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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#121 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:56 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:Collison is a turnover machine. Jrue, I think would make a great fit. However, I still don't see how Jennings doesn't fit. He's a quick PG who can put the ball in the basket. He may have shot the ball rather poorly as a rookie, but shot selection can be worked on. He's a young player. Not everyone has that Tim Duncan persona. Just because he has an eccentric personality, you shouldn't cross him off right away. Amare wasn't always that quiet warrior. He calls himself Black Jesus. Some guy called himself Starbury. How is that not cocky. orangeandblue brings up a good point too, twitter wasn't around when these older stars were growing up. Arenas was really the first player to use a blog regularly.

Randolph also has character issues. There is no denying that. Why is he in a Knick uniform.

Collison is still a much better PG, turnovers and all. I am not against Jennings because of his personality, though it doesn't help. I don't think he is a good PG. Plain and simple. He reminds of Devin Harris or Crawford.

Also, Randolph being here has less to do with his character issues, and more to do with Don Nelson's. What has Randolph ever done?
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#122 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:02 am

Capital Edge wrote:How do his skills make him a poor fit???? Why do you expand on that you moron?

THey didn't take him b/c ya boy Donnie didn't get a good look at him before the draft.

Hmm...let's see.
Not a true PG, more of a combo guard. That alone makes him a bad fit.
Bad shot selection and shoots too much. Gets 15 pts on 14 shots. Not efficient.
Bad finisher
Bad defender

What separates Jennings from Devin Harris or Jamal Crawford?

As far as the not drafting him, Donnie saw tape of him, went to Europe to see him, and BJ stood us up. Back in the states, we worked out Jennings 3 times. Twice in a group, and the last one was a private workout a few nights before the draft. Donnie and Mike saw him plenty.

What's with the name calling? You catching feelings for Jennings?
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#123 » by ComboGuardCity » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:04 am

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ComboGuardCity wrote:Collison is a turnover machine. Jrue, I think would make a great fit. However, I still don't see how Jennings doesn't fit. He's a quick PG who can put the ball in the basket. He may have shot the ball rather poorly as a rookie, but shot selection can be worked on. He's a young player. Not everyone has that Tim Duncan persona. Just because he has an eccentric personality, you shouldn't cross him off right away. Amare wasn't always that quiet warrior. He calls himself Black Jesus. Some guy called himself Starbury. How is that not cocky. orangeandblue brings up a good point too, twitter wasn't around when these older stars were growing up. Arenas was really the first player to use a blog regularly.

Randolph also has character issues. There is no denying that. Why is he in a Knick uniform.

Collison is still a much better PG, turnovers and all. I am not against Jennings because of his personality, though it doesn't help. I don't think he is a good PG. Plain and simple. He reminds of Devin Harris or Crawford.

Also, Randolph being here has less to do with his character issues, and more to do with Don Nelson's. What has Randolph ever done?


I remember reading both his coaches and captains were upset with his attitude in practice.

Also you're walsh comments are mute since Walsh pretty much blamed his staff for not scouting Jennings more.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#124 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:14 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:I remember reading both his coaches and captains were upset with his attitude in practice.

Also you're walsh comments are mute since Walsh pretty much blamed his staff for not scouting Jennings more.

I'm not invalidating Walsh's comments. I'm just telling you what the facts are. As someone who is extremely familiar with how NBA teams choose to do damage control, I personally believe Donnie's comments are more spin than truth. That's just me though.

I never really followed Randolph as a person before this, so you may or may not be correct. Unless you can give me a link, it is just hearsay. Even so, Randolph had the sense not to draw attention to himself.
There is also no denying that Don Nelson had a negative influence on his career thus far.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#125 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:14 am

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Capital Edge wrote:How do his skills make him a poor fit???? Why do you expand on that you moron?

THey didn't take him b/c ya boy Donnie didn't get a good look at him before the draft.

Hmm...let's see.
Not a true PG, more of a combo guard. That alone makes him a bad fit.
Bad shot selection and shoots too much. Gets 15 pts on 14 shots. Not efficient.
Bad finisher
Bad defender

What separates Jennings from Devin Harris or Jamal Crawford?

As far as the not drafting him, Donnie saw tape of him, went to Europe to see him, and BJ stood us up. Back in the states, we worked out Jennings 3 times. Twice in a group, and the last one was a private workout a few nights before the draft. Donnie and Mike saw him plenty.

What's with the name calling? You catching feelings for Jennings?

Wow you are an f'ing idiot and your making all Knicks fan look stupid. How is he not a true PG and a bad defender??? Any player who is on a Scott SKiles coached team knows that if you can't play D, you will be on the bench. This has what got Mo Williams run out of town. And for God Sakes, he's a f***** rookie. Looks like Donnie was wrong after all those work outs, he should be ashamed of himself.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#126 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:15 am

In your opinion though, what separates Jennings from Harris or Crawford? I'm interested.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#127 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:25 am

Capital Edge wrote:Wow you are an f'ing idiot and your making all Knicks fan look stupid. How is he not a true PG and a bad defender??? Any player who is on a Scott SKiles coached team knows that if you can't play D, you will be on the bench. This has what got Mo Williams run out of town. And for God Sakes, he's a f***** rookie. Looks like Donnie was wrong after all those work outs, he should be ashamed of himself.

