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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#141 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:26 am

Capital Edge wrote:Russel Westbrook, Rose, Jennings>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jameer Nelson. Westbrook and Nelson are not in the same category, Good Lord you are an a** hole. Wtf are you bringing Nelson up for. I guess you have never seen Westbrook play before.

I brought up Nelson because he is another player people think is a good PG when he is in fact a terrible one. You are calling Russell Westbrook a true PG and are questioning whether I have seen him play before?

Are you serious?

Westbrook is a very good player, but he is not a good PG. Derrick Rose might be the best playmaking SG in the East, but he is not a PG. Jennings could go on to be a good player, but he will never be a PG in the vein of Nash or CP3. He just doesn't have the mentality or the vision.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#142 » by ComboGuardCity » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:26 am

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Capital Edge wrote:You don't know that and I agree that Rose and Westbrook are better for NOW, but saying Westbrook isn't a true PG, ugh.

As far as defense goes he is very physical and always stays on the ball, usually does a good job of not letting defenders passing him b/c of his quickness, reacts quickly to passing lanes.

If you think Westbrook is a true PG, that proves you have no idea what one is. Westbrook is barely and average passer, and has limited vision.

You probably think Jameer Nelson is a true PG too.

Russel Westbrook, Rose, Jennings>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jameer Nelson. Westbrook and Nelson are not in the same category, Good Lord you are an a** hole. Wtf are you bringing Nelson up for. I guess you have never seen Westbrook play before.

Westbrook is not a true PG. I agree with GONYK on that one.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#143 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:30 am

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Capital Edge wrote:Russel Westbrook, Rose, Jennings>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jameer Nelson. Westbrook and Nelson are not in the same category, Good Lord you are an a** hole. Wtf are you bringing Nelson up for. I guess you have never seen Westbrook play before.

I brought up Nelson because he is another player people think is a good PG when he is in fact a terrible one. You are calling Russell Westbrook a true PG and are questioning whether I have seen him play before?

Are you serious?

Westbrook is a very good player, but he is not a good PG. Derrick Rose might be the best playmaking SG in the East, but he is not a PG. Jennings could go on to be a good player, but he will never be a PG in the vein of Nash or CP3. He just doesn't have the mentality or the vision.

Well, I can see arguing w/ you on this matter is like beating a dead horse, so I'm done. Good luck in the lottery next year and year 9 0f your 18 year rebuilding plan.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#144 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:32 am

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Capital Edge wrote:Russel Westbrook, Rose, Jennings>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jameer Nelson. Westbrook and Nelson are not in the same category, Good Lord you are an a** hole. Wtf are you bringing Nelson up for. I guess you have never seen Westbrook play before.

I brought up Nelson because he is another player people think is a good PG when he is in fact a terrible one. You are calling Russell Westbrook a true PG and are questioning whether I have seen him play before?

Are you serious?

Westbrook is a very good player, but he is not a good PG. Derrick Rose might be the best playmaking SG in the East, but he is not a PG. Jennings could go on to be a good player, but he will never be a PG in the vein of Nash or CP3. He just doesn't have the mentality or the vision.

Well, I can see arguing w/ you on this matter is like beating a dead horse, so I'm done. Good luck in the lottery next year and year 9 0f your 18 year rebuilding plan.

LOL at you sigging something that is absolutely true. Good luck rubbing one out to Jennings.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#145 » by ComboGuardCity » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:34 am

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Capital Edge wrote:Russel Westbrook, Rose, Jennings>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jameer Nelson. Westbrook and Nelson are not in the same category, Good Lord you are an a** hole. Wtf are you bringing Nelson up for. I guess you have never seen Westbrook play before.

I brought up Nelson because he is another player people think is a good PG when he is in fact a terrible one. You are calling Russell Westbrook a true PG and are questioning whether I have seen him play before?

Are you serious?

Westbrook is a very good player, but he is not a good PG. Derrick Rose might be the best playmaking SG in the East, but he is not a PG. Jennings could go on to be a good player, but he will never be a PG in the vein of Nash or CP3. He just doesn't have the mentality or the vision.

Well, I can see arguing w/ you on this matter is like beating a dead horse, so I'm done. Good luck in the lottery next year and year 9 0f your 18 year rebuilding plan.

Your last statement cemented your platform. Just because Westbrook can bring the ball up the court, does not make him a true point guard. Taking a shot at the team to end your argument is just plain sad :lol:
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#146 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:35 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:Your last statement cemented your platform. Just because Westbrook can bring the ball up the court, does not make him a true point guard. Taking a shot at the team to end your argument is just plain sad :lol:

I think this is the first time we have ever agreed on anything
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#147 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:37 am

GONYK wrote:
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I brought up Nelson because he is another player people think is a good PG when he is in fact a terrible one. You are calling Russell Westbrook a true PG and are questioning whether I have seen him play before?

