GM a Team 10/11 : New Trades and Transactions Thread
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The Charlotte Bobcats and Denver Nuggets have agreed to the following:
Charlotte will send: Point Guard Jason WIlliams [854,389]
Orlando will send: Philadelphia 2012 2nd Round Pick
Deal works due to Williams Min. Contract
Charlotte will send: Point Guard Jason WIlliams [854,389]
Orlando will send: Philadelphia 2012 2nd Round Pick
Deal works due to Williams Min. Contract
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MJallday59 wrote:The Charlotte Bobcats and Denver Nuggets have agreed to the following:
Charlotte will send: Point Guard Jason WIlliams [854,389]
Orlando will send: Philadelphia 2012 2nd Round Pick
Deal works due to Williams Min. Contract
Trade accepted. I need the roster spot to sign my #8 pick, and the 2nd is a nice little asset for the future.
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JordanL wrote:MJallday59 wrote:The Charlotte Bobcats and Denver Nuggets have agreed to the following:
Charlotte will send: Point Guard Jason WIlliams [854,389]
Orlando will send: Philadelphia 2012 2nd Round Pick
Deal works due to Williams Min. Contract
Trade accepted. I need the roster spot to sign my #8 pick, and the 2nd is a nice little asset for the future.
TRADE VOIDED, Jason Williams is not getting paid that salary this season, nor any season in this game
During 2012 free agency at the begining of THIS game
Utah has signed Jason Williams - (2 years, 3.344), using their full BAE
Year 1: $1,672,000
Year 2: $1,672,000
so 1 he isn't a min, and Charlotte has the correct salary listed on the roster page.
Sorry guys, NO DEAL!
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And for the BOSTON/CHI/PORt 3 way that the 24 hour clock has yet to even start on,
A 4th veto has now been received
A 4th veto has now been received
I'd like to vote for veto on the three way... Chicago was offered better deals than that, no matter what the goal is, and I can't see how that trade could be his best option on the table.
Also, don't think Odom and Bryant playing in beantown would go over well.![]()
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Raptors and Magic have agreed on a trade:
Jonas Jerebko $4,800,000
Matt Carroll $3,900,000
for
Anderson Varejao $7,950,000
7.95 x 1.25 = 9.9 > 8.7
Raptors accept. I desperately needed a big man that could back me up and start in case of injury. I love Jerebko and especially the role he could play on a winning team but Varejao is just the perfect fit even if I'm not a big fan of his.
Jonas Jerebko $4,800,000
Matt Carroll $3,900,000
for
Anderson Varejao $7,950,000
7.95 x 1.25 = 9.9 > 8.7
Raptors accept. I desperately needed a big man that could back me up and start in case of injury. I love Jerebko and especially the role he could play on a winning team but Varejao is just the perfect fit even if I'm not a big fan of his.
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Orlando accepts
We are pleased to add another good young player in JJ to our team and also happy to have MC as a bonus. We fill out our depth a bit and are better situated for moving forward.
We are pleased to add another good young player in JJ to our team and also happy to have MC as a bonus. We fill out our depth a bit and are better situated for moving forward.

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jcldallas24 wrote:Portland Gets:
Rajon Rondo $10,045,455
Joe Johnson $18,038,573
Kevin Garnett $21,247,044
Portland Trades:
Kobe Bryant $25,244,493
Al Thornton $5,000,000
Lamar Odom $8,900,000
Tracy McGrady $3,000,000
Armon Johnson $884,293
Mike BIbby $6,417,616
Portland 2014 1st
Total Outgoing:$49,446,402
Total Incoming:$49,331,072
Boston Gets:
Kobe Bryant $25,244,493
Lamar Odom $8,900,000
Tracy McGrady $3,000,000
Al Thornton $5,000,000
Boston Trades:
Rajon Rondo $10,045,455
Ray Allen $10,000,000
Kevin Garnett $21,247,044
Total Outgoing:$41,292,499
Total Incoming:$42,144,493
CHicago Gets:
Ray Allen $10,000,000
Mike BIbby $6,417,616
Armon Johnson $884,293
Portland 2014 1st
Chicago Trades:
Joe JOhnson $18,038,573
Total Outgoing:$18,038,573
Total Incoming:$17,301,909
well its official!