First off, calm down. You are acting like a child. You would think I was talking about your girlfriend instead of a basketball player.

Secondly, Brandon Jennings is not a true PG because he looks for his shot first and often, and he isn't even a good shooter. On top of that, he gets by on his passing ability moreso than his ability to actually read a defense and react accordingly.

Thirdly, I don't care who his coach is, he is not a good defender. The only point you made is that he may be a better defender than Mo Williams.

I'll ask you as well, what makes Jennings different from Devin Harris or Jamal Crawford?
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#128 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:30 am

GONYK wrote:In your opinion though, what separates Jennings from Harris or Crawford? I'm interested.

Jennings is much quicker, better ball handling skills, better passer and brings more talent to the game then both of them. To be honest w/ you if Jennings ends up being like Harris or Crawford, I'll take that. Last time I checked both of those guys are doing pretty well.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#129 » by Striders » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:32 am

Capital Edge wrote:Wow you are an f'ing idiot and your making all Knicks fan look stupid. How is he not a true PG and a bad defender??? Any player who is on a Scott SKiles coached team knows that if you can't play D, you will be on the bench. This has what got Mo Williams run out of town. And for God Sakes, he's a f***** rookie. Looks like Donnie was wrong after all those work outs, he should be ashamed of himself.


Capital Edge wrote:Wow you are an f'ing idiot and your making all Knicks fan look stupid.


Capital Edge wrote:and your making all Knicks fan look stupid.


Capital Edge wrote:your.


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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#130 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:34 am

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Capital Edge wrote:Wow you are an f'ing idiot and your making all Knicks fan look stupid. How is he not a true PG and a bad defender??? Any player who is on a Scott SKiles coached team knows that if you can't play D, you will be on the bench. This has what got Mo Williams run out of town. And for God Sakes, he's a f***** rookie. Looks like Donnie was wrong after all those work outs, he should be ashamed of himself.

First off, calm down. You are acting like a child. You would think I was talking about your girlfriend instead of a basketball player.

Secondly, Brandon Jennings is not a true PG because he looks for his shot first and often, and he isn't even a good shooter. On top of that, he gets by on his passing ability moreso than his ability to actually read a defense and react accordingly.

Thirdly, I don't care who his coach is, he is not a good defender. The only point you made is that he may be a better defender than Mo Williams.

I'll ask you as well, what makes Jennings different from Devin Harris or Jamal Crawford?

First off, your comments about Jennings sound like their coming from a foreign child who doesn't know how to play basketball so you can calm the f*** down, ok. :D

Second, he is a true PG, he isn't a good shooter but HE IS A ROOKIE, AN UNDERSIZED ROOKIE.

Third, like I said if he wasn't a good defender, he would be on the bench. You need to worry bout your teams defense.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#131 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:35 am

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GONYK wrote:In your opinion though, what separates Jennings from Harris or Crawford? I'm interested.

Jennings is much quicker, better ball handling skills, better passer and brings more talent to the game then both of them. To be honest w/ you if Jennings ends up being like Harris or Crawford, I'll take that. Last time I checked both of those guys are doing pretty well.

Devin Harris plays for the 12 win Nets and Crawford bounced around the league before landing with the Hawks who don't want to pay him. Neither of them are superstars, only one of them is a one-time all-star, and neither of them are considered the type of talent that could lead a winning team.

Also, what has Jennings done to prove he is more talented than either of them? Shoot 37%
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#132 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:40 am

Capital Edge wrote:First off, your comments about Jennings sound like their coming from a foreign child who doesn't know how to play basketball so you can calm the f*** down, ok. :D

Second, he is a true PG, he isn't a good shooter but HE IS A ROOKIE, AN UNDERSIZED ROOKIE.

Third, like I said if he wasn't a good defender, he would be on the bench. You need to worry bout your teams defense.

I am making points. You are making insults.

I am getting the feeling you don't know what a true PG is. Here are true PG's: Nash, Paul, Deron, Billups, Kidd. Jennings does not play like any of them. Not even close.

Your only basis for saying Jennings plays defense is because Skiles is your coach. That is like me saying Duhon must be a great PG, because D'Antoni relies on his PG's so heavily, and if Duhon wasn't good, he'd be on the bench. See? That doesn't make something a fact either.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#133 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:41 am

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GONYK wrote:In your opinion though, what separates Jennings from Harris or Crawford? I'm interested.

Jennings is much quicker, better ball handling skills, better passer and brings more talent to the game then both of them. To be honest w/ you if Jennings ends up being like Harris or Crawford, I'll take that. Last time I checked both of those guys are doing pretty well.

Devin Harris plays for the 12 win Nets and Crawford bounced around the league before landing with the Hawks who don't want to pay him. Neither of them are superstars, only one of them is a one-time all-star, and neither of them are considered the type of talent that could lead a winning team.