Are you serious?

Well, I can see arguing w/ you on this matter is like beating a dead horse, so I'm done. Good luck in the lottery next year and year 9 0f your 18 year rebuilding plan.

LOL at you sigging something that is absolutely true. Good luck rubbing one out to Jennings.

:lol: ....I know and I think that's absolutely hilarious.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#148 » by ReddWing » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:38 am

So now we are going to doom Brandon Jennings as being basically a failure after only his rookie year? A 20 year old kid playing his first real minutes in a real league that has shown many flashes of being a star and is already a team leader? Wow is all I can say to that. He works hard and has a ton of potential. But go on with trying to find reasons to hate and make yourselves feel better about a bust pick. Lets see him play a season with offensive weapons at his side, experience, off season work, and more things to prove the haters wrong.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#149 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:40 am

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Are you serious?

Westbrook is a very good player, but he is not a good PG. Derrick Rose might be the best playmaking SG in the East, but he is not a PG. Jennings could go on to be a good player, but he will never be a PG in the vein of Nash or CP3. He just doesn't have the mentality or the vision.

Well, I can see arguing w/ you on this matter is like beating a dead horse, so I'm done. Good luck in the lottery next year and year 9 0f your 18 year rebuilding plan.

Your last statement cemented your platform. Just because Westbrook can bring the ball up the court, does not make him a true point guard. Taking a shot at the team to end your argument is just plain sad :lol:[/quote]
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#150 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:43 am

ReddWing wrote:So now we are going to doom Brandon Jennings as being basically a failure after only his rookie year? A 20 year old kid playing his first real minutes in a real league that has shown many flashes of being a star and is already a team leader? Wow is all I can say to that. He works hard and has a ton of potential. But go on with trying to find reasons to hate and make yourselves feel better about a bust pick. Lets see him play a season with offensive weapons at his side, experience, off season work, and more things to prove the haters wrong.

Did anybody call him a failure? All I said was that he is not a true PG, therefore was not the right pick for this team.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#151 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:44 am

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GONYK wrote:
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I brought up Nelson because he is another player people think is a good PG when he is in fact a terrible one. You are calling Russell Westbrook a true PG and are questioning whether I have seen him play before?

Are you serious?

Well, I can see arguing w/ you on this matter is like beating a dead horse, so I'm done. Good luck in the lottery next year and year 9 0f your 18 year rebuilding plan.

LOL at you sigging something that is absolutely true. Good luck rubbing one out to Jennings.

:lol: ....I know and I think that's absolutely hilarious.

Tell me what your definition of a true PG is
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#152 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:45 am

ReddWing wrote:So now we are going to doom Brandon Jennings as being basically a failure after only his rookie year? A 20 year old kid playing his first real minutes in a real league that has shown many flashes of being a star and is already a team leader? Wow is all I can say to that. He works hard and has a ton of potential. But go on with trying to find reasons to hate and make yourselves feel better about a bust pick. Lets see him play a season with offensive weapons at his side, experience, off season work, and more things to prove the haters wrong.

THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK YOU! Could not have said it better myself. I am not guaranteeing anything but the potential is their and he has the skills that make him a true PG. He needs to get stronger and work on his outside shot but can we wait a little longer then one year. This clown (GoNYK)would rather have Felton over Jennings after what see saw in year one.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#153 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:47 am

Capital Edge wrote:
ReddWing wrote:So now we are going to doom Brandon Jennings as being basically a failure after only his rookie year? A 20 year old kid playing his first real minutes in a real league that has shown many flashes of being a star and is already a team leader? Wow is all I can say to that. He works hard and has a ton of potential. But go on with trying to find reasons to hate and make yourselves feel better about a bust pick. Lets see him play a season with offensive weapons at his side, experience, off season work, and more things to prove the haters wrong.

THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK YOU! Could not have said it better myself. I am not guaranteeing anything but the potential is their and he has the skills that make him a true PG. He needs to get stronger and work on his outside shot but can we wait a little longer then one year. This clown (GoNYK)would rather have Felton over Jennings after what see saw in year one.

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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#154 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:51 am

GONYK wrote:
ReddWing wrote:So now we are going to doom Brandon Jennings as being basically a failure after only his rookie year? A 20 year old kid playing his first real minutes in a real league that has shown many flashes of being a star and is already a team leader? Wow is all I can say to that. He works hard and has a ton of potential. But go on with trying to find reasons to hate and make yourselves feel better about a bust pick. Lets see him play a season with offensive weapons at his side, experience, off season work, and more things to prove the haters wrong.