I know the deal isn't agreed to by all parties yet but...
Mascot is being blatantly bad on purpose.
He even posted in discussion thread that low ball offers would be accepted and this deal(if he accepts it) is proof he wasn't kidding around.
He traded Billups/Noah to get JJ and if he wasn't so pissed about Melo or still had him no way in hell would he even contemplate JJ for a very old Ray Allen and Bibby.
TRADE VETOED BY THE LEAGUE
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SG: DWade / VC / Grant Hill
SF: KD / MWP
PF: Ibaka / Landry
C : DMC / Dalembert / Kelly Olynyk
draft rites to Serey Karaey
PG: DWill / Bayless
SG: DWade / VC / Grant Hill
SF: KD / MWP
PF: Ibaka / Landry
C : DMC / Dalembert / Kelly Olynyk
draft rites to Serey Karaey
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The Atlanta Hawks and Portland Trail Blazers have come to terms on a deal.
Atlanta Hawks send: Marvin Williams, Jordan Crawford, Zaza Pachulia, and the 2012 Phoenix Suns second round pick - $13,132,940
Atlanta Hawks receive: Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace, and Austin Daye - $11,720,240
Portland Trail Blazers send: Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace, and Austin Daye - $11,720,240
Portland Trail Blazers receive: Marvin Williams, Jordan Crawford, Zaza Pachulia, and the 2012 Phoenix Suns second round pick - $13,132,940
Atlanta accepts. This is mostly for cap reasons. Crawford was, yet again, going to be lost in the shuffle due to the accusation of Rush (who, as of now, we plan to keep longterm), the second round is very likely going to be late and, with two firsts in 2012, we didn't have a great deal of use for the pick, and trading Zaza helps cut some of the overloaded depth at center.
As for Marvin, we are comfortable in starting Delfino at the moment and we'll look for a new direction at the 3 later on. A chance was taken with drafting Marvin at #2 and he didn't quite pan out as we hoped. We wish him the best in Portland.
Atlanta Hawks send: Marvin Williams, Jordan Crawford, Zaza Pachulia, and the 2012 Phoenix Suns second round pick - $13,132,940
Atlanta Hawks receive: Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace, and Austin Daye - $11,720,240
Portland Trail Blazers send: Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace, and Austin Daye - $11,720,240
Portland Trail Blazers receive: Marvin Williams, Jordan Crawford, Zaza Pachulia, and the 2012 Phoenix Suns second round pick - $13,132,940
Atlanta accepts. This is mostly for cap reasons. Crawford was, yet again, going to be lost in the shuffle due to the accusation of Rush (who, as of now, we plan to keep longterm), the second round is very likely going to be late and, with two firsts in 2012, we didn't have a great deal of use for the pick, and trading Zaza helps cut some of the overloaded depth at center.
As for Marvin, we are comfortable in starting Delfino at the moment and we'll look for a new direction at the 3 later on. A chance was taken with drafting Marvin at #2 and he didn't quite pan out as we hoped. We wish him the best in Portland.
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BarnesTheSavior wrote:The Atlanta Hawks and Portland Trail Blazers have come to terms on a deal.
Atlanta Hawks send: Marvin Williams, Jordan Crawford, Zaza Pachulia, and the 2012 Phoenix Suns second round pick - $13,132,940
Atlanta Hawks receive: Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace, and Austin Daye - $11,720,240
Portland Trail Blazers send: Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace, and Austin Daye - $11,720,240
Portland Trail Blazers receive: Marvin Williams, Jordan Crawford, Zaza Pachulia, and the 2012 Phoenix Suns second round pick - $13,132,940
Atlanta accepts. This is mostly for cap reasons. Crawford was, yet again, going to be lost in the shuffle due to the accusation of Rush (who, as of now, we plan to keep longterm), the second round is very likely going to be late and, with two firsts in 2012, we didn't have a great deal of use for the pick, and trading Zaza helps cut some of the overloaded depth at center.
As for Marvin, we are comfortable in starting Delfino at the moment and we'll look for a new direction at the 3 later on. A chance was taken with drafting Marvin at #2 and he didn't quite pan out as we hoped. We wish him the best in Portland.
