weekend trades since taking over eight years ago. Secondly, the team is in desperate need of secondary help, but there isn't a defensive back in this class worth selecting in the top 10. McKelvin is the most likely fit at corner, but only if the team moves down at least a few spots. And New England has been known to take value over need in the past, so DT Sedrick Ellis is a possibility here, too.

8. Baltimore Ravens -- Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State
Record: 5-11 | Needs: QB, CB, LOT, OLB, DE, ILB
Previous mock selection: Same
The Ravens are one of the wild-card teams in the top 10. They, too, are a team that likes to take the best available talent even if he doesn't fit a need, so if DT Sedrick Ellis falls this far, he is a definite possibility. I have Clady graded higher than any corner in this class, though, and he possesses the combo of size and feet to potentially take over for perennial Pro Bowler Jonathan Ogden.

9. Cincinnati Bengals -- Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
Record: 7-9 | Needs: DT, LB, TE, C, S, DE
Previous mock selection: Keith Rivers, OLB, USC
The team is starving for a playmaking defensive tackle, and Ellis, who notched 58 tackles and 8.5 sacks as a senior, is one of only two elite prospects at the position. While it's highly unlikely he will fall to the ninth pick, I do hear the Bengals and Saints are among a handful of teams considering trading up for Ellis and/or DT Glenn Dorsey, depending on how the top of the board unfolds.

10. New Orleans Saints -- Keith Rivers, OLB, USC
Record: 6-9 | Needs: CB, DT, ROT, S, TE, LB, WR
Previous mock selection: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St.
If the Saints don't trade up for a defensive tackle (Sedrick Ellis or Glenn Dorsey), they are likely to bypass their need at cornerback to select the draft's top linebacker prospect, Rivers.

11. Buffalo Bills -- Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
Record: 7-9 | Needs: WR, TE, CB, DE, FS, OT, OG
Previous mock selection: Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
This might be a bit of a reach for Kelly, but I am hearing the Bills will take him this high as long as he checks out physically during his on-campus workout April 9. Kelly is the type of big receiver the Bills need to add to their roster as a complement to Lee Evans. He is unusually fluid for a bigger wideout, and he might have the strongest hands of any player in the 2008 draft. However, if the team is not convinced of Kelly's long-term durability, it likely will use this selection on a cornerback, such as Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.

12. Denver Broncos -- Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
Record: 7-9 | Needs: DT, OT, WR, MLB, OL, CB/RS
Previous mock selection: Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
The Broncos ranked 28th in points allowed and 30th versus the run last year, which explains the free-agent additions of SLB Boss Bailey, S Marquand Manuel and S Marlon McCree. Finding an upgrade at defensive tackle is the next priority. Unfortunately for Denver, Glenn Dorsey and Sedrick Ellis are off the board, and it's too early to take the next best option, Kentwan Balmer. At least the team can use the pick to solidify its offensive line with Otah. Then it can target a DT like Auburn's Pat Sims in Round 2.

13. Carolina Panthers -- Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
Record: 7-9 | Needs: ROT, FS, TE, RB, DE
Previous mock selection: Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
Solidifying the offensive line with OT Chris Williams is a possibility. However, Harvey is flying up teams' draft boards following a superb on-campus workout, and the Panthers need a young insurance policy at the position. Carolina signed free agent Tyler Brayton, but Julius Peppers, who is entering the final year of his contract, is coming off his worst season as a pro, and aging veteran Mike Rucker is contemplating retirement.

14. Chicago Bears -- Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
Record: 7-9 | Needs: OT, QB, RB, WR, G
Previous mock selection: Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois
The Bears have to consider Mendenhall, who would provide a level of toughness their ground game lacked with Cedric Benson as the primary ball carrier in 2007. However, upgrading the offensive line is an even greater priority. If they can land Williams, one of the top tackles, with pick No. 14, the Bears can shift their focus to finding a good running back value in the later rounds. Oregon's Jonathan Stewart and Tulane's Matt Forte are examples of the type of talent the team will find in the second and third rounds, respectively.

15. Detroit Lions -- Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois
Record: 7-9 | Needs: RB, DE, OT, LB, DT
Projected pick: Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
With Harvey and the top four offensive tackles off the board, it will be far easier for the Lions to pull the trigger on the draft's second-rated running back. The Lions want to become more physical on the offensives side of the ball, and Mendenhall has the ideal blend of size, power and burst to help achieve that initiative -- certainly more so than current RBs Tatum Bell and Brian Calhoun.

16. Arizona Cardinals -- Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Tennessee St.
Record: 8-8 | Needs: CB, FS, RB, LOT, WR, DB
Previous mock selection: Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas
The team wants to land a complement to current starting RB Edgerrin James early in this year's draft. However, turf-toe surgery has knocked Jonathan Stewart to at least the bottom of this round, and it's too early to reach for Felix Jones. The good news is that the 2008 running back crop is deep, so the smart play is to grab one of the premier defensive backs before that well dries up. Rodgers-Cromartie has been one of the fastest rising prospects during the postseason, and the Cardinals will be thrilled if he's available at pick No. 18. The small-school product stood up to the big boys at the Senior Bowl and then wowed scouts a few weeks later with one of the smoothest workouts of any DB at the combine.

17. Minnesota Vikings -- Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
Record: 8-8 | Needs: DE, QB, OT, CB, WR
Previous mock selection: Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson
The team has bigger needs, but don't expect it to reach for a slipping player like Merling. While I can't speak for the Vikings and their board, Jenkins is the best player available in my opinion, and his services certainly can be put to use in their defensive secondary. Jenkins possesses the speed and athleticism to frequently hold up on an island in coverage. He could immediately add depth as a nickel corner behind Antoine Winfield and Cedric Griffin before eventually pushing for a starting job a year or two down the line.

