Packer leaning toward Draft to find backup qb
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Packer leaning toward Draft to find backup qb
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Packer leaning toward Draft to find backup qb
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i wouldn't mind taking someone like a flacco, brohm and henne to challenge rodgers.
i wouldn't mind taking someone like a flacco, brohm and henne to challenge rodgers.
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You don't invest a top pick to play backup forever. Look DB and others had fits Rod sat for a couple seasons behind an aging sure to soon retire vet. If coaches really believe in Rod - the backup is gonna be a backup for as long as Rodgers starts. Essentially if Rod plays well - as young as he is - the other guy wil l never start. Yes backup QB is valuable but not over other starter positions.
However if coaches are not really sold on Rod...
I say draft a QB 4th or lower to be this year's #3 QB and resign Nall to be #2 for one season. Next year - this years rookie either develops into #2 or we take another shot at next off season's vet FA QBs.
Its not like a rookie drafted in the low 1st is going to play that great as a starter this season anyway if Rod goes down. Don't waste a 1st day pick.[/u]
However if coaches are not really sold on Rod...
I say draft a QB 4th or lower to be this year's #3 QB and resign Nall to be #2 for one season. Next year - this years rookie either develops into #2 or we take another shot at next off season's vet FA QBs.
Its not like a rookie drafted in the low 1st is going to play that great as a starter this season anyway if Rod goes down. Don't waste a 1st day pick.[/u]
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Pat Kirwan had the Packers drafting Harrell last season. This year, in his last mock he had the Packers taking Brohm. I wouldn't be opposed, even though I think Rodgers will be the guy here for a long time. I look at what the Browns have with both Quinn and Anderson. Because neither is getting paid franchise QB or top five pick money they can afford to develop two quality QBs. If the Packers think of it as an investment, maybe taking Brohm isn't such a bad idea.
Worst case scenario Rodgers goes down during the year and they have a talented backup to come in and showcase himself a bit. Best case we never need Brohm, have a nice backup and deal him in two years the way Cleveland will do with Quinn, Packers did with Hasselback and the Falcons did with Schaub.
The Packers have no immediate needs, they can use their two 2nd rounders to shore up a line and DB position.
Worst case scenario Rodgers goes down during the year and they have a talented backup to come in and showcase himself a bit. Best case we never need Brohm, have a nice backup and deal him in two years the way Cleveland will do with Quinn, Packers did with Hasselback and the Falcons did with Schaub.
The Packers have no immediate needs, they can use their two 2nd rounders to shore up a line and DB position.
NFL.com wrote:Compares To: DREW BREES-New Orleans...Brohm is three inches taller and 15 pounds heavier than Brees, but both show tremendous poise standing in with the pocket tightening. Brohm has the drive back from center and to his pass-set point and the vision scan quickly to locate secondary targets. He is a high-percentage passer and good decision maker who will not force the ball into a crowd. While his arm strength isn't cannon-like, he is capable of making all the throws, showing good patience when attacking the middle of the zone. Even though the team struggled in 2007, he remained healthy as a senior, securing his spot as a probable first-round pick in the 2008 NFL Draft.
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DH34Phan wrote:Brian Brohm has #1 overall pick talent, and was a leading front runner as the best QB in the nation going into his Senior Year.
If he is there at 30, he is great value, kind of like Aaron Rodgers in 2005.
People know I like reading King quite a bit, and I think he's got a valid argument when talking about Brohm:
Peter King wrote:Brohm would have been a top 10 pick a year ago, and his drop confuses me. He completed 65 percent of his throws, had 30 TDs and 12 picks, and threw for a career-high 4,024 yards. One scout told me Ryan edges Brohm in arm strength (slightly) and physical strength (slightly). Still, knocking Brohm down to the second round seems misguided. There's no good reason to do it.
Peter King wrote:7. I think I still haven't figured out how Brian Brohm could be rated a top-10 pick in 2007 and drop to second-roundville in 2008 after having completed 65 percent of his throws as a senior, with 30 touchdowns and 12 interceptions while playing for a new coach. Explain that to me. Someone. Anyone.