Portland Accepts we get the SF that we have been lacking, and we hope Marv will continue to develop that outside shot...Nice Dealing ATL
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Raptors and Magic have agreed on a trade:
Jonas Jerebko $4,800,000
Matt Carroll $3,900,000
for
Anderson Varejao $7,950,000
7.95 x 1.25 = 9.9 > 8.7
TRADE APPROVED, please update your rosters
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SG: DWade / VC / Grant Hill
SF: KD / MWP
PF: Ibaka / Landry
C : DMC / Dalembert / Kelly Olynyk
draft rites to Serey Karaey
PG: DWill / Bayless
SG: DWade / VC / Grant Hill
SF: KD / MWP
PF: Ibaka / Landry
C : DMC / Dalembert / Kelly Olynyk
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BarnesTheSavior wrote:The Atlanta Hawks and Portland Trail Blazers have come to terms on a deal.
Atlanta Hawks send: Marvin Williams, Jordan Crawford, Zaza Pachulia, and the 2012 Phoenix Suns second round pick - $13,132,940
Atlanta Hawks receive: Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace, and Austin Daye - $11,720,240
Portland Trail Blazers send: Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace, and Austin Daye - $11,720,240
Portland Trail Blazers receive: Marvin Williams, Jordan Crawford, Zaza Pachulia, and the 2012 Phoenix Suns second round pick - $13,132,940
Atlanta accepts. This is mostly for cap reasons. Crawford was, yet again, going to be lost in the shuffle due to the accusation of Rush (who, as of now, we plan to keep longterm), the second round is very likely going to be late and, with two firsts in 2012, we didn't have a great deal of use for the pick, and trading Zaza helps cut some of the overloaded depth at center.
As for Marvin, we are comfortable in starting Delfino at the moment and we'll look for a new direction at the 3 later on. A chance was taken with drafting Marvin at #2 and he didn't quite pan out as we hoped. We wish him the best in Portland.
FYI for ATL, you were asking me about waiving UNG contracts, TMAc is not UNG, he was a partial guarantee that became fully guaranteed day 1 of free agency. If he was who you were asking about
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PG: DWill / Bayless
SG: DWade / VC / Grant Hill
SF: KD / MWP
PF: Ibaka / Landry
C : DMC / Dalembert / Kelly Olynyk
draft rites to Serey Karaey
PG: DWill / Bayless
SG: DWade / VC / Grant Hill
SF: KD / MWP
PF: Ibaka / Landry
C : DMC / Dalembert / Kelly Olynyk
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The Portland Trailblazers and Detroit Pistons have agreed upon a trade.
The Pistons send Zach Randolph ($5,800,000) and Desagana Diop ($6,925,400) in exchange for Lamar Odom ($8,900,000) and Elliot Williams ($1,348,800).
Pistons Outgoing/Blazers Incoming: $12,725,400
Blazers Outgoing/Pistons Incoming: 10,248,800 X 1.25 = $12,811,000
Pistons accept. This was tough for us, we feel Randolph is an exceptional player, and lose out on his scoring talent, but for an off the bench role, we like the versatility, and more familiarity with the role that Odom brings us. We also had no need for Diop, and while we don't save a whole load of money, any savings is a step in the right direction to achieve the goal we had set out prior to this competition. We also like the talent of Williams, a first round pick in this years past draft.
The Pistons send Zach Randolph ($5,800,000) and Desagana Diop ($6,925,400) in exchange for Lamar Odom ($8,900,000) and Elliot Williams ($1,348,800).
Pistons Outgoing/Blazers Incoming: $12,725,400
Blazers Outgoing/Pistons Incoming: 10,248,800 X 1.25 = $12,811,000
Pistons accept. This was tough for us, we feel Randolph is an exceptional player, and lose out on his scoring talent, but for an off the bench role, we like the versatility, and more familiarity with the role that Odom brings us. We also had no need for Diop, and while we don't save a whole load of money, any savings is a step in the right direction to achieve the goal we had set out prior to this competition. We also like the talent of Williams, a first round pick in this years past draft.