18. Houston Texans -- Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas
Record: 8-8 | Needs: CB, LOT, RB, DE, S, G, C
Previous mock selection: Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon
Houston has spent its past five first-round picks on the defensive side of the ball, and the team easily could make it six in a row by drafting a cornerback like Talib. While his feet and decision-making skills still need polishing, he is a versatile playmaker with outstanding size and speed for the position.

19. Philadelphia Eagles -- Branden Albert, G, Virginia
Record: 8-8 | Needs: WR, S, LB, OT, G, DE
Previous mock selection: Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
The Eagles have steered clear of first-round receivers since the Freddie "Millions" Mitchell fiasco, and there isn't one worth drafting here if Kelly is off the board. Coach Andy Reid is known for drafting linemen in the first round, and his tackles are aging. Albert is massive, with good feet and a finisher's mentality, and while most of his experience is at guard, he has the frame to try out tackle in the NFL, should the Eagles so choose. That will depend in part, though, on where Shawn Andrews lands.

20. T.B. Buccaneers -- Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan State
Record: 9-7 | Needs: WR, LOT, QB, CB, DT, RS
Previous mock selection: DeSean Jackson, WR, California
Coach John Gruden is looking for another pass-catching weapon in his version of the West Coast offense, and Thomas' run-after-catch skills make him an ideal match. Thomas also can help upgrade the Bucs' spotty return game.

21. Washington Redskins -- Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson
Record: 9-7 | Needs: WR, S, DE, OT, CB, G, C
Previous mock selection: Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
The Redskins' top priority is to add a big, playmaking receiver. But with Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas off the board, expect them to address that need later in the draft. In the meantime, they could either take a chance on Merling, who is dropping due to a recently discovered sports hernia, or fill the void at safety by taking the only potential first-rounder this class has to offer, Kenny Phillips. When healthy, Merling has an outstanding combination of size, quickness and power, which would make him a good fit in a rotation with veteran Phillip Daniels at left end.

22. Dallas Cowboys (from 10-6 CLE) -- DeSean Jackson, WR, California
Record: 13-3 | Needs: WR, CB, RB, G, C, QB, NT
Previous mock selection: Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
Sure, Jackson has limitations at 5-foot-10 and 169 pounds. But he's the fastest and most dangerous open-field weapon this class has to offer. In addition to his big-play potential in the return game, Jackson could become a nice complementary weapon for QB Tony Romo opposite Terrell Owens.

23. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
Record: 10-6 | Needs: DE, OT, WR, G, FS
Previous mock selection: Branden Albert, G, Virginia
The Steelers are expected to invest multiple draft picks in offensive linemen. Cherilus is a right tackle prospect who struggled a bit on the left side as a senior, which is something the Steelers have to consider. Regardless, he has good feet for his size, and he's experienced enough to start at one of the tackle spots as a rookie.

24. Tennessee Titans -- Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina
Record: 10-6 | Needs: WR, DE, DT, CB, OLB
Previous mock selection: Same
QB Vince Young still needs lots of polishing as a passer. In all fairness, though, he needs at least one perimeter pass-catching weapon -- and no, Justin McCareins does not count. The last time Tennessee drafted a receiver in the first two rounds, however, was in 2003 (Tyrone Calico, Round 2), and the team hasn't spent a first-round selection on a wideout since Kevin Dyson in 1998. That's why the top available defensive lineman is the best bet.

25. Seattle Seahawks -- Dustin Keller, TE, Purdue
Record: 10-6 | Needs: TE, DT, WR, OL, RB
Previous mock selection: Same
Keller and USC's Fred Davis are neck and neck atop the tight end board. Davis is a bigger, more complete prospect with very good overall athleticism, but Keller takes it to another level in terms of overall explosiveness. Keller will never be a good in-line blocker, but very few H-backs display his potential to create mismatches in the passing game. Seattle is looking for a playmaker at that position, so don't be surprised if Keller sneaks off the board late in Round 1.

26. Jacksonville Jaguars -- Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Record: 11-5 | Needs: DE, DT, SS, OT, CB, WR
Previous mock selection: Same
The Jaguars hope they addressed their wide receiver issues in free agency with the additions of Jerry Porter and Troy Williamson, which leaves the defensive line as the top draft priority. Campbell still is very raw, but his combination of size and athletic ability will be tough to pass on late in the first round.

27. San Diego Chargers -- Dan Connor, ILB, Penn State
Record: 11-5 | Needs: ROT, S, RB, NT, CB
Previous mock selection: Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech
Offensive tackle is the Chargers' biggest need, but there isn't one of value available in this scenario. San Diego is one of the few teams with the luxury to draft the best available athlete, and since there isn't a good tackle value still on the board, Connor becomes a very attractive option. He can fit well at one of the inside linebacker spots in the Chargers' 3-4 scheme and should eventually become an upgrade over current starter Stephen Cooper, who led the team in tackles in 2007 but has physical limitations.

28. Dallas Cowboys -- Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas
Record: 13-3 | Needs: WR, CB, RB, G, C, QB, NT
Previous mock selection: Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan State
It doesn't sound like owner Jerry Jones will pursue a deal to move up for Darren McFadden, which is wise. However, he could settle for Arkansas' other first-round running back prospect, Jones, whose breakaway speed (along with his versatility as a receiver and return specialist) makes him a good complement to Marion Barber, a more physical runner.

29. San Francisco 49ers (from 13-3 IND) -- Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
Record: 5-11 | Needs: ROT, OLB, WR, OL, QB, CB
Previous mock selection: Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
Wide receiver is not as much of a need with Isaac Bruce and Bryant Johnson both on the roster, but there simply isn't a right tackle worth reaching for at this point. The team recently cut veteran WR Darrell Jackson, and it still needs weapons to help stretch the field. Sweed could emerge as a steal late in the first round if his wrist fully heals as expected.