Also, what has Jennings done to prove he is more talented than either of them? Shoot 37%

SO I see, its is Devin Harris' fault that the Nets won 12 games even though he had a break out year in 08-09 season. Hawks don't want to pay him b/c the CBA expires after this year you dimwit. You know a player doesn't have to be the best shooter in the world to help a team win especially one that's a rookie.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#134 » by Striders » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:45 am

I'm looking at the General board's thread on Jennings too.

Bucks fans on here seem to be really defensive when it comes to Jennings.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#135 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:46 am

GONYK wrote:
Capital Edge wrote:First off, your comments about Jennings sound like their coming from a foreign child who doesn't know how to play basketball so you can calm the f*** down, ok. :D

Second, he is a true PG, he isn't a good shooter but HE IS A ROOKIE, AN UNDERSIZED ROOKIE.

Third, like I said if he wasn't a good defender, he would be on the bench. You need to worry bout your teams defense.

I am making points. You are making insults.

I am getting the feeling you don't know what a true PG is. Here are true PG's: Nash, Paul, Deron, Billups, Kidd. Jennings does not play like any of them. Not even close.

Your only basis for saying Jennings plays defense is because Skiles is your coach. That is like me saying Duhon must be a great PG, because D'Antoni relies on his PG's so heavily, and if Duhon wasn't good, he'd be on the bench. See? That doesn't make something a fact either.

Ok, let me ask you this......What is your basis for saying Jennings can't play defense wise guy?

I mentioned this many times and I can see your tight ass Knicks hat is cutting the circulation in your brain but Jennings is a rookie. He's not gonna be as good as Nash and Paul.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#136 » by Striders » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:47 am

Capital Edge wrote:I mentioned this many times and I can see your tight ass Knicks hat is cutting the circulation in your brain but Jennings is a rookie. He's not gonna be as good as Nash and Paul.


Sounds like a far cry from, "Walsh should be ashamed of himself", eh, champ? :D
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#137 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:51 am

Capital Edge wrote:Ok, let me ask you this......What is your basis for saying Jennings can't play defense wise guy?

I mentioned this many times and I can see your tight ass Knicks hat is cutting the circulation in your brain but Jennings is a rookie. He's not gonna be as good as Nash and Paul.

He's weak and doesn't play his rotations right. What is your basis for saying he can, other than Skiles being his coach?

Another lame insult, that's nice. Jennings isn't ever going to be as good of a PG as Paul and Nash because he does not have PG mentality or recognition. Same way Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook won't ever be as good of a PG as those 2 either. Doesn't mean they are bad players. Just means they aren't true PG's.

And Rose and Westbrook are better than Jennings.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#138 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:14 am

GONYK wrote:
Capital Edge wrote:Ok, let me ask you this......What is your basis for saying Jennings can't play defense wise guy?

I mentioned this many times and I can see your tight ass Knicks hat is cutting the circulation in your brain but Jennings is a rookie. He's not gonna be as good as Nash and Paul.

He's weak and doesn't play his rotations right. What is your basis for saying he can, other than Skiles being his coach?

Another lame insult, that's nice. Jennings isn't ever going to be as good of a PG as Paul and Nash because he does not have PG mentality or recognition. Same way Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook won't ever be as good of a PG as those 2 either. Doesn't mean they are bad players. Just means they aren't true PG's.

And Rose and Westbrook are better than Jennings.

You don't know that and I agree that Rose and Westbrook are better for NOW, but saying Westbrook isn't a true PG, ugh.

As far as defense goes he is very physical and always stays on the ball, usually does a good job of not letting defenders passing him b/c of his quickness, reacts quickly to passing lanes.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#139 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:47 am

Capital Edge wrote:You don't know that and I agree that Rose and Westbrook are better for NOW, but saying Westbrook isn't a true PG, ugh.

As far as defense goes he is very physical and always stays on the ball, usually does a good job of not letting defenders passing him b/c of his quickness, reacts quickly to passing lanes.

If you think Westbrook is a true PG, that proves you have no idea what one is. Westbrook is barely and average passer, and has limited vision.

You probably think Jameer Nelson is a true PG too.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#140 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:21 am

GONYK wrote:
Capital Edge wrote:You don't know that and I agree that Rose and Westbrook are better for NOW, but saying Westbrook isn't a true PG, ugh.

As far as defense goes he is very physical and always stays on the ball, usually does a good job of not letting defenders passing him b/c of his quickness, reacts quickly to passing lanes.

If you think Westbrook is a true PG, that proves you have no idea what one is. Westbrook is barely and average passer, and has limited vision.

You probably think Jameer Nelson is a true PG too.

Russel Westbrook, Rose, Jennings>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jameer Nelson. Westbrook and Nelson are not in the same category, Good Lord you are an a** hole. Wtf are you bringing Nelson up for. I guess you have never seen Westbrook play before. Oh btw that's more than some of the players you listed as "true PG" such as Chuncey Billups.

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