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TMACFORMVP wrote:The Portland Trailblazers and Detroit Pistons have agreed upon a trade.
The Pistons send Zach Randolph ($5,800,000) and Desagana Diop ($6,925,400) in exchange for Lamar Odom ($8,900,000) and Elliot Williams ($1,348,800).
Pistons Outgoing/Blazers Incoming: $12,725,400
Blazers Outgoing/Pistons Incoming: 10,248,800 X 1.25 = $12,811,000
Pistons accept. This was tough for us, we feel Randolph is an exceptional player, and lose out on his scoring talent, but for an off the bench role, we like the versatility, and more familiarity with the role that Odom brings us. We also had no need for Diop, and while we don't save a whole load of money, any savings is a step in the right direction to achieve the goal we had set out prior to this competition. We also like the talent of Williams, a first round pick in this years past draft.
Portland accepts....I like the post game and shooting ability that Randolph can bring to the team especially playing next to Dwight. One of his weaknesses is Defense and at C we have Howard/Zaza/Diop to cover his back for him if necessary....We we're in talks about this deal for a long time....Im just glad to finally get it done...Nice dealin tmac
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BarnesTheSavior wrote:The Atlanta Hawks and Portland Trail Blazers have come to terms on a deal.
Atlanta Hawks send: Marvin Williams, Jordan Crawford, Zaza Pachulia, and the 2012 Phoenix Suns second round pick - $13,132,940
Atlanta Hawks receive: Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace, and Austin Daye - $11,720,240
Portland Trail Blazers send: Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace, and Austin Daye - $11,720,240
Portland Trail Blazers receive: Marvin Williams, Jordan Crawford, Zaza Pachulia, and the 2012 Phoenix Suns second round pick - $13,132,940
Atlanta accepts. This is mostly for cap reasons. Crawford was, yet again, going to be lost in the shuffle due to the accusation of Rush (who, as of now, we plan to keep longterm), the second round is very likely going to be late and, with two firsts in 2012, we didn't have a great deal of use for the pick, and trading Zaza helps cut some of the overloaded depth at center.
As for Marvin, we are comfortable in starting Delfino at the moment and we'll look for a new direction at the 3 later on. A chance was taken with drafting Marvin at #2 and he didn't quite pan out as we hoped. We wish him the best in Portland.
ATL has asked to put this trade on hold. Since Portand incorrectly (after I have asked him multiple times to fix) lists McGrady as UNG. ATL was planning on doing this to lower his team salary by waiving what he thought was an UNG contract. He wants to rework things with PORTLAND
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SF: KD / MWP
PF: Ibaka / Landry
C : DMC / Dalembert / Kelly Olynyk
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PG: DWill / Bayless
SG: DWade / VC / Grant Hill
SF: KD / MWP
PF: Ibaka / Landry
C : DMC / Dalembert / Kelly Olynyk
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Due to a confusion, the Atlanta Hawks and Portland Trail Blazers trade will not carry out.
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The Portland Trailblazers and Detroit Pistons have agreed upon a trade.
The Pistons send
Zach Randolph ($5,800,000)
Desagana Diop ($6,925,400)
The Blazers send
Lamar Odom ($8,900,000)
Elliot Williams ($1,348,800).
Pistons Outgoing/Blazers Incoming: $12,725,400
Blazers Outgoing/Pistons Incoming: 10,248,800 X 1.25 = $12,811,000
TRADE APPROVED, please update rosters
2012 GMAT Christmas Edition : OKC Thunder
PG: DWill / Bayless
SG: DWade / VC / Grant Hill
SF: KD / MWP
PF: Ibaka / Landry
C : DMC / Dalembert / Kelly Olynyk
draft rites to Serey Karaey
PG: DWill / Bayless
SG: DWade / VC / Grant Hill
SF: KD / MWP
PF: Ibaka / Landry
C : DMC / Dalembert / Kelly Olynyk
draft rites to Serey Karaey
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The Detroit Pistons and New York Knicks have agreed upon a deal.
The Knicks send O.J. Mayo ($5,632,637), Mason Plumlee ($1,563,120), and Quentin Richardson ($2,446,200) in exchange for Monta Ellis ($11,000,000).