30. Green Bay Packers -- Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech
Record: 13-3 | Needs: CB, S, OT, TE, QB
Previous mock selection: Kenny Phillips, S. Miami
The Packers' biggest need is at cornerback, which is why they would choose Flowers over Phillips. Flowers is a much better corner than his 40 time indicates, and he should emerge as a solid starter in a couple of years. He's savvy and tough enough to contribute right away as a sub-package DB.

31. New England Patriots -- Pick forfeited
Record: 16-0 | Needs: ILB, CB, OLB, OL depth
Previous mock selection: Same
The Patriots lost this pick as part of the penalty handed down for illegally taping Jets coaches from the sideline in Week 1.

32. New York Giants -- Jerod Mayo, OLB, Tennessee
Record: 10-6 | Needs: S, OLB, CB, WR, G, T, DT
Previous mock selection: Same
The Giants are in need of a legitimate upgrade at linebacker, and Mayo possesses just the type of athleticism and versatility to find a contributing niche within this unit.

Round 2
Team Player Position School
33. Miami Dolphins Chad Henne QB Michigan
34. St. Louis Rams Mario Manningham WR Michigan
35. Atlanta Falcons (From Oakland) Pat Sims DT Auburn
36. Kansas City Chiefs Sam Baker OT USC
37. N.Y. Jets Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon
38. Atlanta Falcons Antoine Cason CB Arizona
39. Baltimore Ravens Joe Flacco QB Delaware
40. San Francisco 49ers Anthony Collins OT Kansas
41. New Orleans Saints Kenny Phillips S Miami (Fla.)
42. Buffalo Bills Tracy Porter CB Indiana
43. Denver Broncos James Hardy WR Indiana
44. Carolina Panthers Brian Brohm QB Louisville
45. Chicago Bears Ray Rice RB Rutgers
46. Detroit Lions Cliff Avril DE Purdue
47. Cincinnati Bengals Fred Davis TE USC
48. Minnesota Vikings Lawrence Jackson DE USC
49. Atlanta Falcons (From Houston) Chilo Rachal G USC
50. Philadelphia Eagles Early Doucet WR LSU
51. Arizona Cardinals Jamaal Charles RB Texas
52. Washington Redskins Jordy Nelson WR Kansas State
53. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Justin King CB Penn State
54. Pittsburgh Steelers Marcus Harrison DT Arkansas
55. Tennessee Titans Andre Caldwell WR Florida
56. Seattle Seahawks Trevor Laws DT Notre Dame
57. Green Bay Packers (From Cleveland) Duane Brown OT Virginia Tech
58. Miami Dolphins (From San Diego) Reggie Smith CB Oklahoma
59. Jacksonville Jaguars Patrick Lee CB Auburn
60. Indianapolis Colts Quentin Groves DE Auburn
61. Green Bay Packers John Carlson TE Notre Dame
62. Dallas Cowboys Mike Pollak C Arizona State
63. New England Patriots Curtis Lofton ILB Oklahoma
64. N.Y. Giants Tyrell Johnson S Arkansas State



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For the third time in as many mock drafts, I'm projecting someone new to go No. 1 overall. My initial mock draft had LSU DT Glenn Dorsey going first, then I had Virginia DE Chris Long going No. 1.

Now it's Michigan OT Jake Long's turn to reside atop the draft board.

But whether it's Dorsey, Chris Long or Jake Long, one thing's for certain: Miami executive vice president of football operations Bill Parcells wants to take a lineman with the No. 1 overall pick. Also, the one word you can expect to hear a lot leading up to the draft is sign-ability. All indications are Parcells will draft the player who he can sign and get into camp.


Two other notable changes from my last mock draft deal with the emergence of Virginia offensive lineman Branden Albert and Boston College QB Matt Ryan.

Albert was a guard at Virginia, but he did play two games at left tackle. His individual workouts have been phenomenal and Albert has convinced teams he can play left tackle in the NFL. I have him going No. 5 to the Chiefs, and they aren't going to draft him that high to play guard.

As for Ryan, if Miami, Atlanta and Kansas City all pass on this year's No. 1 quarterback prospect, the Baltimore Ravens would love to see him on the board when it's their turn to pick. One thing to watch on draft day: I'm hearing if the Falcons pass on Ryan, they might try and trade back into the first round (Atlanta owns two second-round picks) in an attempt to get Delaware QB Joe Flacco.

The three new names appearing on my mock draft are: Purdue TE Dustin Keller; USC DE Lawrence Jackson; and Arkansas St. safety Tyrell Johnson. Oklahoma WR Malcolm Kelly and Miami's Calais Campbell and Kenny Phillips dropped out of the first round.

My final mock draft will appear on the eve of the NFL draft, April 25.

