Why do they still have the tag team tittle?

5th pick sucks · Post #1 » by **5th pick sucks** » Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:34 pm

I mean really, the only tag partners in the division is the hart dynasty The Dudebusters suck. So whats the point??? I guess Drew is teaming up with cody but, there is no tag tittle on SD.

Thoughts

jeffhardyfan52 · Post #2 » by **jeffhardyfan52** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:34 am

Well the Tag belts are for each brand

I guess they have juyst been there so long that they are a main stay in wwe

Brandon-Clyde · Post #3 » by **Brandon-Clyde** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:39 am

They still have the tag titles because it gives them another championship match they can put on ppv or tv

Post #4 » by **VintaGe36** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:34 am

WWE could still have their man-crush for untalented(or wildly misused talent) buff meat-heads and still have a great product if they beefed up the tag-team division and mid-card/cruiser-weight division.

Give wrestlers pushes that don't lead them to winning the world title or WWE title too prematurely or to unrealistically.

I hope they take the title from Miz and let Daniel Bryan use it for what would be some great matches and probably great feuds as well.

Post #5 » by **sunshinekids99** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:59 am

It's too bad cause the belts used to mean something in the past. I'd like to see them get back towards that.

sh00n · Post #6 » by **sh00n** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:49 pm

The WWE could easily re-buff the tag team division up if they took a bunch of their talented mid-card guys and paired them up and gave them an actual look and name. There are a lot of guys who are talented but there's an oversaturation of talent at the top right now and it's just burying them more and more every week. And it's not a knock against them to say that they should be tagged; most of the top guys in the business ever started off being parts of great tag teams and their individual talent and getting over caused them to be pushed hard for the rest of the careers (Bret & Shawn, best examples).

Post #7 » by **Stanford** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:32 pm

sh00n wrote:The WWE could easily re-buff the tag team division up if they took a bunch of their talented mid-card guys and paired them up and gave them an actual look and name. There are a lot of guys who are talented but there's an oversaturation of talent at the top right now and it's just burying them more and more every week. And it's not a knock against them to say that they should be tagged; most of the top guys in the business ever started off being parts of great tag teams and their individual talent and getting over caused them to be pushed hard for the rest of the careers (Bret & Shawn, best examples).

That would be the most ideal solution, I just don't think tag team wrestling is sexy enough for the young fans they're going for. Kids love superstars, and you can't be a superstar, for a number of reasons, when you're in a tag team.

Coach Smiley · Post #8 » by **Coach Smiley** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:22 pm

kids have always loved tag teams, Rock N Roll Express, Rockers, Hart Foundation, Bushwhackers, etc. etc. Vince just doesn't like them and there aren't many coming up on the indies as a result. If I was Vince I would sign Kings of Wrestling and the Briscoes, Hart Dynasty and Usos are a good start but not enough.

Just throwing together underutilized midcard guys isn't the solution, it's perpetuating the negative stigma towards tag wrestling. Bring in guys that actually do tag team wrestling and are a team. Also, I think it is the wrong attitude to view tag team wrestling merely as a step to break a guy into singles, it leads to premature break ups and even further diminishes the role of tag teams.

Post #9 » by **Stanford** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:53 pm

Coach Smiley wrote:kids have always loved tag teams, Rock N Roll Express, Rockers, Hart Foundation, Bushwhackers, etc.

Well I guess neither of us can really quantify that.

Tag teams had little appeal to me when I was a kid. The style of wrestling was more sophisticated, and thus a little boring. I don't think it's a stretch at all to say tag team wrestling is less appealing to the younger audience than a match where guys are fighting for themselves. Although you're probably right about Vince not liking tag teams.

I still think sh00ns idea is fine as long as they package the midcard guys together and teach them how to wrestle a tag team match. I mean I don't know it for a fact, but I'm guessing there's at least a few guys in the organization who train the roster on an ongoing basis. I hope it isn't just FCW and then they're done learning.

skbucks1985 · Post #10 » by **skbucks1985** » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:55 pm

sh00n wrote:The WWE could easily re-buff the tag team division up if they took a bunch of their talented mid-card guys and paired them up and gave them an actual look and name. There are a lot of guys who are talented but there's an oversaturation of talent at the top right now and it's just burying them more and more every week. And it's not a knock against them to say that they should be tagged; most of the top guys in the business ever started off being parts of great tag teams and their individual talent and getting over caused them to be pushed hard for the rest of the careers (Bret & Shawn, best examples).