Personally, I wasn't overly impressed with Brohm as a junior when people were saying he could be a top 10 pick if he came out. I didn't like the arm-strength. But I also thought he was a solid first round pick, and I think the job he did last season under a new coach actually bumped him up in my eyes.
I think a team like the Vikes actually takes him in the first.
But I think you could put me on the Brohm bandwagon.
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I have no problem taking a QB in the first round.
I have been impressed with Rodgers thus far. Coming in to Green Bay to talk with the Coaches and starting to get ready for next year looks great.
However, in the little bit of action he has seen, he has been frail.
I would take a QB to push him, and heaven forbid he gets hurt, we have a solid, young, developing prospect behind him.
If Brohm is there, I believe we need to take him.
I have been impressed with Rodgers thus far. Coming in to Green Bay to talk with the Coaches and starting to get ready for next year looks great.
However, in the little bit of action he has seen, he has been frail.
I would take a QB to push him, and heaven forbid he gets hurt, we have a solid, young, developing prospect behind him.
If Brohm is there, I believe we need to take him.
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If we were actually taking a QB in the first I would prefer Flacco. He has more physical tools, a better arm, and a much higher upside than Brohm, IMO. Personally I would hate to see us draft a qb in the first. It would really be a testament to how the organization views Rodgers. I wouldn't mind a guy like Woodson with one of our seconds if we decided to draft a qb on day one. Ideally I would like Brennan in round 5 or later, or Josh Johnson somewhere in the mid round area.
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jakecronus8 wrote:If we were actually taking a QB in the first I would prefer Flacco. He has more physical tools, a better arm, and a much higher upside than Brohm, IMO. Personally I would hate to see us draft a qb in the first. It would really be a testament to how the organization views Rodgers. I wouldn't mind a guy like Woodson with one of our seconds if we decided to draft a qb on day one. Ideally I would like Brennan in round 5 or later, or Josh Johnson somewhere in the mid round area.
I think that's how most would see it, but I don't. Like I said earlier, right now the Packers are spending relatively little at the QB position in relation to other teams. They can afford to have two young, good QBs on their roster. Even if they have the utmost confidence in Rodgers ability, we've got no one behind him and he's been fragile thus far. Besides, it's been said that if you don't have two QBs in the NFL you don't have any and I believe that.
I like Henne in the 2nd or Brohm in the first.
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Obviously this is Rodgers job, but what if he fails? We are positive because of really, one half of football against the cowboys. Before that were everyone here satisfied with his play?
I think it would be good to have a young guy there to push him, and to get the best from him.
If one turns out better than the other, we can move the other one because they would still have value.
I see our goal here would be to have two QB's that were young that we could grow, and then when we are happy with one, trade the other.
I think it would be good to have a young guy there to push him, and to get the best from him.
If one turns out better than the other, we can move the other one because they would still have value.
I see our goal here would be to have two QB's that were young that we could grow, and then when we are happy with one, trade the other.
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I'd have no qualms with Brohm as the pick. I really like him as a challenger to Rodgers.
Rodgers definately impressed me last year but I just can't get over how frail he seems to be.
Plus, Brohm would work quite well in our offense. He wouldn't have to throw deep much at all.
Rodgers definately impressed me last year but I just can't get over how frail he seems to be.
Plus, Brohm would work quite well in our offense. He wouldn't have to throw deep much at all.
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I like the thought of drafting a QB in this draft, but I don't think it necessarily has to be in the early rounds.
Outside of Ryan, there really isn't a top flight QB out there, and I'd really only look at Brohm as a potential late first rounder. I was not that high on him last year (when everyone thought he was the #1 pick in the draft) and mentioned a couple of times that I much preferred Ryan. I would consider him at 30, but it would really depend on who else was there....so w/out knowing the alternatives I'm not sure whether I'd recommend taking him. I'd prefer one of the DE's if they fell (Calais Campbell), or someone like Brandon Flowers who has rocketed up draft boards the last fwe weeks.