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Kiper's First-Round Projection
No. Team Player School
1 Miami Dolphins Jake Long, OT Michigan
2 St. Louis Rams Chris Long, DE Virginia
3 Atlanta Falcons Glenn Dorsey, DT LSU
4 Oakland Raiders *Darren McFadden, RB Arkansas
5 Kansas City Chiefs *Branden Albert, OT/G Virginia
6 New York Jets *Vernon Gholston, DE Ohio St.
7 New England Patriots (from SF) *Aqib Talib, CB Kansas
8 Baltimore Ravens Matt Ryan, QB Boston College
9 Cincinnati Bengals Sedrick Ellis, DT USC
10 New Orleans Saints Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB Tennessee St.
11 Buffalo Bills *Derrick Harvey, DE Florida
12 Denver Broncos Keith Rivers, LB USC
13 Carolina Panthers *Ryan Clady, OT Boise St.
14 Chicago Bears Chris Williams, OT Vanderbilt
15 Detroit Lions *Rashard Mendenhall, RB Illinois
16 Arizona Cardinals Leodis McKelvin, CB Troy
17 Minnesota Vikings *Phillip Merling, DE Clemson
18 Houston Texans *Jonathan Stewart, RB Oregon
19 Philadelphia Eagles Jeff Otah, OT Pittsburgh
20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mike Jenkins, CB South Florida
21 Washington Redskins *Devin Thomas, WR Michigan St.
22 Dallas Cowboys (from CLE) *Felix Jones, RB Arkansas
23 Pittsburgh Steelers Kentwan Balmer, DT North Carolina
24 Tennessee Titans *DeSean Jackson, WR California
25 Seattle Seahawks Dustin Keller, TE Purdue
26 Jacksonville Jaguars Lawrence Jackson, DE USC
27 San Diego Chargers Gosder Cherilus, OT Boston College
28 Dallas Cowboys *Justin King, CB Penn St.
29 San Francisco 49ers (from IND) *Jerod Mayo, LB Tennessee
30 Green Bay Packers *Brandon Flowers, CB Virginia Tech
31 New England Patriots Forfeited pick
32 New York Giants Tyrell Johnson, S Arkansas St.
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Post#2 » by HeavyP » Wed Apr 2, 2008 8:11 am

I don't want Keller for Seattle, although I do like Laws in the 2nd round. All the picks seem reasonable except Albert at #5 to the chiefs in Kiper's.
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Post#3 » by CJ_18 » Wed Apr 2, 2008 7:21 pm

Hate Dan Connor in the 1st draft, LOVE Gosder Cherilous in the 2nd.
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Post#4 » by A.J. » Wed Apr 2, 2008 8:39 pm

i like mcshay better :D
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Post#5 » by studcrackers » Wed Apr 2, 2008 9:06 pm

as a cowboys fan not a fan really of either, if we got desean jackson in the 1st i think id throw up, same goes for if we drafted justin king, its been awhile since ive seen him in a 1st round mock.

i think felix would be a decent pick, but i almost think we'd be better off going WR CB (or OL) in the 1st round then adress RB in the 2nd
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Post#6 » by S0yb3anB0y » Wed Apr 2, 2008 9:29 pm

Sorry, Seattle Seahawks will snatch Jonathan Stewart before he can fall out of the first round.
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Post#7 » by Next Coming » Thu Apr 3, 2008 12:30 am

Tyrell Johnson in the 1st? :o
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Post#8 » by A.J. » Thu Apr 3, 2008 12:50 am

I dont think Reggie Smith falls out of round 1
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Post#9 » by hermes » Wed Apr 9, 2008 1:36 pm

i'll side with mcshay, at least on the vikes picks
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Post#10 » by Icness » Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:12 pm

Next Coming wrote:Tyrell Johnson in the 1st? :o


That one caught my eye too. I've never seen one play of the guy on film, but I've talked to two scouts who both independently compared him to a smaller Roy Williams--great hitter, plays bigger than his size (he's a hair under 6' and 200), often makes the highlight play, real iffy in coverage and not as fast or as awesome as he thinks he is.

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Post#11 » by el loco » Wed Apr 9, 2008 4:11 pm

I know the Steelers need help on the Offensive Line, but they also have a big question mark at RB. Willie Parker broke his leg late last season, so he might have lost a step. A big receiver would also be a nice addition, so I am not sold on all of these Mock Drafts that continually have an offensive lineman selected as the first pick. It wouldn't surprise me if it happens, but I could see them taking another position. Plus, we don't know if the coach is going to switch the defensive scheme or not. If he does, the Steelers might go with a Defensive Lineman. I think it all depends on who slips to them at 23.
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Post#12 » by Icness » Wed Apr 9, 2008 6:09 pm

el loco wrote:I know the Steelers need help on the Offensive Line, but they also have a big question mark at RB. Willie Parker broke his leg late last season, so he might have lost a step. A big receiver would also be a nice addition, so I am not sold on all of these Mock Drafts that continually have an offensive lineman selected as the first pick. It wouldn't surprise me if it happens, but I could see them taking another position. Plus, we don't know if the coach is going to switch the defensive scheme or not. If he does, the Steelers might go with a Defensive Lineman. I think it all depends on who slips to them at 23.


They signed Mewelde Moore, which probably doesn't impress like a 1st rounder but IMO is a real solid move. Mike Tomlin personally lobbied for the Steelers to sign him.
I still believe Kevin Jones will wind up in PIT, though he has injury issues of his own. And they are the type of team that would love to get Mike Hart or Xavier Omon in the 4ht-5th round range. They do indeed want another 5-technique DE and most people believe they'll address that early on.
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Post#13 » by catalyst » Wed Apr 9, 2008 6:50 pm

The cowboys are not going to take desean jackson with either first.
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Post#14 » by Bulltalk » Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:16 pm

I would be surprised, almost shocked if the Seahawks make a TE their #1 pick. Why the hell would they? There's not that much difference between the top 3 or so TE's in the draft, and there will surely be one of those available in the 2nd round.

Hawks will go for Stewart if he's available, or a top DE or OL if he's not.
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They signed Mewelde Moore, which probably doesn't impress like a 1st rounder but IMO is a real solid move. Mike Tomlin personally lobbied for the Steelers to sign him.
I still believe Kevin Jones will wind up in PIT, though he has injury issues of his own. And they are the type of team that would love to get Mike Hart or Xavier Omon in the 4ht-5th round range. They do indeed want another 5-technique DE and most people believe they'll address that early on.



Kevin Jones from the Lions? He wouldn't be a bad insurance Policy along with Moore in the event that Willie isn't his former self.