Even if they gave them a name, the whole thing of pairing two guys who have minimal history or experience together rarely works. Miz and Morrison is an example of guys that worked well together. The Outsiders and Rock-N-Sock could be considered as well, but those guys were great for there promo abilities together moreso than their in-ring abilities together.

skbucks1985 · Post #11 » by **skbucks1985** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:00 am

VintaGe36 wrote:WWE could still have their man-crush for untalented(or wildly misused talent) buff meat-heads and still have a great product if they beefed up the tag-team division and mid-card/cruiser-weight division.

Give wrestlers pushes that don't lead them to winning the world title or WWE title too prematurely or to unrealistically.

I hope they take the title from Miz and let Daniel Bryan use it for what would be some great matches and probably great feuds as well.

Kinda taking this thread off-topic but the only problem with the Daniel Bryan US title reign(because I'd say its a near certainty he wins the title if not at NOC soon thereafter) is the lack of mid-card heels. If they don't push down guys like Edge or Jericho(which is possible) or put him with a Nexus guy(also possible) the pickings are very slim. After Ted Dibiase its guys like William Regal and Zach Ryder

Post #12 » by **VintaGe36** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:31 am

I think if you combine mid-cards with the right angle/gimmick(which someone eluded to before) it can work. Morrison and Miz were both confident tools, they were easy to hate.

For example pairing up Matt Hardy and Christian as guys who are convinced they are better than their brothers and want to get out of their shadows could have decent results. If only Matt wasn't fat.

Post #13 » by **Stanford** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:50 am

They don't even need to tie together in some sort of storyline. Just package them together.

It's definitely worth a try when it comes to guys who clearly aren't getting over with their current gimmick. Christian's not one of them though. He should never be tied down to a tag team partner, especially Matt Hardy.

skbucks1985 · Post #14 » by **skbucks1985** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:19 am

The other thing is that sounds like a heel team and Matt really can't play a heel. While the Matt 2.0 gimmick was pretty entertaining, it was a mid-card gimmick.

Heels are either the cowardly type (Edge) or the monster heel type (Sheamus). Matt can't be the monster type for obvious reasons. And the cowardly type doesn't work because everyone knows how hard he works.

Post #15 » by **VintaGe36** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:39 am

I wouldn't mind seeing the Miz/Alex Riley in a brief tag-team feud with Danielson/Kaval.

sh00n · Post #16 » by **sh00n** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:22 am

VintaGe36 wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing the Miz/Alex Riley in a brief tag-team feud with Danielson/Kaval.

Exactly. Miz and Alex Riley would be an incredible tag team if Miz wasn't over so much right now and in the title picture.

Coach Smiley · Post #17 » by **Coach Smiley** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:43 pm

you see what happens when you throw together two underachieving midcarders in a tag team?

Post #18 » by **loserX** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:14 pm

VintaGe36 wrote:I hope they take the title from Miz and let Daniel Bryan use it for what would be some great matches and probably great feuds as well.

I can see that...at Night of Champions, Bryan beats Miz, who cashes in his Money in the Bank in a fit of pique.

I also see it as somewhat inevitable that when Nexus splinters, a tag team will come out of it. They can't integrate 6 new singles guys at the same time.

CapeCrusader · Post #19 » by **CapeCrusader** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:19 pm

Coach Smiley wrote:

you see what happens when you throw together two underachieving midcarders in a tag team?

True but it also can be hit or miss....

Post #20 » by **VintaGe36** » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:45 pm

CapeCrusader wrote:
Coach Smiley wrote:

you see what happens when you throw together two underachieving midcarders in a tag team?

True but it also can be hit or miss....

What is everyone's thoughts on brief tag-teams like "Rated RKO"?