I really don't like Flacco and am not buying into the hype. So the guy's got a huge arm and put up some big numbers at Delaware...big whoop. He's the same guy that couldn't stand competing with friggin Tyler Palko at Pitt, so he had to transfer to some place where he could put up big numbers. I know people transfer for a litany of reasons, but I just don't think your first round pick should be on a player who backed away from competition AT the most important position on the field. You didn't see Brady transfer from Michigan even tho he continued to get jobbed by the UM coaching staff with Henson, despite routinely outplaying Henson. Say nothing of the laundry list of strong-armed QBs who impressed in workouts but just didn't justify their high selection in the NFL.
I'm a little luke warm on Henne as well....just never seemed to get over the hump at Michigan. He was such a yo-yo...would look fabulous one minute and then average the next....all the while with arguably the best WR groupings in college football every year. A little too much Henson if you ask me....
I'd rather select one of the less-heralded prospects who are likely to go in rounds 3-5....heck, maybe even booty at the end of round 3.
Outside of Ryan, there really isn't a top flight QB out there, and I'd really only look at Brohm as a potential late first rounder. I was not that high on him last year (when everyone thought he was the #1 pick in the draft) and mentioned a couple of times that I much preferred Ryan. I would consider him at 30, but it would really depend on who else was there....so w/out knowing the alternatives I'm not sure whether I'd recommend taking him. I'd prefer one of the DE's if they fell (Calais Campbell), or someone like Brandon Flowers who has rocketed up draft boards the last fwe weeks.
I really don't like Flacco and am not buying into the hype. So the guy's got a huge arm and put up some big numbers at Delaware...big whoop. He's the same guy that couldn't stand competing with friggin Tyler Palko at Pitt, so he had to transfer to some place where he could put up big numbers. I know people transfer for a litany of reasons, but I just don't think your first round pick should be on a player who backed away from competition AT the most important position on the field. You didn't see Brady transfer from Michigan even tho he continued to get jobbed by the UM coaching staff with Henson, despite routinely outplaying Henson. Say nothing of the laundry list of strong-armed QBs who impressed in workouts but just didn't justify their high selection in the NFL.
I'm a little luke warm on Henne as well....just never seemed to get over the hump at Michigan. He was such a yo-yo...would look fabulous one minute and then average the next....all the while with arguably the best WR groupings in college football every year. A little too much Henson if you ask me....
I'd rather select one of the less-heralded prospects who are likely to go in rounds 3-5....heck, maybe even booty at the end of round 3.
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I know a few NFL teams, including Green Bay, have talked with this kid:
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I'd be more than a little happy if the Packers could bring him in. I don't want to become a Vikings fan.
Ben King, QB, Minnesota State: 6-0 1/2, 210. Played at Marshfield. . . Led DII passers in '07 with 4,096 yards, played in the Cactus Bowl (DII all-star game) in January and named honorable mention on all-North Central Conference team. . . Ran 4.72 at Minnesota pro day last month and threw for scouts. . . "I thought I threw the ball really well," King said. "I think I have a chance to get signed as a free agent." . . Spent one year ('02) at Eastern Illinois, hoping to succeed Tony Romo, but transferred to Minnesota State in '03. . . Four-year starter for teams with 15-29 record, although 6-5 mark in '04 was school's first winning season in a decade. . . Finished with 11,035 yards passing, 72 TDs, 54 interceptions and 57.4%. . . "The offense was predicated on throwing 60 to 70 balls a game," he said. "It was almost like an Arena atmosphere.: . . Scored 24 on the Wonderlic. . . Has drawn interest from CFL teams. . . Also pitched three years on the baseball team and spent two summers pitching in an independent minor league. Didn't play football in '05 to concentrate on baseball, but hasn't pitched in two years. . . Possible free agent.
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I'd be more than a little happy if the Packers could bring him in. I don't want to become a Vikings fan.