I forgot about us signing Moore. He hasn't done much of anything the last two seasons as far as running the ball goes, but he does have some decent hands catching the ball. I also notice that we signed Justin Hartwig a verteran center and resigned Warren who is a long snapper, so the center spot should pretty much be set. Big Ben has been lobbying for a big receiver, but the steelers FO usually doesn't listen to players wants/ideas. I also see where McFarland was picked up, he is a DT who was recently released by the colts after failing a physical, he would be a back up at best, so it is looking more and more like we will go with either an Offensive Lineman or a big target for Big Ben.
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The seventh version of Scouts Inc.'s mock draft is a bit different than its predecessors. Rather than simply projecting a pick and how he fits with a particular team, we're examining scenarios that could confront each team and how those circumstances would impact their thinking.

For instance, what happens to the rest of the top five if the Dolphins can get an agreement in place with OT Jake Long? How would things snowball if DE Chris Long ends up in Oakland? We're still making projected picks, but this time we're taking a closer look at how the effect of those picks would cascade down the first round.

Things are still fluid but this is our best take on how Round 1 would play out if the draft were held today:

1. Miami Dolphins -- Jake Long, OT, Michigan
Record: 1-15 | Needs: OT, CB, WR, QB, G
Scenario 1: The Dolphins would like to trade down for multiple picks, but finding a trade partner is highly unlikely at this point.
Scenario 2: Select Long, with the priority on having a deal in place prior to draft day.
Scenario 3: DE/OLB Vernon Gholston and DT Glenn Dorsey are also in the picture, while DE Chris Long and QB Matt Ryan do not appear to be on the short list.

2. St. Louis Rams -- Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
Record: 3-13 | Needs: DE, DT, WR, C, OLB, OT
Scenario 1: If Jake Long is the first overall pick, the team will face a tough decision between Dorsey and Chris Long.
Scenario 2: Jake Long is a possibility if he's available, but with perennial Pro Bowl OT Orlando Pace returning to health opposite former first-round right tackle Alex Barron, it makes more sense to address the defensive line.

3. Atlanta Falcons -- Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
Record: 4-12 | Needs: QB, DT, OT, G, TE
Scenario 1: Expect Dorsey to be the pick if he's still on the board.
Scenario 2: If Dorsey is gone, Ryan is the no-brainer selection. And for the record, I think Ryan is the right choice no matter what.
Scenario 3: In the unlikely possibility that Ryan and Dorsey are the first two picks, Jake Long would be the Falcons' selection.

4. Oakland Raiders -- Chris Long, DE, Virginia
Record: 4-12 | Needs: DE/DT, OT/G, SLB, WR, RB
Scenario 1: The Raiders' dream scenario -- the son of Hall of Famer Howie Long slipping to the fourth pick -- is definitely likely.
Scenario 2: If Chris Long is gone, then RB Darren McFadden becomes the pick. Owner Al Davis is in love with McFadden's speed and envisions a young, explosive backfield that features McFadden and last year's No. 1 overall pick, QB JaMarcus Russell.
Scenario 3: If Long and McFadden are off the board, the Raiders would look to bolster the defensive front with the top available prospect from the group of Dorsey, Gholston and DT Sedrick Ellis.

5. Kansas City Chiefs -- Branden Albert, OT/G, Virginia
Record: 4-12 | Needs: OT, CB, DT, G, C, WR, QB
Scenario 1: If Jake Long somehow falls this far, he's the pick.
Scenario 2: Trade back and acquire more picks to better address a slew of needs.
Scenario 3: As much as it pains me to admit it, Mel Kiper's info on this pick seems to be accurate. It feels like a reach to me, but the Chiefs evidently think enough of Albert to take him if they are stuck here.
Scenario 4: The Chiefs could also consider Ryan, Dorsey or Ellis.

6. New York Jets -- Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
Record: 4-12 | Needs: DE, CB, WR, FS, ILB, RB
Scenario 1: Though running back isn't a top need, McFadden is the versatile and explosive weapon the Jets' offense has been missing for years.
Scenario 2: If McFadden is off the board, Gholston is the pick. The Jets could use his pass rushing ability to take some pressure off OLB Calvin Pace, who came over in free agency.
Scenario 3: If both McFadden and Gholston are off the board, the Jets will scramble to try to find a trade partner.

7. N.E. Patriots (from 5-11 S.F.) -- Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
Record: 16-0 | Needs: ILB, OLB, CB, ROT, TE
Scenario 1: The Patriots will try to trade to out of this pick because they're unlikely to get good value at their positions of need. With that in mind, they are hoping Ellis and/or Ryan slip this far in order to drive up the value of the pick.
Scenario 2: New England could upgrade over Nick Kaczur at right tackle by selecting Albert if he's available. Albert is skyrocketing up draft boards and is talented enough to push for immediate playing time.
Scenario 3: Don't be surprised if the Patriots ignore need and take Ellis if he's still available. He would represent the best value.
Scenario 4: Gholston is the final option, but I feel he is overrated at this point and the Patriots rarely reach.

8. Baltimore Ravens -- Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, Ohio State
Record: 5-11 | Needs: CB, QB, LOT, OLB, DE, ILB
Scenario 1: The ideal situation is Ryan slipping and allowing the Ravens to address their quarterback woes.
Scenario 2: Keep an eye on Ellis. The team is reportedly very high on him and he would be a great value even though he doesn't fill a pressing need.
Scenario 3: If Ryan and Ellis are both gone, the Ravens will shop this pick aggressively.
Scenario 4: If they can't get one of their top two players and are unable to trade out, the Ravens would then look at Gholston, Albert and CB Leodis McKelvin, in that order.