Pistons Outgoing/Knicks Incoming: $11,000,000
Knicks Outgoing/Pistons Incoming: $9,371,957 X 1.25 = $11,714,946
Deal Works!
The Pistons in a separate trade will also send Kurt Thomas to NYK, works as that's a minimum deal.
Pistons accept, we hate to lose Ellis, but we feel Mayo is comparable in terms of ability, and is a slightly better fit (maybe..), but also being in the cost cutting mood, we save a little bit of cash, and pick up a prospect from the past draft.
The Knicks send O.J. Mayo ($5,632,637), Mason Plumlee ($1,563,120), and Quentin Richardson ($2,446,200) in exchange for Monta Ellis ($11,000,000).
Pistons Outgoing/Knicks Incoming: $11,000,000
Knicks Outgoing/Pistons Incoming: $9,371,957 X 1.25 = $11,714,946
Deal Works!
The Pistons in a separate trade will also send Kurt Thomas to NYK, works as that's a minimum deal.
Pistons accept, we hate to lose Ellis, but we feel Mayo is comparable in terms of ability, and is a slightly better fit (maybe..), but also being in the cost cutting mood, we save a little bit of cash, and pick up a prospect from the past draft.
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New York accepts. We were dying to do a deal, and we feel this is the right one. Ellis was 6th in the league in scoring and second steals, just what we need. We welcome Monta into our core, and we cant wait to see a Josh Smith and Monta Ellis 1-2 combo.
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TMACFORMVP wrote:The Detroit Pistons and New York Knicks have agreed upon a deal.
The Knicks send
O.J. Mayo ($5,632,637)
Mason Plumlee ($1,563,120)
Quentin Richardson ($2,446,200)
Detroit sends
Monta Ellis ($11,000,000).
Pistons Outgoing/Knicks Incoming: $11,000,000
Knicks Outgoing/Pistons Incoming: $9,371,957 X 1.25 = $11,714,946
The Pistons in a separate trade will also send Kurt Thomas to NYK, works as that's a minimum deal.
TRADES APPROVED, please update rosters
2012 GMAT Christmas Edition : OKC Thunder
PG: DWill / Bayless
SG: DWade / VC / Grant Hill
SF: KD / MWP
PF: Ibaka / Landry
C : DMC / Dalembert / Kelly Olynyk
draft rites to Serey Karaey
PG: DWill / Bayless
SG: DWade / VC / Grant Hill
SF: KD / MWP
PF: Ibaka / Landry
C : DMC / Dalembert / Kelly Olynyk
draft rites to Serey Karaey
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Washington and Cleveland have agreed to a trade:
Washington trades/Cleveland receives:
Ronnny Turiaf $4,360,000
2013 Washington 2nd
Total x 1.25 = $5,450,000
Cleveland Trades/Washington Receives:
DJ Augustin $3,236,470
Joey Graham $1,000,000
Jodie Meeks $884,293
Total: $5,120,763
My depth chart is way too deep and I have needed a center for a while. Augustine would have left after next year because I simply don't need him as a backup, Meeks wasn't getting the playing time he deserved and Graham would have never cracked the rotation so I decided to combine my assets and fill a position of need. I have always liked Turiaf and even though he won't be a top starting center he will fit in well and provide some much-needed toughness on the block and some good interior defense. He is also pretty proficient at that 15 foot jump shot Byron Scott loves his centers to be able to hit.
Washington trades/Cleveland receives:
Ronnny Turiaf $4,360,000
2013 Washington 2nd
Total x 1.25 = $5,450,000
Cleveland Trades/Washington Receives:
DJ Augustin $3,236,470
Joey Graham $1,000,000
Jodie Meeks $884,293
Total: $5,120,763
My depth chart is way too deep and I have needed a center for a while. Augustine would have left after next year because I simply don't need him as a backup, Meeks wasn't getting the playing time he deserved and Graham would have never cracked the rotation so I decided to combine my assets and fill a position of need. I have always liked Turiaf and even though he won't be a top starting center he will fit in well and provide some much-needed toughness on the block and some good interior defense. He is also pretty proficient at that 15 foot jump shot Byron Scott loves his centers to be able to hit.

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