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Re: Robin Lopez is going to breakout. 

Post#21 » by Kerrsed » Sun Sep 5, 2010 12:22 am

sabonis wrote:how many minutes will he be getting next year? even though there is no backup center other than Frye, I don't find it likely that Lopez gets more than 30mpg right? maybe even less ? (let's say he has no foul trouble)


Jones is our other back-up C.
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Re: Robin Lopez is going to breakout. 

Post#22 » by phx#7 » Sun Sep 5, 2010 12:56 am

sabonis wrote:how many minutes will he be getting next year? even though there is no backup center other than Frye, I don't find it likely that Lopez gets more than 30mpg right? maybe even less ? (let's say he has no foul trouble)


No foul trouble then 30mpg sounds about right. I'm not convinced he'll stay out of foul trouble though.
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Post#23 » by Mujahydeen » Sun Sep 5, 2010 4:44 pm

Since Robin got comfortable in starting five, he was playing about 25 minutes, averaging ~12-7, I can see him getting little uptick in playing time and got close to 15-16 points and about 8-9 rebounds. With Amare gone he will be primary screen and roll man with Nash and will get much more shot opportunities.
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Post#24 » by SUN » Sun Sep 5, 2010 10:44 pm

I noticed last season that Channing Frye was taking a huge chunk out of Robin's minutes, he'd come in and jack up threes. That made me angry because we needed rebounding and it didn't end up happening, but with the new roster acquirements I see Channing get a cut in his minutes, although anything can happen. If he can get 25 minutes in a game, with the sporadic 30-35 minutes, then I'd be satisfied.
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Post#25 » by PHX_SUNS04 » Tue Sep 7, 2010 10:35 am

17 and 8 sounds about right, he looked pretty good runnin the pick and roll with nash and im sure they have been working on it a lot more with amare leaving
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Re: Robin Lopez is going to breakout. 

Post#26 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Sep 7, 2010 1:26 pm

SUN wrote:I noticed last season that Channing Frye was taking a huge chunk out of Robin's minutes, he'd come in and jack up threes. That made me angry because we needed rebounding and it didn't end up happening, but with the new roster acquirements I see Channing get a cut in his minutes, although anything can happen. If he can get 25 minutes in a game, with the sporadic 30-35 minutes, then I'd be satisfied.


Yeah, Gentry has a tendency to overplay Frye instead of giving minutes to Lopez for much needed rebounding, defense and inside scoring. I think, once again, Gentry will play Frye the same minutes because Frye's 3 does make this system go. When he's hitting them.
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Post#27 » by RunDogGun » Tue Sep 7, 2010 6:30 pm

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SUN wrote:I noticed last season that Channing Frye was taking a huge chunk out of Robin's minutes, he'd come in and jack up threes. That made me angry because we needed rebounding and it didn't end up happening, but with the new roster acquirements I see Channing get a cut in his minutes, although anything can happen. If he can get 25 minutes in a game, with the sporadic 30-35 minutes, then I'd be satisfied.


Yeah, Gentry has a tendency to overplay Frye instead of giving minutes to Lopez for much needed rebounding, defense and inside scoring. I think, once again, Gentry will play Frye the same minutes because Frye's 3 does make this system go. When he's hitting them.


Well even if he is not hitting them, it still opens the middle for guys cutting to the basket, which we now have two in JChill and Warrick. The other team will have to account for Frye, because at any time, he could get hot. Just imagine Dudley and Frye around the three, with Goran, JChill, and Warrick causing trouble all over the place. I actually think our bench got better. If Warrick and Frye can focus on rebounding the ball on the defensive end, we have a great running second unit.

I also think Jones will give Lopez a workout during practice. Hopefully Lopez can start rebounding at the rate Jones does.
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Post#28 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Sep 8, 2010 12:07 pm

Yeah he played his role but I thought sometimes Gentry would overplay Frye even though Lopez or Lou should be getting those minutes.
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Re: Robin Lopez is going to breakout. 

Post#29 » by So Gutta » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:56 am

Lopez looked good last year.

Do you guys consider him a C or a PF? I could envision him as a better PF than a true C... but either way, he looks like a solid NBA pro.
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Post#30 » by sunfire0112 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:07 am

So Gutta wrote:Lopez looked good last year.

Do you guys consider him a C or a PF? I could envision him as a better PF than a true C... but either way, he looks like a solid NBA pro.


I consider Lopez a C, probably the only true C on the roster. Idk if he's quick enough to consistently defend quicker or stretch PF's but he does a damn good job against most opposing C's.
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Re: Robin Lopez is going to breakout. 

Post#31 » by raff » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:01 am

phx#7 wrote:
sabonis wrote:how many minutes will he be getting next year? even though there is no backup center other than Frye, I don't find it likely that Lopez gets more than 30mpg right? maybe even less ? (let's say he has no foul trouble)


No foul trouble then 30mpg sounds about right. I'm not convinced he'll stay out of foul trouble though.


Hmm, let's hope he can control himself on defense because he will be our only "big". His per36 fouls for the two seasons have been 5.7 and 4.3. Obviously the latter being during an injury season, which doesn't really hold much in terms on analysis. But either way, the more he can play smart, the better chance we have in games.
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Post#32 » by Nando88 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:04 am

well... if robin does break out... he better have some ointment
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Re: Robin Lopez is going to breakout. 

Post#33 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:56 am

So Gutta wrote:Lopez looked good last year.

Do you guys consider him a C or a PF? I could envision him as a better PF than a true C... but either way, he looks like a solid NBA pro.


I don't think he's versatile enough to play the 4. Thus far his offensive arsenal is still pretty limited to garbage buckets, the occasional hook shot and the rare mid-range jumper. He doesn't really have the handles or offensive awareness to play the 4. As a C, he's looking real good though.
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Re: Robin Lopez is going to breakout. 

Post#34 » by raff » Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:17 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
So Gutta wrote:Lopez looked good last year.

Do you guys consider him a C or a PF? I could envision him as a better PF than a true C... but either way, he looks like a solid NBA pro.


I don't think he's versatile enough to play the 4. Thus far his offensive arsenal is still pretty limited to garbage buckets, the occasional hook shot and the rare mid-range jumper. He doesn't really have the handles or offensive awareness to play the 4. As a C, he's looking real good though.


4's in the NBA are able to move further and further out from the key. RoLo doesn't really have the ability to move with them to cover them. If he did, I think it would be a little too easy for his man to blow right past him. He has the physical aspects to be a C. I agree with fishi, as a C, he is looking real good. I can't wait for him to have a full season to show what he can do.
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Re: Robin Lopez is going to breakout. 

Post#35 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:27 pm

There's no problem with Rolo being a true C, it's probably better that way. There's a lot of tweener PF/C's in the league but the number of quality true C aren't that high, so it's a bit of a luxury really to have one on our roster.

Kind of like with Dragic, he's looking like a combo guard right now but depending on how we use him and how we develop him, he could be a true PG and those are harder to find than those tweener/undersized combo guards (which I hate).

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