9. Cincinnati Bengals -- Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State
Record: 7-9 | Needs: NT, DE, LB, WR, C
Scenario 1: If Ellis is on the board at this point, he is surely the pick. In fact, Cincinnati reportedly likes him so much that it could move up a spot or two to get him.
Scenario 2: If Ellis isn't available, the Bengals will look to trade back because there would not be a player on the board representing great value at their positions of need.
Scenario 3: If Cincinnati is stuck here with Ellis off the board, the possibilities include Clady, OLB Keith Rivers and DE Derrick Harvey.

10. New Orleans Saints -- Keith Rivers, OLB, USC
Record: 6-9 | Needs: CB, DT, LB, TE, ROT, S
Scenario 1: The Saints would love to get Ellis, so there's a strong possibility they will join the Bengals in trying to move up.
Scenario 2: If a trade doesn't happen, Rivers would fill a need and offer too good a value to pass up.
Scenario 3: While taking any corner at this point is a reach, the Saints are in desperate need of help at the position, so McKelvin, South Florida's Mike Jenkins, and Tennessee State's Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie are also possibilities.

11. Buffalo Bills -- Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan State
Record: 7-9 | Needs: WR, TE, CB, DE, FS
Scenario 1: Wide receiver is the top need, and the word on the street is the Bills will reach for Thomas if they can't make a deal to trade back a few spots.
Scenario 2: Cornerback is a possibility, and McKelvin and Jenkins seem like the best fits if the Bills go that route.
Scenario 3: While it doesn't seem like a pressing need, don't be surprised if the Bills end up pulling the trigger on Harvey. With Anthony Hargrove suspended for the 2008 season and Al Wallace expected to depart through free agency, Buffalo needs help at end.

12. Denver Broncos -- Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
Record: 7-9 | Needs: OT, WR, DT, MLB, S
Scenario 1: Denver is in need of a defensive tackle after finishing 30th against the run last year, and with a substantial dropoff in talent after Ellis and Dorsey, the Broncos are yet another team that could look trade up.
Scenario 2: If the Broncos are unable to get Dorsey or Ellis, they should look to address the offensive tackle position. While Pittsburgh's Jeff Otah ranks slightly higher than Williams, Williams makes more sense here because he moves his feet better than Otah and is a better fit for Denver's zone blocking scheme.
Scenario 3: RB Rashard Mendenhall and LB Jerod Mayo are darkhorse picks.

13. Carolina Panthers -- Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
Record: 7-9 | Needs: ROT, FS, DE, RB, TE
Scenario 1: Harvey is flying up draft boards following a superb on-campus workout and the Panthers need a young insurance policy at the position. Carolina signed free agent Tyler Brayton but Julius Peppers, who is entering the final year of his contract, is coming off his worst season as a pro and aging veteran Mike Rucker is contemplating retirement.
Scenario 2: Right tackle is also a pressing need for the Panthers, so Otah is a possibility as well.
Scenario 3: Carolina made DeShaun Foster a cap casualty and he has since signed with San Francisco, leaving DeAngelo Williams and free-agent signing LaBrandon Toefield to compete for the starting job at this point. Considering Williams has averaged 9.1 carries per game over his first two seasons and Toefield has appeared in just six games over the past two years, Mendenhall would make some sense.

14. Chicago Bears -- Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
Record: 7-9 | Needs: OT, QB, RB, WR, G
Scenario 1: With both starters north of 30 and a glaring lack of depth behind them, Chicago needs help at offensive tackle and Otah would be a good fit for the scheme. Otah is big, strong and quick enough to quickly develop into an excellent drive-blocker.
Scenario 2: If Mendenhall is available, the Bears will have to consider taking him because the power back would be a great fit for their scheme. And if he slips to them and none of the top five offensive linemen are still on the board, Mendenhall becomes the obvious choice.
Scenario 3: Louisville QB Brian Brohm is another possibility but would be a reach here, so it's likely Chicago will wait to address that position.

15. Detroit Lions -- Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois
Record: 7-9 | Needs: RB, DE, OT, LB, DT
Scenario 1: Kalimba Edwards never lived up to expectations after signing a lucrative contract in 2006 and the Lions made him a cap casualty this offseason, so they are in the market for an end who can provide some pressure off the edge. Harvey doesn't have elite top-end speed but he's quick and athletic for his size and has the potential to develop into a productive edge-rusher.
Scenario 2: If Harvey is off the board, Mendenhall becomes the best choice. He would give Detroit the physical runner it currently lacks.
Scenario 3: Offensive tackle is a possibility should any of the top five prospects fall this far.
Scenario 4: Mayo is a consideration as well, as the Lions have need at linebacker.

16. Arizona Cardinals -- Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
Record: 8-8 | Needs: CB, FS, RB, LOT, WR, S
Scenario 1: Arizona needs to bolster its defensive backfield and the good news for the Cardinals is that they can take the best available safety or corner because Antrel Rolle can line up at either position. Should McKelvin be off the board, Rodgers-Cromartie would be their guy as he has the versatility to move to safety should he struggle early on at corner.
Scenario 2: Jenkins has that same versatility and we rank him just below Rodgers-Cromartie, so he is also a candidate.
Scenario 3: The Cardinals are looking for a back who can complement RB Edgerrin James, and because Arkansas' Felix Jones would be a reach and Oregon's Jonathan Stewart is coming off toe surgery, there is an outside chance Arizona would trade up in an effort to get Mendenhall.

17. Minnesota Vikings -- Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tenn. St.
Record: 8-8 | Needs: DE, QB, OT, CB, WR
Scenario 1: The ideal situation is for Harvey to fall this far and fill Minnesota's biggest need.
Scenario 2: If Harvey isn't available, Rodgers-Cromartie makes sense because the Vikings could stand to add another corner. Plus, he would be a good value here.
Scenario 3: Minnesota takes the best available athlete.