Did anybody call him a failure? All I said was that he is not a true PG, therefore was not the right pick for this team.

YOU DIDN'T NEED A **** TRUE PG, YOU JUST NEED A **** PG PERIOD BECAUSE ALL YOU HAD WAS CHRIS DUHON! LORD HAVE MERCY, MY GOODNESS, I'M ABOUT TO PUNCH A **** WALL ALL OVER AN ARGUMENT I'M HAVING WITH A KNICKS FAN B/C HE IS JEALOUS AND MAD HIS TEAM PASSED ON JENNINGS. Steph Curry is a combo guard, would you have passed on him because he is not a "true PG?"
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#155 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:56 am

GONYK wrote:
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ReddWing wrote:So now we are going to doom Brandon Jennings as being basically a failure after only his rookie year? A 20 year old kid playing his first real minutes in a real league that has shown many flashes of being a star and is already a team leader? Wow is all I can say to that. He works hard and has a ton of potential. But go on with trying to find reasons to hate and make yourselves feel better about a bust pick. Lets see him play a season with offensive weapons at his side, experience, off season work, and more things to prove the haters wrong.

THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK YOU! Could not have said it better myself. I am not guaranteeing anything but the potential is their and he has the skills that make him a true PG. He needs to get stronger and work on his outside shot but can we wait a little longer then one year. This clown (GoNYK)would rather have Felton over Jennings after what see saw in year one.

Tell me what your definition of a true PG is

Well atleast someone who averages 7 to 10 assists a game and is always pass first. Mo WIlliams, Raymond Felton, Chuncey Billups aren't one. Rajon Rondo, Nash, Kidd, etc. fit the category.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#156 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:57 am

Capital Edge wrote:Well atleast someone who averages 7 to 10 assists a game and is always pass first. Mo WIlliams, Raymond Felton, Chuncey Billups aren't one. Rajon Rondo, Nash, Kidd, etc. fit the category.

So you would describe Jennings, Westbrook, and Rose as pass first?
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Post#157 » by Capital Edge » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:00 am

GONYK wrote:
Capital Edge wrote:Well atleast someone who averages 7 to 10 assists a game and is always pass first. Mo WIlliams, Raymond Felton, Chuncey Billups aren't one. Rajon Rondo, Nash, Kidd, etc. fit the category.

So you would describe Jennings, Westbrook, and Rose as pass first?

Jennings and Westbrook, yes. I'm mixed about Rose.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#158 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:11 am

Capital Edge wrote:
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Capital Edge wrote:Well atleast someone who averages 7 to 10 assists a game and is always pass first. Mo WIlliams, Raymond Felton, Chuncey Billups aren't one. Rajon Rondo, Nash, Kidd, etc. fit the category.

So you would describe Jennings, Westbrook, and Rose as pass first?

Jennings and Westbrook, yes. I'm mixed about Rose.

I'll give you a pass on Jennings being a Bucks fan you will be biased. But Westbrook? Really? What about him is pass first? If he didn't have Durant, how many assists a game do you think he would have? Have you ever seen him run a pick and roll?

Westbrook attempted nearly 1,200 shots last season. Rose nearly 1400

Nash - 985
Billups - 962
Rondo - 904
Kidd - 671

Notice a difference?

On top of that, there is more than just averaging assists. Marbury averaged 8 APG for his career, but nobody here would call him a true PG. Players like Rose, Westbrook, and IMO Jennings often use their teammates as bailouts on defended scoring attempts instead of targets of executed plays.

That is what prevents them from being a true PG. They can still be good players, but they will be good combo guards.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#159 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:12 am

Capital Edge wrote:YOU DIDN'T NEED A **** TRUE PG, YOU JUST NEED A **** PG PERIOD BECAUSE ALL YOU HAD WAS CHRIS DUHON! LORD HAVE MERCY, MY GOODNESS, I'M ABOUT TO PUNCH A **** WALL ALL OVER AN ARGUMENT I'M HAVING WITH A KNICKS FAN B/C HE IS JEALOUS AND MAD HIS TEAM PASSED ON JENNINGS. Steph Curry is a combo guard, would you have passed on him because he is not a "true PG?"

If that is your argument (which I agree with to an extent) then we would have been better off taking Collison, Lawson, or Holiday before Jennings.
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Re: Do you still think Jennings would be good in NYC 

Post#160 » by ComboGuardCity » Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:17 am

Did you know that all Caps makes your argument more valid?

But Seriously, Jennings is a nice PG and I think he is going to be a perennial all star. However, that does not make him a true point guard. I think he can develop facilitating skills, but he is still more of a scoring PG. Seeing as you're a Bucks fan, I don't know how you can not see that.

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