18. Houston Texans -- Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
Record: 8-8 | Needs: CB, LOT, DE, G, C, S
Scenario 1: According to this scenario, there will be a run on corners in the middle of the first round, and Houston would love to see one of the top three fall into its lap. Jenkins has the tools to develop into a No. 1 corner and fill the Texans' most pressing need.
Scenario 2: If the top four corners are gone, Houston should look to trade out.
Scenario 3: If the Texans don't get a corner and can't trade out, RBs Jones and Stewart would be options.

19. Philadelphia Eagles -- Jerod Mayo, OLB, Tennessee
Record: 8-8 | Needs: S, WR, LB, OT, G, DE
Scenario 1: Philadelphia puts a high premium on offensive linemen in the early rounds, so if any of the offensive linemen listed above slip, the Eagles will make that move.
Scenario 2: Omar Gaither is expected to move outside after the departure of Takeo Spikes, leaving a void on the inside. Mayo is capable of filling that need and giving Philadelphia an insurance policy. Plus, he's is versatile enough to move outside should Gaither struggle there.
Scenario 3: The Eagles haven't drafted a receiver in the first round since taking Freddie Mitchell in 2001, but Thomas is an intriguing possibility if available because he has the tools to develop into a No. 1 wideout.
Scenario 4: Miami S Kenny Phillips is admittedly a reach, but there's a chance the Eagles could take him here because they need help at safety and Phillips is the clear No. 1 in a weak safety class.

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas
Record: 9-7 | Needs: WR, LOT, QB, CB, DT
Scenario 1: WR Joey Galloway continues to produce but is 36 years old, and on the other side the 32-year-old Ike Hilliard has already lost a step. Making matters worse, Michael Clayton has struggled since his outstanding rookie season in 2004, so Tampa Bay needs an infusion of youth and talent at receiver. Thomas, who has a rare blend of size and speed, has steadily risen up draft boards over the last year and has experience in a West Coast scheme, making him the right choice here.
Scenario 2: If Thomas is gone, as is the case in this scenario, the Bucs could take the next-best receiver on their board, perhaps DeSean Jackson.
Scenario 3: Cornerback is a secondary need, and Talib would be a good value at this late point in the first round.

21. Washington Redskins -- Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson
Record: 9-7 | Needs: WR, S, DE, OL, CB
Scenario 1: Washington is likely hoping that Thomas lasts this long because the Redskins need a No.1 who's big enough to hold his ground against physical coverage and is fast enough to stretch the field.
Scenario 2: If the Redskins decide they can fill their need at receiver in the second round, Clemson DE Phillip Merling is an alternative.
Scenario 3: Finally, if the other two scenarios don't pan out WR James Hardy has the size and speed Washington is looking for, though he's not as fluid in his routes as Thomas.

22. Dallas Cowboys (from10-6 CLE) -- Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas
Record: 13-3 | Needs: CB, WR, RB, OT, S
Scenario 1: Cornerback should still a priority even if the team does complete a trade for Pacman Jones, but unless one of the top four corners slides this far, the Cowboys likely won't pull the trigger.
Scenario 2: Dallas is not expected to make a blockbuster trade in order to pick McFadden, but Jones would fill the need for a speedy complement to the more physical Marion Barber.
Scenario 3: Dallas could also select the best available receiver here.

23. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina
Record: 10-6 | Needs: DE (3-4), OT, WR, G, FS
Scenario 1: Balmer lined up at defensive tackle at North Carolina but is also an excellent fit at defensive end in a 3-4-scheme. Injuries limited 32-year-old Aaron Smith to 11 games last year and the Steelers' run defense struggled without him. Balmer could push Brett Keisel for the starting job opposite Smith this year, allowing Keisel to provide excellent depth as the No. 3.
Scenario 2: After defensive end, offensive tackle is Pittsburgh's greatest need, so Boston College's Gosder Cherilus is another option, though he would be a reach here.
Scenario 3: Pittsburgh could also select the best available receiver here.

24. Tennessee Titans -- DeSean Jackson, WR, California
Record: 10-6 | Needs: WR, DE, DT, CB, OLB
Scenario 1: Tennessee should jump on Balmer if he gets past Pittsburgh because he would immediately challenge for a starting job alongside Pro Bowl DT Albert Haynesworth.
Scenario 2: The Titans have an abundance of size at receiver but lack ideal explosiveness and have some problems separating from coverage when running routes underneath. Jackson has the burst to get open quickly and the run-after-catch ability to turn an underneath completion into a long gain. In addition, getting him would give an average punt return unit a boost.
Scenario 3: Merling is another possibility, as Tennessee will probably look to address the defensive end spot in the first three rounds.

25. Seattle Seahawks -- Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
Record: 10-6 | Needs: TE, WR, DT, OL, S
Scenario 1: Bobby Engram led the team with 94 catches last year but is 35 years old, Nate Burleson remains inconsistent and Deion Branch tore the ACL in his left knee in the Seahawks' playoff loss to Green Bay. In other words, Seattle needs help at receiver and Sweed would be a great pick this late in the first round.
Scenario 2: Efforts to draft a tight end who can be a featured weapon in the passing game have come up short, so the Seahawks signed Jeb Putzier in the offseason. However, Putzier has struggled the past three seasons so Seattle could still take either Purdue TE Dustin Keller or USC TE Fred Davis here.
Scenario 3: Safeties Brian Russell, Mike Green and Omare Lowe are all on the wrong side of 30, so Seattle could infuse some youth there. Phillips is by far the best available safety in a weak class and would fill that need.
Scenario 4: Balmer would also be a consideration if he slips.

26. Jacksonville Jaguars -- Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
Record: 11-5 | Needs: DE, DT, SS, OT, WR
Scenario 1: The Jaguars need help along the defensive front, and Campbell is the best available defensive lineman in this scenario.
Scenario 2: Jacksonville could also stand to upgrade over Tony Pashos at right tackle, making Cherilus an option.
Scenario 3: Phillips is a possibility for the Jags as well.

27. San Diego Chargers -- Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon
Record: 11-5 | Needs: ROT, S, RB, NT, CB
Scenario 1: San Diego clearly needs a right tackle, but value clearly trumps need in this case. Stewart's toe surgery has caused his stock to drop but he has great speed and size. He would be an excellent replacement for free agent departure Michael Turner and he wouldn't have to carry a punishing load as the backup to LaDainian Tomlinson.
Scenario 2: If the Chargers don't take Stewart, Cherilus is the logical pick.
Scenario 3: ILB Dan Connor is also a possibility.

28. Dallas Cowboys -- James Hardy, WR, Indiana
Record: 13-3 | Needs: WR, CB, RB, G, C, QB, NT
Scenario 1: After filling their need at running back earlier in the first round the Cowboys would love to address cornerback here, but a trade for Pacman Jones and/or a lack of value at corner at this point would mean a receiver makes more sense.
Scenario 2: The Cowboys could also use this pick on CB Brandon Flowers.

29. San Francisco 49ers (from 13-3 IND) -- Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
Record: 5-11 | Needs: ROT, OLB, WR, OL, QB, CB
Scenario 1: San Francisco did well to get OTJoe Staley in the first round last year, but Jonas Jennings has had problems staying healthy and doesn't appear to be the answer at left tackle. The 49ers can move Staley and his quick feet to the left side and then plug Cherilus in on the right, where he has the size and quickness to make an immediate impact.
Scenario 2: If Cherilus isn't available, expect San Francisco to address wide receiver needs, possibly with Malcolm Kelly.

30. Green Bay Packers -- Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech
Record: 13-3 | Needs: CB, S, OT, TE, QB
Scenario 1: CBs Charles Woodson and Al Harris are both on the downsides of their careers and there is no heir apparent behind them, so Green Bay needs to inject youth and talent at corner. Flowers lacks ideal speed, but doesn't make a lot of mistakes and is comfortable jamming receivers at the line, making him a good fit for the Packers' scheme.
Scenario 2: Safety is also a pressing need, so don't be surprised to see Green Bay take Phillips if Flowers comes off the board earlier than expected.

31. New England Patriots -- Pick forfeited
Record: 16-0 | Needs: ILB, CB, OLB, OL
The Patriots lost this pick as part of the penalty handed down for illegally taping Jets coaches from the sideline in Week 1.

32. New York Giants -- Kenny Phillips, S, Miami
Record: 10-6 | Needs: S, OLB, CB, WR, G, , DT
Scenario 1: Phillips makes sense here because the Giants need help at safety after losing Gibril Wilson to free agency and they aren't going to find much value at safety in the later rounds.
Scenario 2: Connor would be a good choice as well because he would offer solid value at one of the Giants' positions of need.




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Comparing my latest mock draft with the one I did on April 1, you won't see many changes within the first 10 picks. The one noticeably different pick is at No. 7, where I have the Patriots taking USC linebacker Keith Rivers. (In my last mock draft, I had New England taking cornerback Aqib Talib.)


Rivers is not a spectacular linebacker, but he is exactly what New England looks for in a player: He is smart, has great character and is versatile enough to fit into the Patriots' scheme. Plus, he fills a major need for the Patriots, who need to get younger at linebacker.

This mock draft also has four wide receivers in the first round, as opposed to just two in my last draft. I put Malcolm Kelly back in the first round because he played like a first-rounder at Oklahoma. There are some injury concerns, and he had a bad individual workout last week. Kelly is a difficult player to evaluate because he's a borderline first-round pick.

Aside from who the Dolphins will take with the No. 1 overall pick, there are several questions that won't have definitive answers until the draft:

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Post#17 » by Icness » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:25 pm

I like how McShay laid his out, with the different scenarios. That's essentially what I do in my head when I'm formulating a mock and I've messed with the idea of publishing one in that manner, with all sorts of if/then situations.

Between the two I think McShay's is closer to what is going to happen than Mel's, though if Mel tells you KC is taking Branden Albert, they're taking Branden Albert. Ditto the Ravens, Eagles and Skins--he is the ultimate insider for those teams whether you like him or not.
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Post#18 » by Rafael122 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:27 am

Iceness - Phillip Merling though? He had hernia surgery...

Also, is it just me or does it seem like ESPN is pushing Kiper out in favor of McShay? It looks like they are trying to make Mel look bad.
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Post#19 » by Next Coming » Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:10 am

Rafael122 wrote:Iceness - Phillip Merling though? He had hernia surgery...

Also, is it just me or does it seem like ESPN is pushing Kiper out in favor of McShay? It looks like they are trying to make Mel look bad.


Yeah I've started to see that too. If they trade the hair for McShay I'll be pretty angry.

I'll go so far and write ESPN a very angry letter.
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Post#20 » by Icness » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:19 pm

I can tell you this as fact--ESPN knows that the more hardcore fans pretty much either ignore or despise Mel, and that McShay is seen as someone more credible and substantive with those same fans. In essence Mel is becoming their NFL version of Dick Vitale--he's the story as much as what he's covering. People have a visceral reaction to Mel, whereas McShay doesn't really stand out or scream "Look at my freaking hair and listen to me shamelessly overhype players from my region!"

Having said that, I do happen to like Mel--but I have learned when to listen and when to tune him out. There is not one person on earth who knows more about the collegiate ability of the draftees than Mel Kiper Jr. When he talks about what they did well in college you had better take notes because he's almost always 100% dead on, even with the small college guys. It's projecting that college ability to the pros that trips him up...and IMO that is where McShay (and hopefully myself) do a better job.

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